Flowering at an early stage I’m a newbie

Is this plant healthy and growing as it should?

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Denox02

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i have question my plant is about a month and a half old still rather small and flowering, I’m growing it outdoors it has like 3 pistils and 2 of them are turning dark at the top plus the leaves are light green I want to know if is healthy and if that is normal I’m in a tropical climate I water every time it starts to get dry image.jpgimage.jpg image.jpg
 

Bear420

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one bud if your lucky. You should of taken her inside until she got bigger, If your in a tropical climate I would imagine your on a 12 hour light 12 hour dark period, which starts the budding Process. Next time I would take her inside and give her at least 18 hours of light per day until she gets a foot or two tall. Then she will produce what I believe your looking to do.

just remember when she receives 12 and 12 of dark and light she will start her flowering process, and if you want more, then you have to get her a bit bigger to produce what you want.

Good luck Happy Grow.
 

Denox02

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Thanks a lot, so I would need to take her inside so she could get taller is it to late now to do it given that is already flowering ? and yeah I’m in the 12 hour of dark and light... do you mean give her the 18 hours of light indoors
 

hotrodharley

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Thanks a lot, so I would need to take her inside so she could get taller is it to late now to do it given that is already flowering ? and yeah I’m in the 12 hour of dark and light... do you mean give her the 18 hours of light indoors
Yes. Long light if you have it and want pot. It will stop flowering, stunt a while, grow weird leaves maybe and then start vegging again.
 

too larry

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In the tropics, your light hours are going to lead to flowering as soon as they are sexually mature {4-6 weeks} and under natural light. Many run a light for two hours at midnight to break up the night, and fool the plant into thinking it's summertime.

In the future find a plastic flower pot. Something with drain holes in it.

If your plant isn't some rare strain that you have to hang on to, I'd pop some more seeds and start fresh. Let that finish up and roll a joint out of it.

Good luck.
 

bezalom

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that will be a high acidic soil there (all that bark)

get a real potting soil and looks like needs some nitrogen so I would get some cal-mag and dose em for seedling
 

ganga gurl420

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Oh lord.... it is NOT TRUE THAT IT TAKES 12/12 outdoors to flower. That is for indoor only. Anything below 15 hours of light can make the plant go into flower.

Anyhow... yes your flowering right now because of your location. Never put a plant outside if it is less then 15 hours of light. Like Larry said ...you can break it up with supplemental lighting.
 

Bear420

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I wonder why someone keeps following me around telling people it don't take 12 and 12 to flower indoors that's the norm and has been for as long as I can remember, why make shit more confusing for someone, Maybe with auto which I have no Idea about. but if you bud in 15 hours of light and 9 or dark IMO you will have stringy loose un-grown proper bud.
Anyhow !! If you want to revert her it may take 6 to 8 weeks to bring her back to veg state, although 15 hours of light can start a budding process, it's not the correct way of doing it. at least in the 45 years i've been, I see it all in soil grows.

I live in a place where I certainly can't grow outdoors in Feb. but my summers are long days `18 and 6. buy the time they become down to 15 and 9 they still are not starting the flowering process yet, which I've been doing for long enough to know. Are you just following someone around to troll them or what ?
The norm for cannabis has been a 12/12 hour photoperiod, Unless they're autos, You can yell all you want, Been on this site for along time now and this is a first. If you're going to tell someone that the normal photoperiod for a plant is anything other than the norm of 12/12 then explain it to the People instead of trying to make someone look bad.
 
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ganga gurl420

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I wonder why someone keeps following me around telling people it don't take 12 and 12 to flower outdoors that's the norm and has been for as long as I can remember, why make shit more confusing for someone, Maybe with auto which I have no Idea about. but if you bud in 15 hours of light and 9 or dark IMO you will have stringy loose un-grown proper bud.
Anyhow !! If you want to revert her it may take 6 to 8 weeks to bring her back to veg state, although 15 hours of light can start a budding process, it's not the correct way of doing it. at least in the 45 years i've been, I see it all in soil grows.

