Flush or wait another week to start?

Wogwon

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And I get it now guys thanks for the help I will continue to feed until she is ready thank you for the help what’s the suggested ppm? I am feeding her right @ 1100 rightnow I had the ppm up to 1500 for about two weeks should I bump her back up to those numbers? Also I haven’t found to much about this strain it has grape in the name so I figured there were some purple genes in there somewhere. I got the seeds for free from seeds now with a purchase I think they were automatically delish big grape kiwi is the strain.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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And I get it now guys thanks for the help I will continue to feed until she is ready thank you for the help what’s the suggested ppm? I am feeding her right @ 1100 rightnow I had the ppm up to 1500 for about two weeks should I bump her back up to those numbers? Also I haven’t found to much about this strain it has grape in the name so I figured there were some purple genes in there somewhere. I got the seeds for free from seeds now with a purchase I think they were automatically delish big grape kiwi is the strain.
IMO there is never a need to feed that high.
 

Uncultivated

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And I get it now guys thanks for the help I will continue to feed until she is ready thank you for the help what’s the suggested ppm? I am feeding her right @ 1100 rightnow I had the ppm up to 1500 for about two weeks should I bump her back up to those numbers? Also I haven’t found to much about this strain it has grape in the name so I figured there were some purple genes in there somewhere. I got the seeds for free from seeds now with a purchase I think they were automatically delish big grape kiwi is the strain.
I run my ppm at half that or less. Are your leaf tips burnt?

For what it's worth, I run hydro and don't really flush. What I do is to reduce the bloom (the stuff with nitrogen) down to zero from weeks 5-7 or so and just use the bud booster after that. Plants start really drawing less N after week 5 or so.
 

Wogwon

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I run my ppm at half that or less. Are your leaf tips burnt?

For what it's worth, I run hydro and don't really flush. What I do is to reduce the bloom (the stuff with nitrogen) down to zero from weeks 5-7 or so and just use the bud booster after that. Plants start really drawing less N after week 5 or so.
That’s what I will do I will just feed boost pk13/14 cannazyme rizo and Mam p from this week on out
 

jimihendrix1

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I mysef wouldnt cut out the Nitrogen either. Id cut my PPM in half the last 2 weeks. All Nitrogen is, is Protein. Humans eat Protin, and turn it into Nitroger. Thats why you hear of athletes trying to stay in Positive Nitrogen Balance.Also Protein in Greek, means of Fikrst Importane. Protein is responsible for cell division, creating hormones. Proteins are broken into amino acids then re-synthesized into hormones and enzymes to regulate chemical reactions in the cell, and molecules used for tissue growth and repair.
All I do is cut back on ALL Nutrients, not just Nitrogen.

The main thing is to have proper balance. To much Nitrogen can indeed fuck with flowering, but we arent talking about to much. To much of anything could mess with flowering, just as to little can. The last couple weeks the plants need less of everything, but its also true the plant will swell more in the last couple weeks, and will continue to produce other chemicals, and Terpenes.

Hydro Gardens has been making fertilizer since the 60s, and plant specific fertilizers, and use tissue analysis for their determinations of what each plant needs.

In their weed formula, they dont mention cutting out nitrogen, only just cutting ALL Nutrients back in the last phase. The plants will only use whatever Nitrogen they need.

Why Do Plants Need Protein?
https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Why Do Plants Need Protein?&url=https://www.reference.com/science/plants-need-protein-3b58f993180a2fd2
Plants need protein for healthy growth and development. One of the critical roles of protein in plants is regulating phototropism and mediating the response of plants to light-dark cycles. Proteins are also involved in energy-generating reactions, intracellular structure and membrane transport.
The nitrates are converted into amino acids, synthesized into protein and stored in different places in the plant. Only a small percentage of nitrates, however, get absorbed by plants, and the remaining nitrogen leaches into either the soil, the air or water.

