Gather suggestion on our new line products

how much of the power on the wall do you like? I mean the real power output not name

  • 200w led grow light

  • 300w led grow light

  • 400w led grow light

  • 600w led grow light

  • 800w led grow light

  • 1000w led grow light

  • 1200w led grow light

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Geyapex Technology

Geyapex Technology

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hello everyone, now we're developing our new line products, and we need to do some market research and gather suggestion to confirm the final design, so it would be appreciated if you would like to share any idea, or what kind of led grow lights you're looking for? what brand of chips you prefer? product size? long bar or panel? power consumption? around 400w or 600w or 1000w? veg/bloom switchable or just full spectrum? optics angle? lighting coverage? any idea is welcome, let's just discuss...or you can email us to [email protected] (:
 
cool2burn

cool2burn

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i would like to see more liquid cooled light bars Vertical farming is growing more popular and with prices coming down quantity and quality will be important. I need 8ft long double sided LED bars. There is a similar unit with Zip Farms but it is 60k for 30 lights. Also while power is important i think haveing a adjustable spectrum with programmable settings is really important.
 
BM9AGS

BM9AGS

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I would like to see you replace the cree CXA 2540 with a more efficient white cob. The CXA 2540 shows 83 lumens per watt which is less efficient than than most lights. The current CXB 3590 is producing about 160 lumens per watt and is a very effective led at producing.

You don't need 5000k cobs you need 3000k because your monos have blue. With simple white and blue you can veg plants perfectly. You need the 3000k cobs and red and white monos for flower.

Post the umol/J of each led you're using and you'll see that it's a sub par light. Maybe compared to mars and shitty Chinese panels you're doing good but here on this forum your lights are sub par. I'm guessing based on similar lights your monos are about 1.6umol/j and cree CXAs are 1.3umol/j.

My 800w 16 CXB 3590 ran at 50w per cob 2.4umol/J ~160 lumens per watt light covers a 5x5 with higher PPFD and a more even foot print much better than your "record breaking 1200w light".

And last....if you switched out your monos with the latest osram SSL 120 leds and used the new veros then you'd have the worlds best PPFD and efficiency of any manufactured grow light on earth.
 
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BM9AGS

BM9AGS

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Thank you by the way for asking the forum. Only a couple other companies here ask for our educated opinions. They're all amazing companies and doing quite well. Timber, tasty, NGL, PLC. So you'll be great for this community. Just upgrade your cobs! :)
 
Geyapex Technology

Geyapex Technology

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BM9AGS said:
I would like to see you replace the cree CXA 2540 with a more efficient white cob. The CXA 2540 shows 83 lumens per watt which is less efficient than than most lights. The current CXB 3590 is producing about 160 lumens per watt and is a very effective led at producing.

You don't need 5000k cobs you need 3000k because your monos have blue. With simple white and blue you can veg plants perfectly.

Post the umol/J of each led you're using and you'll see that it's a sub par light. Maybe compared to mars and shitty Chinese panels you're doing good but here on this forum your lights are sub par. I'm guessing based on similar lights your monos are about 1.6umol/j and cree CXAs are 1.3umol/j.

My 800w 16 CXB 3590 ran at 50w per cob 2.4umol/J ~160 lumens per watt light covers a 5x5 with higher PPFD and a more even foot print much better than your "record breaking 1200w light".
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Thanks for your suggestion, the reason we don't use 3590 is it's really expensive and we need bigger heat sinks to solve the heat dissipation, also we won't drive them at 50w per cob as it's a little waste, as it totally can be drived at 75w at least, it's good for DIY but not good for resell, we ever tested the PPFD of single cxa2540, cxb 3070 and cxb 3590, all was drived at 50w, but the result didn't show much difference, around 15%, the only big difference is price. the money for one cxb 3590 can buy 4pcs cxa 2540, even if you drive one cxb 3590 at 80w, it's still less than 4pcs of 50w 2540, we will upgrad to cxb 3070 in next genernation.

The monos of our lights are designed to work for flowering stage, 5000k is for veg, and we also have super bloom and super veg spectrum monos for people to choose.

Sorry we don't know how to test the umol/J, but we use Apogee to test PPFD at 4'x4' from different height (:
 
Geyapex Technology

Geyapex Technology

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BM9AGS said:
Thank you by the way for asking the forum. Only a couple other companies here ask for our educated opinions. They're all amazing companies and doing quite well. Timber, tasty, NGL, PLC. So you'll be great for this community. Just upgrade your cobs! :)
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Thanks we have much to learn...(:
 
Moflow

Moflow

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BM9AGS said:
I would like to see you replace the cree CXA 2540 with a more efficient white cob. The CXA 2540 shows 83 lumens per watt which is less efficient than than most lights. The current CXB 3590 is producing about 160 lumens per watt and is a very effective led at producing.

You don't need 5000k cobs you need 3000k because your monos have blue. With simple white and blue you can veg plants perfectly. You need the 3000k cobs and red and white monos for flower.

Post the umol/J of each led you're using and you'll see that it's a sub par light. Maybe compared to mars and shitty Chinese panels you're doing good but here on this forum your lights are sub par. I'm guessing based on similar lights your monos are about 1.6umol/j and cree CXAs are 1.3umol/j.

My 800w 16 CXB 3590 ran at 50w per cob 2.4umol/J ~160 lumens per watt light covers a 5x5 with higher PPFD and a more even foot print much better than your "record breaking 1200w light".

And last....if you switched out your monos with the latest osram SSL 120 leds and used the new veros then you'd have the worlds best PPFD and efficiency of any manufactured grow light on earth.
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Don't hold back... lol
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Geyapex Technology

Geyapex Technology

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Schalalala said:
Then dont try to sell horticulture lights!!! Would you buy a car from someone who does not know how to measure speed?
That is ridiculous!
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Really sorry about that, but is PPFD value or PAR value not enough to show the performance, would you like to tell us how to calculate the parameter if you know? we don't test lumen output, we paid more attention to PPFD and spectrum, and if one led grow light can work well for plants and help people gain good harvest, it shouldn't be a good product ? (:
 
licoricetree

licoricetree

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Well all just want a product out that actually performes equal or close to the diy build here in the forums. The led market is to jaded to have yet another light the says one thing but significantly unperformes and cost double the amount as a diy build. It has been the bane of the led market and created the myth of led not being able to achieve yield and quality as hps.
 
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Shugglet

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licoricetree said:
Well all just want a product out that actually performes equal or close to the diy build here in the forums. The led market is to jaded to have yet another light the says one thing but significantly unperformes and cost double the amount as a diy build. It has been the bane of the led market and created the myth of led not being able to achieve yield and quality as hps.
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The market jaded itself because they wanted to believe things too good to be true. (Omg, I can get this 1000w led on ebay for under $200?! Hell yeah!)

It'd also help if most led sellers didn't use "comparative" wattages and just used actual wattage.
 
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