For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

what is an ocho?

hornedfrog2000 said:

what is an ocho?

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Magnum XXXL 8 inch - they call it the Ocho

C.A.P. just released one called The Massive that is sweeeet. Its solid and not quite as thick in case your lacking in height availability.

just wanted to let you guys know i got my grow journal back up and running. come check it out. ebb & grow baby!!

Just came back from first trip leaving e&g unattended for 2 weeks on home made ph automation.

Success!

Highly recommend Milwaukee instruments sm122 controller.

Anyone automate nutrient supply?

No never have, can you post some pics of the unit?

I've seen them before but what nutrient feeding system are you using? Were there any issues with compatability? I've looked into Argus and Easy eed systems but they have their limitations in my book. The Argus is SUPER expensive and the easy feed doesn't seem reliable. Plus when you start adding a number of different nutes at different stages those systems get super expensive and a little unreliable in my opinion. If anything I would get the Argus once I sold a kidney or something.

pluto420 said:

I have been trying to find a good thread about the cap e & g system but haven't been able to find one yet so thought I would start this and see if I can get a good discussion going and compile a good overall document on the system.

If you are using the cap e & g system please give your feedback to the following questions and feel free to add anything else of interest you can think of.

What medium do you use? Were there other mediums you tried and then switched? I have tried stg inserts and hydro-ton but have much better results with hydro-ton.

Did you do any customizations to the system like raising the buckets 1 inch higher than the controller? I put 1 inch spacers in the outer bucket so the inner bucket wouldn't be sitting in water all the time. I also put hose clamps around all the tubing after I had one come off and get water everywhere.

Do you use the Cap system for both veg and flower? If so what were your feeding schedules for both stages? If you don't use the system for both veg and flower what did you use for veg and how easy was it to move/transplant to the cap system?


How often did you change the rez?

Which Nutes do you use?

Pros and cons of the CAP system?

Thanks to all

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Howdy... I got my CAP Ebb and Grow 55-gallon system roughly 2-months ago. I love it and hate it at the same time! I love the way my girls are growing but hate the constant chasing of leaks!!! The latest was the return line coming loose in the controller bucket (and yes, I tried the funky hose clamps that came with it... what a joke) and my floor was flooded with the new nutes I just put in last night.
I started with 12/2-gallon buckets and have since added 6/3-gallon buckets and currently using hydroton... I tried STG with my old ebb and grow system but... the dang roots hated it... rotton roots and mass algae from all the water it holds.
I really dig the 3-gallon set-ups especially with the cool lids with a built in cup for the hydroton rather than filling a whole bucket with hydroton, like in the 2-gallon set-ups... it leaves mass more room for the roots to grow but... it definitely takes more water. I am currently adding about 10-gallons to the reservoir since the plants are drinking a good 5-gallons a day.
I am using technaflora'a recipe for success and have been for 2-years in soil, and in my various hydro set-ups since starting... I am also adding liquid budswell during the flower cycle. I am currently running 2/1000w HPS lights with 4/4-foot T5 230w fluorescent bulbs mixing full-spectrum's with reds (4-bulbs per unit... 2 full spectrum and 2 reds for flowering) I have one placed on each side of the HPS lights in a 8'x14' room that I lined with Prodex insulation on the walls, ceiling, and floor that work awesome for radiant reflection.
I made a pretty cool discovery from one of my leaking buckets... the dang grommet just wouldn't seal so... I pulled the grommet out, stuck a cork in the hole, ran an airline with a airstone into the bucket, and filled it full of nute water... it is passing up the regular ebb and grow buckets.
I'm thinking of ending my endless leak problem (3-days is my record for no leaks) and just getting a good compressor and to copy what I did with the bucket I corked, and scrap the ebb and grow.
I'm losing a lot of money in nutes every time the dang system leaks... so far... no trouble with the floats and controller but after the first 3-weeks I had to replace one of the pumps. I also have 11 plants in soil and the difference between those and the ebb and grow are like night and day... ebb and grow plants are 3x's the size of the one's in soil after 2-months.
I currently do a complete nute change in 10-12 days.