The word » protein « comes from the Greek »proteos«, meaning the »first one« or the »most important one«. Protein is truly the most important building block.
 

calvin.m16

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I mysef wouldnt cut out the Nitrogen either. Id cut my PPM in half the last 2 weeks. All Nitrogen is, is Protein. Humans eat Protin, and turn it into Nitroger. Thats why you hear of athletes trying to stay in Positive Nitrogen Balance.Also Protein in Greek, means of Fikrst Importane. Protein is responsible for cell division, creating hormones. Proteins are broken into amino acids then re-synthesized into hormones and enzymes to regulate chemical reactions in the cell, and molecules used for tissue growth and repair.
All I do is cut back on ALL Nutrients, not just Nitrogen.

The main thing is to have proper balance. To much Nitrogen can indeed fuck with flowering, but we arent talking about to much. To much of anything could mess with flowering, just as to little can. The last couple weeks the plants need less of everything, but its also true the plant will swell more in the last couple weeks, and will continue to produce other chemicals, and Terpenes.

Hydro Gardens has been making fertilizer since the 60s, and plant specific fertilizers, and use tissue analysis for their determinations of what each plant needs.

In their weed formula, they dont mention cutting out nitrogen, only just cutting ALL Nutrients back in the last phase. The plants will only use whatever Nitrogen they need.

Why Do Plants Need Protein?
https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Why Do Plants Need Protein?&url=https://www.reference.com/science/plants-need-protein-3b58f993180a2fd2
Plants need protein for healthy growth and development. One of the critical roles of protein in plants is regulating phototropism and mediating the response of plants to light-dark cycles. Proteins are also involved in energy-generating reactions, intracellular structure and membrane transport.
The nitrates are converted into amino acids, synthesized into protein and stored in different places in the plant. Only a small percentage of nitrates, however, get absorbed by plants, and the remaining nitrogen leaches into either the soil, the air or water.

The word » protein « comes from the Greek »proteos«, meaning the »first one« or the »most important one«. Protein is truly the most important building block.
I still like to flush the last 7 days just for savings and have noticed a whiter ash doing it.
 

jimihendrix1

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Theres no scientific evedence for flushing. Show me the studies on flushing. Not just word of mouth. What you like to do, and what is optimal may be 2 different things.
I can show you a recent study saying flushing does nothing. Also Nitrogen is not stored in the buds/Stigmas, and resin heads.

As per the Why do plants need Protein/Nitrogen.

Only a small percentage of nitrates, however, get absorbed by plants, and the remaining nitrogen leaches into either the soil, the air or water.
 

speedwell68

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I still like to flush the last 7 days just for savings and have noticed a whiter ash doing it.
It'll make no difference to the ash colour. As we speak I am smoking joint of Bruce Banner #3 in a Rizla Silver paper. Last night I was smoking the same BB#3 using a Highland Extra Long paper, the ash with the Rizla is a light grey. The ash with the Highland is pure white. Yet I used the same weed. The plant wasn't flushed, how can that be?

The concept of flushing is utter rubbish. Cannabis is the only commodity/consumable crop on the planet where the technique is employed. Cannabis is also the only crop that is almost exclusively produced by stoned idiots that will believe anything the internet tells them.

When you harvest a plant (any plant) you want it to be at the peak of it's life cycle, you aren't going to achieve that by starving it for a large percentage of it's life.
 

Bookush34

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In soil your not really flushing. As their is lost left in the soil.
However when I do 100% perlite hempy buckets. I will flush with RO water during the grow if needed and the last 2 days. Just to clean the Rez in the bucket a bit. That’s if my run off ppm gets too high.
 

Uncultivated

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I mysef wouldnt cut out the Nitrogen either. Id cut my PPM in half the last 2 weeks. All Nitrogen is, is Protein. Humans eat Protin, and turn it into Nitroger.
Err... nitrogen is not a protein.

And I'm not saying to empty the reservoir. Just stop adding nitrogen late flower. Just one opinion...
 

Uncultivated

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Plants still need some nitrogen even late in flower. Starving your plants of any necessary nutritional elements isn't beneficial to the final product.
Yeah, but I don't exactly starve them. To be clear, I just stop adding the nutrients to the water I'm adding to the reservoir. I don't remove the solution that's there, so there's still N in there. The concentration will start dropping, and you'll see some yellowing of the fan leaves after a bit. I don't go overboard so the leaves all die. Ideally when I'm harvesting, there's some yellowing of the leaves but they're not dead/falling apart.
 
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