CashCrops
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If you go to the John R farmers market they do once a month (Where I paid a 100 for the frost boss) he also had finished product and twas nice to say the least!
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Flaming Pie
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Mr.Head
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Look into optic LED's or DIY yourself. It's stupid easy brother. if I can do it anyone can. Get some wago connectors and some molex connectors for some vero 29's and you're set bro. No soldering required at all.Also, having a tent empty is not sitting well with me. One bit. So I'm gonna sell the 1000 watts hps digital and try my hand at some LEDs in that tent. Never rocked the Led's and really have no idea what I'm doing. Any brand suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Need the same footprint I had with my 2 thowy's if possible.
edit: I'm thinking apache or area 51 so far?
Lots of smart folks in the LED section that can help you with the parts.
st0wandgrow
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What's the cost, and work involved in replacing a 1000 watt HID? Keep in mind that Im a complete idiot when it comes to electronics
Mr.Head
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Not sure, I didn't go that big. I have a 300 watt bar that's probably comparable to a 600 watt HPS ( hopefully at least we'll see when I flower) but it cost me about $400 USD. These things run so ridiculously cool that there's going to be substantial power savings from all the fans I was able to cut. My whole space is cooled by one exhaust/carbon filter and 2 desk clip fans.
You can go a lot cheaper then I did though, it's all about sourcing your parts. The LED Drivers are the most expensive part of the builds and I got one for each COB which isn't necessary but for redundancy sake I felt better doing it that way. If something fails and I need parts I have to order them from Cali. so I needed my light to work if 1 part failed so I spent probably 50% more then I had to.
Vero 29's are about $40 a unit dirt cheap for the light they put out. Everything I have in there now is nice and tight nodes. Except for my stretchy Lee Roy.
I'm still a dummy when it comes to electronics man. Those guys in the LED threads have shit all figured out for you. You're just putting it together like Lego's.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-leds-how-to-power-them.801554/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/realstyles-6th-diy-cxa-3590-5000k-db-bin.864284/page-9#post-11883666
realstyles does it big with the LED's. and Supra is the resident guru, he's got charts for all the different bins of LED's and all the Amperage:lumen output ratios.
Supra's got all the research done so it's just a bit of really simple math to figure out. He's got a few more threads with a lot of the basics outlined.
I'm very far from an expert
I learned enough to wire it up threw it together and it's been working great so I haven't proceeded with further knowledge
You can go a lot cheaper then I did though, it's all about sourcing your parts. The LED Drivers are the most expensive part of the builds and I got one for each COB which isn't necessary but for redundancy sake I felt better doing it that way. If something fails and I need parts I have to order them from Cali. so I needed my light to work if 1 part failed so I spent probably 50% more then I had to.
Vero 29's are about $40 a unit dirt cheap for the light they put out. Everything I have in there now is nice and tight nodes. Except for my stretchy Lee Roy.
I'm still a dummy when it comes to electronics man. Those guys in the LED threads have shit all figured out for you. You're just putting it together like Lego's.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-leds-how-to-power-them.801554/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/realstyles-6th-diy-cxa-3590-5000k-db-bin.864284/page-9#post-11883666
realstyles does it big with the LED's. and Supra is the resident guru, he's got charts for all the different bins of LED's and all the Amperage:lumen output ratios.
Supra's got all the research done so it's just a bit of really simple math to figure out. He's got a few more threads with a lot of the basics outlined.
I'm very far from an expert
I learned enough to wire it up threw it together and it's been working great so I haven't proceeded with further knowledge 
Bob Zmuda
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Sounds good but I'm electrically challenged and frankly just don't have the time. I need something Premade and readily available. Some of the brands I've looked at have waiting lists and estimated build times etc. I just don't have the time for that. I know a few people that rock advanced led and have good results. They just released a cree version for 549 that they say replaces a 1000 watt. Might grab 2 of them and see what's good. Price is a bit steep but I'm willing to bet they pay for themselves in the long run.
King Arthur
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Anyone try the Foo Fighter yet? Grape Stomper Aloha White Widow sounds like a crazy ass cross and then hitting that to the cookies. NGR is having a 22% off sale right now, just thinking right now.
kangosna745
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Some greatful puff a buddy of mine is about to chop, another happy referral to the GGG crewkangosna745
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Idk why it doubled both pics lol but o well
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Mr.Head
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I'd recommend the new area 51 lights over that. You could get 7 of their new 4k COB's for $1137.
All that blurple shit is outdated. If you wait another 6 months those Advanced LED's will be $150 a piece, or they won't have a website anymore. I don't know how they are the only one with blurple panels not dropping the prices. You can buy these blurple panels right from China instead of getting them from re-sellers, you can save substantially.
Advanced LED's are very very very overpriced for what they are. There is no way 800watts of Cree XML's are worth 2 grand. 2 grand in the new are 51 LED's will blow that shit away. Be like CFL's compared to HPS.
Last time I looked at Area51LED's they didn't have a price for the new units, the price is up on their site now but there's quite a wait time. Up to you man, but I would really advise against any blue/purple panel.