I live in a place where I certainly can't grow outdoors in Feb. but my summers are long days `18 and 6. buy the time they become down to 15 and 9 they still are not starting the flowering process yet, which I've been doing for long enough to know. Are you just following someone around to troll them or what ?
The norm for cannabis has been a 12/12 hour photoperiod, Unless they're autos, You can yell all you want, Been on this site for along time now and this is a first. If you're going to tell someone that the normal photoperiod for a plant is anything other than the norm of 12/12 then explain it to the People instead of trying to make someone look bad.
Why? Because you are wrong. Most early strain plants are being harvested by the end up September when 12 /12 just hits. You act as tho you have control over outdoor growing and the sun. Flowering initiates generally in the beginning of August when the sun is just below 15 hours and then depending on the strain is ready to harvest at 12 /12. For longer running strains because days get shorter it can go as low as 11/13 or more.
 

Beachwalker

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Your soil is not good
Oh lord.... it is NOT TRUE THAT IT TAKES 12/12 outdoors to flower. That is for indoor only. Anything below 15 hours of light can make the plant go into flower.

Anyhow... yes your flowering right now because of your location. Never put a plant outside if it is less then 15 hours of light. Like Larry said ...you can break it up with supplemental lighting.

^ This is correct. If you don't believe it set you veg timer on 14 hours and wait a couple weeks, then you'll believe it.
 

Bear420

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Thanks a lot, so I would need to take her inside so she could get taller is it to late now to do it given that is already flowering ? and yeah I’m in the 12 hour of dark and light... do you mean give her the 18 hours of light indoors
You Could Veg it, It would take some time 6 weeks to 8 weeks to revert. But it can be done, But seems your in a 12 hour daylight and 12 Dark it's going to try and flower whenever shes outside, even being as young as she is, Sometimes Flowering before some good growth can cause hermaphrodite.
Whatever you decide to do Good Luck. Peace out. Enjoy :)

Oh and yes would have to give her more light, just bring her in and put her under a good Light for another 6 hours indoors until she comes back and gets some nice growth
 

Bear420

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Cannabis, like any other plant, relies on light to grow and mature. To get the most out of your plants, keeping control of the light cycle is important. But do you know that when it comes to the health of your plants, the dark cycle is just as important, if not more so?

Growing cannabis can be easy. All it takes is dirt, water, and sunshine. When the plant is first growing, it is in the vegetative stage. This is the stage where it is simply getting bigger, and the bigger it is, the more it will eventually produce. To keep it in the vegetative stage, it has to have at least 13 hours of light. Most indoor growers want to mimic the conditions of long summer days, where it gets the most light.

Setting your lights to an 18-hour cycle will give them plenty of light to grow fast and strong. Some growers will even go for constant light, keeping them lit for 24-hours-a-day. During the flowering stage, where our beautiful buds are produced, the light cycle is reduced to a 12-on/12-off in order to mimic fall, where the days grow shorter, and the plants grow female flowers to attract pollen and produce seeds. But while light is vital for growth, it is the uninterrupted periods of darkness that really tell the plant what to do.
But while light is vital for growth, it is the uninterrupted periods of darkness that really tell the plant what to do.
Why the dark is just as vital

It is natural in the great outdoors for clouds to cover the sky and rainy days to limit light at times. Similarly, when growing cannabis indoors, it is okay to turn your lights off for short periods of time to do maintenance on your grow space, replace bulbs, etc. But ask any veteran grower, and they will tell you that you never want light to leak into the grow space while the plants are sleeping. Why? A host of reasons.

First, it is the length of darkness that a plant is exposed to that signals its system on which stage of life it should be in. Longer nights mean it is time to grow buds. Short nights mean it is time to just grow mass. Like car headlights in your bedroom window, letting light in disturbs this cycle, and messes with their biological clock.
A strong enough exposure during their night cycle can trigger them to stop growing buds and revert back to vegetative growth.
The second reason is even more vital. Just like you or me, when our sleep gets interrupted, we get cranky. For plants, the stress can cause them to react far worse than we do. They can spontaneously become hermaphrodites, and even one hermie in your grow could ruin all your hard work by pollinating the females and making the whole crop go to seed.
The science behind the darkness

