Fox Farm Happy Frog

Highflier22

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Whats up everyone. I'll be starting a new grow within a week from now. I know with Fox Farm Ocean Forest, it says not to feed your plants for about 3 weeks because it has a substantial amount of nutrients in it already. But, what about Happy Frog by Fox Farm? Would you wait the same amount of time until you feed your plants? I plan on using a 4'x4'x6.5' mylar tent with a 600w hps/metal halide HID light, 5 3 1/2 gallon pots and I want to plant my freshly germinated seeds directly into these pots so I won't be stressing them out from too much transporting. Mainly I just want to know, If I plant the sprouts into the Happy frog, how long should I wait until feeding them? I will be using Floraduo A&B for veg and flowering. If anyone knows the answer or has some good advice please let me know, because I will begin the new grow soon. Thanks! :hump:
 

cacamal

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I would wait also. the HF has more wood and what not in it but also contains trace elements even though not as hot as FFOF
 

nuggetgrower

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At 2-3 weeks I begin 1/4 strength nutes. I feed at 1/4 a few times then I bump up to 1/2 strength for the next couple feedings. Watch carefully for signs of nutrient deficiencies. You can ramp up to 3/4 or full strength or not as you see fit.

Depending how long you veg you may never need to go full strength.

Hope this helps, I use happy frog.:joint:
 

Izoc666

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I really dont know much about foxfarms happy frog, but i think its kinda vision of peat moss ? i did make my own soilless pots, 48% of peat moss 48% perlite and 2% of garden soil. i havent feed my two seedling for 18 days so i do have GH floraduo, i used 1/4 of both a & b along with cal mag. you can see the results really immediately after you feed your plant...and im glad that i did started with low doses...let you see the pictures and you will get the general idea....heres my pictures:

the products that im using :



18 days seedling without any nutes.



19 days seedling , just fed with nutes:



i cant advise you to do anything, just follow your instinct and know your strain of the plant, hopefully this will help you :)

good luck and happy growing !
 

symbiote420

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If you want to start feeding your plants without having to play guessing games, don't fukk with that FF shit use ProMix HP or BX, or Sunshine Advanced Mix 4 my personal fav, and you can start feeding when you want with liquids or amend them with dry nutes to your specifics.
FFOF & HF are more of a compost than soil, Does anybody know what is the npk? it does have nutes added right? most people have problems unless they cut it; it is living off it's reputation it's not half the product it use to be, ask anybody who's used it back in the day.
 

Highflier22

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With PROmix do you have to water your plants more frequently as compared to FF soils? I heard that it is more airy and doesn't retain water as long.
 

symbiote420

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MJ loves airy, well draining soils. Plus you could add things like vermiculite and/or earthworm castings to help retain moisture without burning the plants and it will still be cheaper and more manageable than the FF "soils."
 

Highflier22

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What ratio would you mix the Pro-mix and earth worm castings? The prices are VERY reasonable as you said, have you had good grows/outcomes using pro-mix?
 

Highflier22

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Also if I were to go with the pro-mix route, could I start feeding right away? or should I still wait a little while
 

symbiote420

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I use Sunshine Advanced Mix #4 and dry organic amendments, but a lot of my friends use ProMix and liquid nutes like Canna & Advanced Nutrients, they water with quarter to 1/2 strength nute doses the first watering and slowly increase afterwards unless a particular plant is expressing a need for more. Hope that helps!

With regular potting soils I used to add 4:1 soil to castings (ex. 1 gallon of castings to every 4 gallons of soil).
 
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