Dude i have been runing cap systems sinse the first hit the market and have zero leaks!
You got to be doing somthing rong with it to have that many leaks

Agreed I just had my system sitting in a dusty ass storage unit for about 3 months, pulled it out cleaned it and it still works without a leak. The lower pots can be pretty fragile and have to have the seals and barbed fittings in there right or you can crack the buckets.

New guy here, been registered but haven't posted alot, done a few successful soil grows. Seems like you guys have alot of experience with this ebb and flow setup. I have been wanting to switch to hydro, I would do the 12 pot setup. My first question is do you need to fill the res all the way for 12 pots? Also have any of you guys looked into the Big Boy Hydro setup?
http://htgsupply.com/Product-Big-Boy-Hydroponic-System.asp

How do you think the big boy would stack up against the CAP ebb and gro?

I know its probably been chewed up and spit out a few times but i can't seem to find the answer: "What is the ideal tempature range for the res". Thank you.

@ menaice i would pass on both and go strait to the titan system.
As for just running 12 you could run half full no problem.

@ enotee best res temp in my exp is 64f to 66f

hellraizer30 said:

@ menaice i would pass on both and go strait to the titan system.
As for just running 12 you could run half full no problem.

@ enotee best res temp in my exp is 64f to 66f

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This man speaks the truth!


Or you could try the new Sentinel system and be our guinea pig? Please? kiss-ass

hi morris ive got a question about this ebb and flow i was reading online that these systems the pumps tend to fail and flood your room have you ever heard of this happening or experienced it also i read that they don't drain completely and cause issues with build up and last you said you purchased one plantlighting do you live in canada reason i ask is i do and wondered if they ship their

menaice said:

New guy here, been registered but haven't posted alot, done a few successful soil grows. Seems like you guys have alot of experience with this ebb and flow setup. I have been wanting to switch to hydro, I would do the 12 pot setup. My first question is do you need to fill the res all the way for 12 pots? Also have any of you guys looked into the Big Boy Hydro setup?
http://htgsupply.com/Product-Big-Boy-Hydroponic-System.asp

How do you think the big boy would stack up against the CAP ebb and gro?

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I have 2 18 site Big boy systems with 6 x 1000 watts in a 12 x 16 sealed room. We just made a 3rd system ourselves, and it is identical to the Big Boy. The only item I purchased used was the 55 gal res ($15). Altogether, $220. The 18 site big boy is over $500. It´s a very simple system and you can purchase all the materials at your local hydro shop.
For 12 pots, I would only use 4 feeding lines and plug the other 2. 40 gallons is plenty to feed 12 3 gallon pots. You will need a full 55 gallons if you expand.
Make sure the float is adjusted properly, and your feed and drain timers should be synced with a digital timers.
When flushing, I use a wet dry vac and suck the water out of the lines and buckets from inside the control bucket. This technique will leave the whole system completley dry before filling the res again, and it only takes 5 to 10 minutes.
I just fell in love with coco fiber in smart pots. I had 5 plants on a 2 x 4 flood table and the plants love it.
I only wish I could figure out how to drop a 3 gallon smart pot in the ebb and grow pots without replacing all the buckets,,,,

I have a few questions. Fisrt qestions is will Floralicious Plus and FloraBlend leave nasty residue in my Titan Flo-N-Grow res. Second is Dutch Master Zone and G.H. FloraSheild the same product do i need both?

enotee said:

I have a few questions. Fisrt qestions is will Floralicious Plus and FloraBlend leave nasty residue in my Titan Flo-N-Grow res. Second is Dutch Master Zone and G.H. FloraSheild the same product do i need both?

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When it comes to gh floralicious plus and blend you will see the same in dirtyness as you would in nova! My opion is
to stick with a more cleaner nute line. Technoflora is a good one super clean.

I have a new space to work with an 8x8 room and four 600w lights I was wondering how many ebb and grow buckets would fit comfortably with a month of veg time?

enotee said:

I have a new space to work with an 8x8 room and four 600w lights I was wondering how many ebb and grow buckets would fit comfortably with a month of veg time?

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A 12 site would fit, just make sure you lollie pop it good to allow good air movment, plus it will get the plant to direct its
production to the top of the plant. 4weeks with a strain thats a stretchy one will be no good so make sure what your
growing isnt a stretch monster!