Cannabis is a “short day/long night” plant, meaning it needs those conditions to bloom. The system cannabis uses to detect light changes is a group of receptors in the pigments of their leaves. There are 2 different receptors, each with a different task: Phytochrome Red and Phytochrome Far Red. They absorb light in different wavelengths and transmit that information to the plant.
Far-Red can be manipulated through the amount of light given to the plant. This receptor keeps the plant in the vegetative stage. Light in the far-red spectrum will signal this receptor to pass the chemical signal to veg. During times of light, both receptors are balanced in number, but in darkness, Far-Red receptors slowly change into Red receptors.
With longer dark periods, the number of Far-Red receptors reduces until there aren’t enough to counter the signal from the Red receptors, which tell the plant to flower.
Want to speed up your switch from veg to flower? Give plants an uninterrupted 24-36 hours of darkness before going to a 12-12 cycle. It will make more of the Far-Reds change into Reds, giving a more powerful signal to your plant that it is time to bloom. Normally, the transition can take a couple of weeks to be seen on your plants. By giving them a really long night, you can speed this up dramatically.
The power of the dark side

The way in which plants can go “wonky” and revert to vegetative growth is that just because a Far-Red receptor begins to work as a Red one, doesn’t mean that it can’t revert back. It takes several hours of continual darkness to change Far-Reds to Reds, but only a brief moment of bright light to change them back.
Outdoors, normal moonlight and starlight won’t cause this to occur, but a grow in an area with overhead street lamps might experience this problem.
It can, and does also happen to growers who have night-time motion sensor flood lights aimed over their crops. They may scare off burglars or pesky critters, but they can also do just as much damage to your crop as the varmints you are trying to stop.
Bud growth can stop, leaves can begin to grow deformed when plants “re-veg”, and your plants may take a month or more to get back on schedule. Patio growers most often see this. Even the lights coming from inside the house can potentially cause it to happen.
 

ganga gurl420

Well-Known Member
Cannabis, like any other plant, relies on light to grow and mature. To get the most out of your plants, keeping control of the light cycle is important. But do you know that when it comes to the health of your plants, the dark cycle is just as important, if not more so?

Growing cannabis can be easy. All it takes is dirt, water, and sunshine. When the plant is first growing, it is in the vegetative stage. This is the stage where it is simply getting bigger, and the bigger it is, the more it will eventually produce. To keep it in the vegetative stage, it has to have at least 13 hours of light. Most indoor growers want to mimic the conditions of long summer days, where it gets the most light.

Setting your lights to an 18-hour cycle will give them plenty of light to grow fast and strong. Some growers will even go for constant light, keeping them lit for 24-hours-a-day. During the flowering stage, where our beautiful buds are produced, the light cycle is reduced to a 12-on/12-off in order to mimic fall, where the days grow shorter, and the plants grow female flowers to attract pollen and produce seeds. But while light is vital for growth, it is the uninterrupted periods of darkness that really tell the plant what to do.
But while light is vital for growth, it is the uninterrupted periods of darkness that really tell the plant what to do.
Why the dark is just as vital

It is natural in the great outdoors for clouds to cover the sky and rainy days to limit light at times. Similarly, when growing cannabis indoors, it is okay to turn your lights off for short periods of time to do maintenance on your grow space, replace bulbs, etc. But ask any veteran grower, and they will tell you that you never want light to leak into the grow space while the plants are sleeping. Why? A host of reasons.

First, it is the length of darkness that a plant is exposed to that signals its system on which stage of life it should be in. Longer nights mean it is time to grow buds. Short nights mean it is time to just grow mass. Like car headlights in your bedroom window, letting light in disturbs this cycle, and messes with their biological clock.
A strong enough exposure during their night cycle can trigger them to stop growing buds and revert back to vegetative growth.
The second reason is even more vital. Just like you or me, when our sleep gets interrupted, we get cranky. For plants, the stress can cause them to react far worse than we do. They can spontaneously become hermaphrodites, and even one hermie in your grow could ruin all your hard work by pollinating the females and making the whole crop go to seed.
The science behind the darkness