The tech honestly never should have been embraced like it was, people grew good buds sure but they would have done better with an HPS. Most the guys in the LED threads have used the blurple panels before and say the cobs just blow them away. Realstyles smashed his marshydro unit up with a hammer because of it
King Arthur
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I agree that advanced is highly expensive, however that said my panels have been running for over 2 years. Only had one panel have an issue out of 7. I hear you on the red and blue as well but until you have one of their units in your arsenal and give it a shot I wouldn't knock it at all.I'd recommend the new area 51 lights over that. You could get 7 of their new 4k COB's for $1137.
All that blurple shit is outdated. If you wait another 6 months those Advanced LED's will be $150 a piece, or they won't have a website anymore. I don't know how they are the only one with blurple panels not dropping the prices. You can buy these blurple panels right from China instead of getting them from re-sellers, you can save substantially.
Advanced LED's are very very very overpriced for what they are. There is no way 800watts of Cree XML's are worth 2 grand. 2 grand in the new are 51 LED's will blow that shit away. Be like CFL's compared to HPS.
Last time I looked at Area51LED's they didn't have a price for the new units, the price is up on their site now but there's quite a wait time. Up to you man, but I would really advise against any blue/purple panel.
The tech honestly never should have been embraced like it was, people grew good buds sure but they would have done better with an HPS. Most the guys in the LED threads have used the blurple panels before and say the cobs just blow them away. Realstyles smashed his marshydro unit up with a hammer because of it
Frostiest gals I have ever had came from advanced panels, also the most solid. The xt-e versions have more white in them and are a little brighter but even the old ass diamond series does me right.
Bob Zmuda
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Gah! This is why I've never delved into led. Grab used hood, ballast and a new bulb-under 150 bucks. Hang light, grow dank.I'd recommend the new area 51 lights over that. You could get 7 of their new 4k COB's for $1137.
All that blurple shit is outdated. If you wait another 6 months those Advanced LED's will be $150 a piece, or they won't have a website anymore. I don't know how they are the only one with blurple panels not dropping the prices. You can buy these blurple panels right from China instead of getting them from re-sellers, you can save substantially.
Advanced LED's are very very very overpriced for what they are. There is no way 800watts of Cree XML's are worth 2 grand. 2 grand in the new are 51 LED's will blow that shit away. Be like CFL's compared to HPS.
Last time I looked at Area51LED's they didn't have a price for the new units, the price is up on their site now but there's quite a wait time. Up to you man, but I would really advise against any blue/purple panel.
The tech honestly never should have been embraced like it was, people grew good buds sure but they would have done better with an HPS. Most the guys in the LED threads have used the blurple panels before and say the cobs just blow them away. Realstyles smashed his marshydro unit up with a hammer because of it
So if I'm correct all the "good" brands have long long wait times?
Shit, since it's about to cool down temps outdoors maybe I'll grab 2 magnetic ballasts (never thought I'd say that. Fuck what to do what to do).
In other news I think I'll pop some ad hoc beans to make me feel better
King Arthur
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My advice is to stick to what you know and love, with that gorilla tent you could have that thing slappin hard with some LEDs as they perform best in a sea of green with some trellising.
The thing I think about most is, not having to replace bulb, reduced heat, more light can be plugged in as no ballast is needed and they still producing buds 2 years in.
My situation isn't like everyone elses though, I have odd walls, no ac, and no electrical panel from an electrician. It is all plug and play and that is how I like to stay
. Just waiting for A51 to catch up on all their back orders so I can get me one of them to try.
Bob Zmuda
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I have no problem spending good money (I mean I'm no beemo or anything lol) on good lights. I can easily recover the costs in 1 harvest. But I need them shits yesterday. Can't be waiting around on some back order boolshit.My advice is to stick to what you know and love, with that gorilla tent you could have that thing slappin hard with some LEDs as they perform best in a sea of green with some trellising.
The thing I think about most is, not having to replace bulb, reduced heat, more light can be plugged in as no ballast is needed and they still producing buds 2 years in.
My situation isn't like everyone elses though, I have odd walls, no ac, and no electrical panel from an electrician. It is all plug and play and that is how I like to stay
Laughable man! Ha!
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genuity
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I'd really love to see you run one,I trust @Greengenes707 words,and it's the only plug and play I would spend money on..The apache tech led's look pretty nice to me. And they're available!
I just want to see a non LED grower,do a full run.
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st0wandgrow
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Have you priced those out Bob? I have 3 1000 watt HID's on light rails, so I'm thinking I would need 6 panels totaling equivalent wattage to cover my footprint to make it work. That's not even factoring in the veg room.The apache tech led's look pretty nice to me. And they're available!
Fuck, my ole lady will bitch slap me if I go dropping a ton of coin on new lights. Always something.
Bob Zmuda
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Yes. Theyre fucking expensive!Have you priced those out Bob? I have 3 1000 watt HID's on light rails, so I'm thinking I would need 6 panels totaling equivalent wattage to cover my footprint to make it work. That's not even factoring in the veg room.
Fuck, my ole lady will bitch slap me if I go dropping a ton of coin on new lights. Always something.
I could go get 2 used magnetic ballasts for 60 bucks down the street and call it a day.
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