From bag seed to reputable seedback, massive change?

How was the transition for you, from bag seed prone to hermie, to solid genetics? How large of difference has it made in your grow life? I imagine the difference is quite day/night.

Some of the most legendary cuts were bag seed prone to hermie.

Please share what exactly you mean by solid genetics. Do you mean a breeder who has worked a strain, or many of the new fads being hitting their signature male to any and every clone only that carries a following? Solid? I guess thats just a matter of opinion.

So I guess it boils down to what the genetics of your bag seed are, and how stable the genetics are regardless of hermit traits you could have some locked down genetics. Or if you comparing a selfed seed of a unstable polyhybrid to a well worked f4, f5, or f6 that has been selected and breed for specific traits, you should assume the obvious.

I really like sannie for stability. His seeds could be confused for clones on some of his strains, I just wish he worked with more my style of plant..

If you want to do your own pheno hunting hoping to find a mother or father dom plant than look at many modern day breeders should give you the variety to fit what your looking for.

To directly answer your question, I have had some great smoke from bag seed I have found in a bag of what I consider dank. Sometimes better than I would expect out of a cross of polyhybrid crosses.

one of my favorites in my garden is a bagseed,and is stable as fuck...

TheSnake said:

How was the transition for you, from bag seed prone to hermie, to solid genetics? How large of difference has it made in your grow life? I imagine the difference is quite day/night.

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really depends on the bagseeds.. i mean some people start with midgrades brick weed seeds.. and have shitty results.. and they make the switch to breeder seeds.. and its a huge change..

some find seeds in amazing nugs.. and use those.. and sometimes.. they are amazing and arent hermi prone.. sometimes they are great but hermi..

there are great genetics in some bagseeds.. and then some people can grow mexican bag seeds that look amazing also.. but with bud.. its all about personal preff.. and honestly. i dont care were the plant came from . bag seed or breeder.. as long as it doesnt hermi.. ill keep it.. and run it .

its really about. WHAT you want.. if u want real genetics. with a real name.. that can be used to breed later on and make your own strains.. buy some genetics. but research breeders.. before buying.. i say stick with the best.. and people who have stable lines.. alot of new breeders suck.. and its funny kuz u will see breeders advertising amazing genetics. but the pictures they are showing.. are pics of unhealthy over nuted plants.. and they expect to sell seeds over a company who actually grows there plants to perfection. and has pictures of amazing looking buds on there sites...

just becareful.. alot of scams out there.. i like DNA and MR Nice for Regs.. and Dinafem and R. Privada for Fems. there are obv alot more amazing breeders.. but with these companies.. i have not had a bad pack of beans.. i either found an AMAZING FEMALE.. or a few amazing females.. in the fems.. or in the regs.. if i didnt find an amazing female.. i found a great male that makes amazing offspring..

I first started on bag beans. It was from some purposely beaned plant. At the end of the day I had some eh plants that made it. Two schools of thought on this, cheaper to make the mistake on free beans, or start with good genetics and try not to make mistakes. Recently I had popped some bag beans from some great bud but all three were pre flowering female but once the switch happened, all the female plants had male pods popping out of the flower tops. Was crazy, but it was also a waste of time and resources. No risk no reward right?

Still have beans saved from imported cali bud from early 2000 s. Wouldn't mind getting around to those beans because there could be some gold in there but I've got solid genetics on deck I'd rather get around to.

kgp said:

Some of the most legendary cuts were bag seed prone to hermie.

Please share what exactly you mean by solid genetics. Do you mean a breeder who has worked a strain, or many of the new fads being hitting their signature male to any and every clone only that carries a following? Solid? I guess thats just a matter of opinion.

So I guess it boils down to what the genetics of your bag seed are, and how stable the genetics are regardless of hermit traits you could have some locked down genetics. Or if you comparing a selfed seed of a unstable polyhybrid to a well worked f4, f5, or f6 that has been selected and breed for specific traits, you should assume the obvious.

I really like sannie for stability. His seeds could be confused for clones on some of his strains, I just wish he worked with more my style of plant..

If you want to do your own pheno hunting hoping to find a mother or father dom plant than look at many modern day breeders should give you the variety to fit what your looking for.

To directly answer your question, I have had some great smoke from bag seed I have found in a bag of what I consider dank. Sometimes better than I would expect out of a cross of polyhybrid crosses.

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forgive my stupidity, but what exactly are bag seeds? Do you mean like random seeds you find in purchased bag of buds? I just never find any seed in a bag of buds... isnt is bad for the dealer to put seeds in the bag since they aint smokable??

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Usually the beans are in the buds but yes that is the terminology in this setting. usually it means a male got to it (outdoors) or an intersexed plant is left in the garden

Nothing worse than growing some gorgeous female plants only to open the grow room one day and find a nanner/nanners. It's the pits and that is always the risk you take with bag seeds. You will find that only 5% or so of people who grow bag seeds have a stable strain. Those that have found that are very lucky. The rest are just nanner pickers. Get fem seeds from a reputable breeder, much less worry involved.

Fems can intersex too (I've had it happened as have others), even in a "perfect environment". The best thing to do with all beans, regular or female is to keep a keen eye on new plants and not to stress them (over fertilize, temperature problems, and light leaks).

I went from elite clone onlys for YEARS to seed due to pests diseases from other gardens........

Happy with the cleanliness and bug free side of things...... But MAN I miss verified AAA cuts.,

That is so true Brek, pest are the worst. I took a clone for the first time but I trust the person and how they've handled their garden. Isolated it of course but I never want broad mites again. Ever!

I've grown some pretty decent plants from mexi brick weed on the side. Babied them and chopped them with milky trichs. They turned out to be a very nice mild smoke. Good for watching anything funny. Also caught 3 awesome catfish in a nice little muddy lake inlet.......then lost a pole to "The Leviathan" while taking bowl hits all night with a buddy. I'm thinking it was a monster snapping turtle.
We smoked off the last batch for a good 2 months doing various activities.
I found some seeds in an old associates ashtray and picked em out a couple years back. They turned out to be VERY fat/squat Indica plants. The stuff I grew from them was much better than what it came from. You could tell the original grower was chopping early to make a quick $.
I'm pretty sure they were from a hermied plant cause 6 out of 6 turned female (or my luck was superior but doubt it) Twas a nice week or so when they all started throwing pistils.
Good body stone on em.
As far as a difference goes? It's been pretty much breeder>bagseed as far as quality is concerned. Seedbanks have turned me on to various breeders and I've also tasted a whole lot of variety now. I "know" what I'm getting and what to expect. I can do my research on whatever I'm growing here with other people's grows.