Cannabis is a “short day/long night” plant, meaning it needs those conditions to bloom. The system cannabis uses to detect light changes is a group of receptors in the pigments of their leaves. There are 2 different receptors, each with a different task: Phytochrome Red and Phytochrome Far Red. They absorb light in different wavelengths and transmit that information to the plant.
Far-Red can be manipulated through the amount of light given to the plant. This receptor keeps the plant in the vegetative stage. Light in the far-red spectrum will signal this receptor to pass the chemical signal to veg. During times of light, both receptors are balanced in number, but in darkness, Far-Red receptors slowly change into Red receptors.
With longer dark periods, the number of Far-Red receptors reduces until there aren’t enough to counter the signal from the Red receptors, which tell the plant to flower.
Want to speed up your switch from veg to flower? Give plants an uninterrupted 24-36 hours of darkness before going to a 12-12 cycle. It will make more of the Far-Reds change into Reds, giving a more powerful signal to your plant that it is time to bloom. Normally, the transition can take a couple of weeks to be seen on your plants. By giving them a really long night, you can speed this up dramatically.
The power of the dark side

The way in which plants can go “wonky” and revert to vegetative growth is that just because a Far-Red receptor begins to work as a Red one, doesn’t mean that it can’t revert back. It takes several hours of continual darkness to change Far-Reds to Reds, but only a brief moment of bright light to change them back.
Outdoors, normal moonlight and starlight won’t cause this to occur, but a grow in an area with overhead street lamps might experience this problem.
It can, and does also happen to growers who have night-time motion sensor flood lights aimed over their crops. They may scare off burglars or pesky critters, but they can also do just as much damage to your crop as the varmints you are trying to stop.
Bud growth can stop, leaves can begin to grow deformed when plants “re-veg”, and your plants may take a month or more to get back on schedule. Patio growers most often see this. Even the lights coming from inside the house can potentially cause it to happen.
That is talking about INDOOR not outdoor flowering.
How bout this...go into the outdoor section and ask if it takes 12 hours of dark outdoors for a plant to flower.
Or take a look at when you harvest your outdoor plants. Let's say it's the first week of Oct. And let's say your strain has a 8 to 9 week flowering period.
Now look at the sun calculator for your area and see how many hours of daylight it is when it starts to flower...and you will see it is not 12/12. 12/12 should be closer to when you harvest.
This is also why EVERY YEAR in the outdoor forum people have early flowering issues when they put their plants out too early. And then the experienced growers have to tell them that they have to wait til mid May or June to put them out because the light is below 15 hours a day.
Go ahead and ask.
I know what I'm talking about and the only reason I'm saying anything is you are giving bad advice to noobs and someone will read this and think it's okay to put their plants out at 13 or 14 hours of light in spring and then wonder why they are flowering and in turn will ruin their yield at the end of the year.
 

Beachwalker

Well-Known Member
Cannabis, like any other plant, relies on light to grow and mature. To get the most out of your plants, keeping control of the light cycle is important. But do you know that when it comes to the health of your plants, the dark cycle is just as important, if not more so?

Growing cannabis can be easy. All it takes is dirt, water, and sunshine. When the plant is first growing, it is in the vegetative stage. This is the stage where it is simply getting bigger, and the bigger it is, the more it will eventually produce. To keep it in the vegetative stage, it has to have at least 13 hours of light. Most indoor growers want to mimic the conditions of long summer days, where it gets the most light.

Setting your lights to an 18-hour cycle will give them plenty of light to grow fast and strong. Some growers will even go for constant light, keeping them lit for 24-hours-a-day. During the flowering stage, where our beautiful buds are produced, the light cycle is reduced to a 12-on/12-off in order to mimic fall, where the days grow shorter, and the plants grow female flowers to attract pollen and produce seeds. But while light is vital for growth, it is the uninterrupted periods of darkness that really tell the plant what to do.
But while light is vital for growth, it is the uninterrupted periods of darkness that really tell the plant what to do.
Why the dark is just as vital

It is natural in the great outdoors for clouds to cover the sky and rainy days to limit light at times. Similarly, when growing cannabis indoors, it is okay to turn your lights off for short periods of time to do maintenance on your grow space, replace bulbs, etc. But ask any veteran grower, and they will tell you that you never want light to leak into the grow space while the plants are sleeping. Why? A host of reasons.

