Fox Farms...Organic or not?

legallyflying

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We should probably debate who really gives a fuck?

Yeah hormones have to be extracted or synthesized; BFD. Someone tell me the difference between 90% organic nutes like botanicare and the fully organic, no minerals at all organic nutes because my patients who are seasoned smokers can't.
 

Wolverine97

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We should probably debate who really gives a fuck?

Yeah hormones have to be extracted or synthesized; BFD. Someone tell me the difference between 90% organic nutes like botanicare and the fully organic, no minerals at all organic nutes because my patients who are seasoned smokers can't.
Here's what kills me about the organic designation; You go down by the river, find a piece of iron laying there, is it organic? Nope. Now, say a big ass bear comes meandering by, he says "damn I'm hungry" and eats that piece of iron. Once it passes through his gut and gets shit out, that same piece of iron is now organic. Makes sense right? Right?
 

legallyflying

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Lmfao. MY favorite is you dig up some rocks from the earth. Wash them off with water and then grind them up and separate out the parts you want to use. That isn't organic either.

I can see where people are coming from though. It's really healthy to
Inhale thick clouds of smoke from burning vegetation, but only if that vegetation is completely organic. I like to go hiking in forest fires because the smoke is soo clean and tastes so good. Why wouldn't it ; It's completely organic.
 

Wolverine97

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Lmfao. MY favorite is you dig up some rocks from the earth. Wash them off with water and then grind them up and separate out the parts you want to use. That isn't organic either.

I can see where people are coming from though. It's really healthy to
Inhale thick clouds of smoke from burning vegetation, but only if that vegetation is completely organic. I like to go hiking in forest fires because the smoke is soo clean and tastes so good. Why wouldn't it ; It's completely organic.
Word. Don't panic, it's organic!
 

stona lady

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perfect...took ya long enough. they only list what they want you to know is in it is why. and omri only looks at labels and what is onlien for that co and product,. so i could tell em anything as to what is in it and get aproved.
i dont get that post as you say it dosent claim to be fully organic but yet you say it is???...cant be both. i say its organic based meaning part organic and part not..the hormoens alone arent organic as a man made them. i bet my left nut its gibberellins as most is and yes that is a natural one but not if man made it. thats what organic based means...and gives the omri ok
how bout poreservatives for shelf life???...what is a natural one forund in the earth?
don't try to misrepresent what i said to continue your silly rant. i never said the stuff is "100%" organic, i simply said it is "organic" which a nitpicker like yourself surely picked up on before you typed that response. i will ask you again. what is written on a bottle of big bloom that is misleading? where is the mistruth? or a better question is what is being left out of the info on the bottle? don't quote the website or random literature. if i go into a store and pick up[ a bottle of big bloom, explain the lie on the bottle.
 

Medi 1

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hahahaha..if you actualy read what ive been posting youd have kept up to whats not on the label. i hate repeating myself and have already posted the info more than once. you obvioulsy dont understand the nute bizz so it wont help for me to explain anymore, besides not being allowed to say more on the ingredients. its either organic or its not..and this is not. never seen a bottle ever say 48% organic yet. and all omri does is say if the labels contents are organic. not whats not listed.

one last time...almost every bottle out there has hormones and none are organic. all man made. but how many bottles do you see admit they add gibberellins???...there ya go, not on a label. how bout even a benneficial nutrient. i dont see to many list all the bennies they have inside. would need more than a label to just list off the family of bacillus subtilus strains...and thats only 1 form of a bennie but has many within that family. promix dosent claim to have any N/P/K in the bail of soil but yet it has between 600 anf 900ppm new out of the bag. i dotn see water on any labels for nutes either but yet its the largest compound in them....you followin yet???
 

Wolverine97

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hahahaha..if you actualy read what ive been posting youd have kept up to whats not on the label. i hate repeating myself and have already posted the info more than once. you obvioulsy dont understand the nute bizz so it wont help for me to explain anymore, besides not being allowed to say more on the ingredients. its either organic or its not..and this is not. never seen a bottle ever say 48% organic yet. and all omri does is say if the labels contents are organic. not whats not listed.

one last time...almost every bottle out there has hormones and none are organic. all man made. but how many bottles do you see admit they add gibberellins???...there ya go, not on a label. how bout even a benneficial nutrient. i dont see to many list all the bennies they have inside. would need more than a label to just list off the family of bacillus subtilus strains...and thats only 1 form of a bennie but has many within that family. promix dosent claim to have any N/P/K in the bail of soil but yet it has between 600 anf 900ppm new out of the bag. i dotn see water on any labels for nutes either but yet its the largest compound in them....you followin yet???
What exactly is a benneficial nutrient?
Thanks, I'll hang up and listen...
 

legallyflying

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nu uhhh! Ya huh, nu uuh, YEAH HUH! NU UHHH!

