Fragile's Flowers Rnd 2! New veg room RDWC from first clones.

fragileassassin

fragileassassin

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Airwalker16 said:
It's weird how similar our runs are. Mine had a hell of a time coming back out of flower too. Clones were taken only ten days into flower. No problem right? Wrong
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Yeah mine were right about the same took the second batch a little before 2 weeks after flip because that first batch didnt do shit lmao.
I didnt figure theyd be difficult because they hadnt started showing blooms yet, it was just long enough that I could tell which ones were males.

Most of them in there now have at least a few supercropped colas. Would like to avoid doing it where possible. Want to get my training on point so I dont need it.
 
Airwalker16

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fragileassassin said:
Yeah mine were right about the same took the second batch a little before 2 weeks after flip because that first batch didnt do shit lmao.
I didnt figure theyd be difficult because they hadnt started showing blooms yet, it was just long enough that I could tell which ones were males.

Most of them in there now have at least a few supercropped colas. Would like to avoid doing it where possible. Want to get my training on point so I dont need it.
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Supercropping is a good thing bro. You should try it. It just comes back stronger. If done in veg, it's more useful.
 
fragileassassin

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Airwalker16 said:
Supercropping is a good thing bro. You should try it. It just comes back stronger. If done in veg, it's more useful.
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Yes but it also slows things down which I'm trying to avoid. Which is why they're getting topped once and only lst.
If I need to I need to, but the point of most of what I'm doing is to not need to
 
Airwalker16

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fragileassassin said:
Yes but it also slows things down which I'm trying to avoid. Which is why they're getting topped once and only lst.
If I need to I need to, but the point of most of what I'm doing is to not need to
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I never see down whatever.it's turning itself towards the light and happy the next day.
 
fragileassassin

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couple pics for today from checking on them and tucking a few branches.
Finally got my fan and meter in today.
RH isnt normally that low, it just tanks when I open this tent that much.
Been trying to find cheap oscillating fans and I think this one is what im looking for, now i need 5 more LOL.
Also random root ball. Theyve made an impressive bounce back in the last week.

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2com

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Airwalker16 said:
Damn I'm jealous of your hyper fan. I've used rip offs that are still pretty damn quiet. But I bet a true hyper fan is soooooo quiet.
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@Airwalker16 I don't find the Hyper fans much quieter; it's a different kind of noise - different pitch. They're great fans though, so far. I've used several. It's the size, power consumption, and included dimmability that make them so great.
 
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2com said:
@Airwalker16 I don't find the Hyper fans much quieter; it's a different kind of noise - different pitch. They're great fans though, so far. I've used several. It's the size, power consumption, and included dimmability that make them so great.
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I bet it's as quiet as the one I'm using now
 
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2com

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@fragileassassin

Nice little RDWC build. I thought I'd share a few cents if that's ok...

I'd suggest "DC water pumps" in the future. I know you're not looking to buy something new right now mabye but when you do, get a DC pump, for example the "Jebao" brand (amazon, reef supplies). They consume less power, therefore adding less heat to the water, they're speed controllable, they have soft start (ramps up), they have a pause button (perfect for doing some quick maintenance).

Also, is the water pump you're using oriented vertically? With the input/output running vertically - up and down, not horizontally? That's probably causing cavitation (I think), as well as what someone already mentioned about having certain diameter restrictions before the pump intake could be doing that as well.

I don't know if you calculated the weight of the water in all those buckets, but I thought I'd bring it up because the legs on your table look like they could use a cross brace. I can't see any - but you could simply put a piece of wood across the legs and screw that down.

Oh, and insulated any of the pipes you can (afford too). It does more than help your efficiency (energy used), it makes for more consistent temps. Lastly, white PVC is *not* light proof (even schedule 40 PVC). I just mention this because most people don't know this.

Just trying to be helpful.
Peace.
 
fragileassassin

fragileassassin

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2com said:
@fragileassassin

Nice little RDWC build. I thought I'd share a few cents if that's ok...

Just trying to be helpful.
Peace.
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Always open for input.
This sounds like the pump route im looking to go later. A nice DC jet pump, the ones I was looking at were $150-200 though.
It does pump out vertically, but thats the way it was meant to. They have pretty good lift, ive used them to pump my res out from the basement out to the back yard.
Since ive submerged it and put a chiller on it, it hasnt been much of an issue so itll work for now.

without the trashcan res. it was in the 22-24 gallon range at operating level so the system weighs about the same as I do.
I stood on the table, walked around on it, and bounced up and down a bit and it seems sturdy enough. If it looks off in one of the pictures it was probably just from it being moved. I have some 2x2s I may attach to the legs to keep the bottoms from spreading.

The thicker walled PVC is, i tested the 1.25" pipe that runs back along the bottom before I put it in. The 3/4" stuff I used on my feed lines is not, which is why i wrapped it all in foil tape. I do plan to insulate some of it though.
 
myke

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Glad u got the temp down.I may have missed it but why dont u hang your pump above the water?Surly it can pull 12" up.
 
myke

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fragileassassin said:
Yes but it also slows things down which I'm trying to avoid. Which is why they're getting topped once and only lst.
If I need to I need to, but the point of most of what I'm doing is to not need to
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suppercroping speeds thing up is what ive found
 
fragileassassin

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myke said:
Glad u got the temp down.I may have missed it but why dont u hang your pump above the water?Surly it can pull 12" up.
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That particular pump not being submerged was a big part of the issue.
and that interesting about the supercropping, i was just going off of things ive read. I did it some this grow but i didnt have anything to compare against.
Im not against doing it if I have to, but if things go how I want, I wont really have room to do it anyway.
 
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led1k

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fragileassassin said:
This sounds like the pump route im looking to go later. A nice DC jet pump, the ones I was looking at were $150-200 though.
It does pump out vertically, but thats the way it was meant to. They have pretty good lift, ive used them to pump my res out from the basement out to the back yard.
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Found this:
https://www.amazon.com/Jebao-DCW-2000-Controller-aquarium-Circulation/dp/B075VS48KK/ref=sr_1_10?s=pet-supplies
Only $66 but it's 2.5m lift may not get you out of your basement?
 
fragileassassin

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led1k said:
Better :-)
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I have a few planned upgrades for when I have the money.
-Insulate more of the veg system
-Better pump for the veg system
-LED replacement bulbs for the T5s. I considered more qbs later, but these things push good wattage so maybe I can get some F-series strips to put in them or something?
-I still have air stones laying around, considering grabbing another air pump and putting a stone in each veg bucket too. because why not.
-Going to run a 220v outlet down into the basement and hook up something like a 8 outlet controller to power all my lights.
-Going to nearly double the wattage in my flower tent, part of the reason I want the controller box.
-Could use a few more fans in the flower tent.
-Gotta get a cloner box built around my table instead of the cheap foil stuff I used last time.
 
fragileassassin

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Local steal!
Got a great deal on this 8 outlet light controller. This will save me a lot of money and energy in solving my breaker space issues.
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