First, it is the length of darkness that a plant is exposed to that signals its system on which stage of life it should be in. Longer nights mean it is time to grow buds. Short nights mean it is time to just grow mass. Like car headlights in your bedroom window, letting light in disturbs this cycle, and messes with their biological clock.
A strong enough exposure during their night cycle can trigger them to stop growing buds and revert back to vegetative growth.
The second reason is even more vital. Just like you or me, when our sleep gets interrupted, we get cranky. For plants, the stress can cause them to react far worse than we do. They can spontaneously become hermaphrodites, and even one hermie in your grow could ruin all your hard work by pollinating the females and making the whole crop go to seed.
The science behind the darkness

Cannabis is a “short day/long night” plant, meaning it needs those conditions to bloom. The system cannabis uses to detect light changes is a group of receptors in the pigments of their leaves. There are 2 different receptors, each with a different task: Phytochrome Red and Phytochrome Far Red. They absorb light in different wavelengths and transmit that information to the plant.
Far-Red can be manipulated through the amount of light given to the plant. This receptor keeps the plant in the vegetative stage. Light in the far-red spectrum will signal this receptor to pass the chemical signal to veg. During times of light, both receptors are balanced in number, but in darkness, Far-Red receptors slowly change into Red receptors.
With longer dark periods, the number of Far-Red receptors reduces until there aren’t enough to counter the signal from the Red receptors, which tell the plant to flower.
Want to speed up your switch from veg to flower? Give plants an uninterrupted 24-36 hours of darkness before going to a 12-12 cycle. It will make more of the Far-Reds change into Reds, giving a more powerful signal to your plant that it is time to bloom. Normally, the transition can take a couple of weeks to be seen on your plants. By giving them a really long night, you can speed this up dramatically.
The power of the dark side

The way in which plants can go “wonky” and revert to vegetative growth is that just because a Far-Red receptor begins to work as a Red one, doesn’t mean that it can’t revert back. It takes several hours of continual darkness to change Far-Reds to Reds, but only a brief moment of bright light to change them back.
Outdoors, normal moonlight and starlight won’t cause this to occur, but a grow in an area with overhead street lamps might experience this problem.
It can, and does also happen to growers who have night-time motion sensor flood lights aimed over their crops. They may scare off burglars or pesky critters, but they can also do just as much damage to your crop as the varmints you are trying to stop.
Bud growth can stop, leaves can begin to grow deformed when plants “re-veg”, and your plants may take a month or more to get back on schedule. Patio growers most often see this. Even the lights coming from inside the house can potentially cause it to happen.
"To keep it in the vegetative stage, it has to have at least 13 hours of light"

This is not correct. If you want to find the truth of this matter set your lights to 14 hours on and 10 off and your plants will flower, prove it to yourself, I have.

And the reason I found this out is because somebody gave me incorrect information like you are right now.
 

Bear420

Well-Known Member
Their plant is on a balcony, I am not saying outdoor needs 12 and 12 i said his plant is in 12 and 12 and it's flowering they are on a Balcony Again !! they more than likely bring it in the house or can. I've grew outside and yes that's Right but that was the question or the answer.
first of all they wanted to know if it looked okay there. second they were wondering if it was Budding, I assume, and I said by the looks of it your in a Climate where the Sunlight is 12 and 12. And I asked if it were in that climate they replied yes that they are.
So I ask again where is the wrong info.
Just because your in a climate that's not Tropical and they are, Means that they are in 12 and 12 all year around and your not obviously.

For the record I looked back at my earlier post and said outdoor, I meant indoor. that's my mistake and I apologize for that. I assumed they wanted to take it in and give it more light so it could be bigger. That's all..
 

Beachwalker

Well-Known Member
You said:

"To keep it in the vegetative stage, it has to have at least 13 hours of light"


This is incorrect. I'm not absolutely sure where the line is, or if it may vary slightly by strain, but 14 hours or less of light will cause cannabis plants to flower.
 
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