In addition to the like tab, there should also be a GAY tab because if there was I would definitely click it a couple times on this thread.
 

Medi 1

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i meant by sayin a benny or benneficial is a benneficial microbial or fungi. some are benneficial and sonme are bad for our crops. and no i wasnt reffewring to fox fat nute, was juts a general reff to labels again not showing everything in a bottle
 

legallyflying

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i meant by sayin a benny or benneficial is a benneficial microbial or fungi. some are benneficial and sonme are bad for our crops. and no i wasnt reffewring to fox fat nute, was juts a general reff to labels again not showing everything in a bottle
where do I get the fox fat newts? Is that a special insider nute industry secret thing that only people that can't spell or structure a proper sentence.
 

Medi 1

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where do I get the fox fat newts? Is that a special insider nute industry secret thing that only people that can't spell or structure a proper sentence.


ya 1 typo other was intentional. and like i said about people that cant keep up turn to insults...thx for proving my point once again....
 

legallyflying

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Yeah. I only wish I could keep up. I've got no idea what is going on around me.

I think the point that you missed in your ADD fueled post was that your posts read like some teenage girls twitter casts. With abbreviations, bad grammar, horrible spelling, and at times, a thought process that simply can not be followed. I'm sure this isnt indicative of your general intelligence level. Certainly you are one of those incredibly bright people that just can't type or convey his thoughts in a coherent manner.
 

cowboylogic

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perfect...took ya long enough. they only list what they want you to know is in it is why. and omri only looks at labels and what is onlien for that co and product,. so i could tell em anything as to what is in it and get aproved.
i dont get that post as you say it dosent claim to be fully organic but yet you say it is???...cant be both. i say its organic based meaning part organic and part not..the hormoens alone arent organic as a man made them. i bet my left nut its gibberellins as most is and yes that is a natural one but not if man made it. thats what organic based means...and gives the omri ok
how bout poreservatives for shelf life???...what is a natural one forund in the earth?
Fox Farms Big Bloom CAN BE USED to grow USDA Certified organic crops........
 

Medi 1

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not wastin my time anymore but go get your crop tested by them then and see what they say. i have thier recipe and its not...been in it enough with you. if i said the sky was blkue you`d say no its teal. you always have and always will.
 

Total Head

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not wastin my time anymore but go get your crop tested by them then and see what they say. i have thier recipe and its not...been in it enough with you. if i said the sky was blkue you`d say no its teal. you always have and always will.
all you've done is make empty claims that require inside information to verify or disprove. conveniently you are cloaking this mysterious information that only YOU have special access to...i may as well say the moon is made of cheese because my uncle works at nasa and he showed me the "real deal" on satellite once...i mean i SAID so, so that automatically makes it true, right?
 

Medi 1

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maybe it does then. you pay my law suit andf ill post the recipe. i dont care if you dont believe. there is nothing in it if you do or if you dont. im, not making money or whatever some may think at spilling a few myths. i do it as a grower. why would i lie. anyone that knows me over the years of being onli8ne and what ive posted knows i dont feed bull shit. but like i said...it makes no diff to me if anyone believes or not, and im not saying the product is shitty at all...just trying to explain the diff of organic based and real organic....if its real why isnt the ph down low like 3 or 4 ph like real organics are. can you show me an organic preservative????...they all have it in them or it would go bad on the shelf in a few months, right there makes it non orgainc...or based organic.
 

Total Head

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the point is if we can't prove what you're saying it's not really helping anyone. i for one do not have the money needed to run the types of tests needed to verify what you say. it makes for nice discussion, but at the end of the day no one can really apply it to their grow without the "secret info". at least throw us a bone. even one "organic" product that you can actually prove unlisted ingredients would make your whole point for you. the way you rail against the big bloom's labelling in particular has my attention, but without proof it's just another forum rant. maybe the stuff they left out would bother some of us but not others. i need to know what exactly is going on to form an opinion. all i can find is contamination type reports for metals and such.
 
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