PadawanWarrior
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That sucks. Can you put a lock on your door. I put one on mine and the key is in my pocket at all times. Then no more worries.
Flowering a hermie
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TreeFiddy350
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I took a couple Picts. Looks like the sacs multiplied like crazy. Here are a couple Picts with the sacs and others of the females.
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macsnax
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Ya that's no Bueno. Time to get it out, it went full on lady boy on ya.
TreeFiddy350
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If I left it, it would pollinate the rest, right? They were 4 weeks old on Saturday.
For one of the strains it says it is done in like 6-7 weeks.
What week does the pollination usually occur? And sorry, but I haven’t had a chance to dive into the links you sent me. I will explore this afternoon after I watwr the plant And whatnot
macsnax
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Ya you're about to have enough pollen to make a lot of seeds, and I mean a lot. Probably best to cut your losses at this point.
TreeFiddy350
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So you don’t think the seeds will be good?
I was hoping to get some seeds to plant since I let it herm and keep going. I was thinking by the time I possibly then and they go into flower, I’ll be able to control the environment much better during the cooler time of the year.
Hydro4life
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Hey oldmeduser, correct me if im wrong but arent feminised seeds made from forcing a female plant to hermie using collodial silver? And pollinating another female plant only passing on female genetics?? I tried this once spraying 3 x a day for 2 to 3 weeks i think it was? Had no luck but the strength of my collodial silver was a bit low..... or maybe its an old wives tail and i wasted 3 weeks of my life!?All cannabis has the ability to go hermie but the normal ones only do it very late in flowering when they haven't been pollinated so try to do it to themselves as a survival trait. Early fem seeds were produced by keeping a female in flower past her due date to make her produce 'nanners. Those were collected and used on other plants to make fem seeds.
Some get a genetic quirk that causes them to do it in early flower and that is an undesirable trait so should not be propagated by growing out seeds from such a union. More prevalent now with all the inbreeding and mixing of strains to produce all the mongrel strains sold these days.
I've been pollen chucking for almost 20 years but I reject seeds from any female that goes hermie. Got a shot glass full of those and all they are good for is tossing around in town for shits and giggles. We used to do that in the Richmond Mall's big plant pots from all the mexi pot seeds we had to clean out before smoking it. Think late 60s.
I'm currently getting into serious breeding to establish some stable lines crossing hi-CBD plants with each other and some of my favorite regular strains. Going to have to make my own sodium thiosulfate and silver nitrate so I can make silver thiosulfate to spray on a female and force her to produce male flowers as some of the strains I have growing now are from clones and/or fem seeds so I don't have a male to get pollen from. I have almost everything I need except aluminum wire to hold the silver coin so I can control how fast it gets reacted in hot nitric acid. Don't want it to boil over.
I've got some studying to do myself to learn more about selecting the right plants to cross and when to inbreed to finally get seeds that grow uniform plants. So many seeds now are sold as F1s which any old pollen chucker can produce but sold for the same outrageous prices as seeds that have been stabilized through breeding multiple generations by people who know what they are doing.
Hydro4life
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Yep, get rid of it treefiddy. It will only pollinate the others and they will focus on seed production rather than bud development.
Hydro4life
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Ive grown hermie seeds plenty of times. I found that any little bit of stress during early to mid flowering will produce bananas. And in my experience if they have a stress free run then they'll pop out a few bananas late flower. If its late enough in flower then it wont really affect the bud production before chop time but it is a risky way of growing. Some strains or phenos of certain strains (lemon kush, ww x bb to name a couple) just seem to throw bananas at some stage in flower. Personally i dont mess with any plant that bananas anymore.
TreeFiddy350
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Right, which I’m not concerned about if the seeds have the chance to be good. They would be in much better conditions and wouldn’t herm from hot temps light leaks
TreeFiddy350
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Really?! shit man. And when you say nanners, are you talking about the pollen sacs?
macsnax
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You really don't want to bank on a big batch of hermes seeds. Yes you might find some nice plants , but you're going to have hermie pollen flying all over again too. I can hook you up with some seeds if you're in need.
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TreeFiddy350
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What do you mean I’ll have hermie pollen all over? If it’s in a 4x4 tent and I have a 5x5 about 5-10 feet away. Would it mess with those if the tent is sealed and whatnot?
Hydro4life
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Not the best pics but they look like little bananas. When the tips have opened up, Theyve released pollen!!
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TreeFiddy350
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Na I’m not in need of seeds, it was more of an experience I guess. I wanted to get a cross between the strains of some good genetics
Hydro4life
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If you are in the pollinated room and go into the non pollinated room you can carry the pollen on your skin/hair/clothes etc. It can transfer this way...... best bet imho is to get rid of it asap!! Have you thought of cloning the others rather than worrying about seeds??
Hydro4life
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Buy those seeds and clone the different phenos, mark the clones to their parent and let the parents flower. Choose the parent you want to keep and clone that parents clone and so on. You will find a stable pheno of the strain you want to grow this way
CannaBruh
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These are not the 'herm seeds' you're looking for.
Herms from bananas that came from stress or end of flowering or something, fine.
You've got full on ball clusters, I'd punt that one asap, oooooooor if you're feeling froggy, isolate it and flower it on its own and have your experiment knowing that if it comes near your other girls they'll possibly get all filled with seed.
Herms from bananas that came from stress or end of flowering or something, fine.
You've got full on ball clusters, I'd punt that one asap, oooooooor if you're feeling froggy, isolate it and flower it on its own and have your experiment knowing that if it comes near your other girls they'll possibly get all filled with seed.
macsnax
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Your tent isn't going to contain pollen, that's a guarentee, lol.
OldMedUser
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It supposedly works but I've never got around to trying it with the CS I make. It makes a few 'nanner type pods that have to be picked off then dried to get the pollen tho I'm a little vague about that.Hey oldmeduser, correct me if im wrong but arent feminised seeds made from forcing a female plant to hermie using collodial silver? And pollinating another female plant only passing on female genetics?? I tried this once spraying 3 x a day for 2 to 3 weeks i think it was? Had no luck but the strength of my collodial silver was a bit low..... or maybe its an old wives tail and i wasted 3 weeks of my life!?
STS is the way to go and fairly simple if you can get the chemicals needed which are sodium thiosulfate and silver nitrate in crystal form. De-chlorination tablets are supposed to be sodium thiosulfate but I'm not sure if they are pure or have other ingredients in them. Can be made by boiling elemental sulfur with sodium hydroxide in water then filter to collect the resulting precipitate. I got both of those.
The silver nitrate and the other are easily found on Amazon.com but neither on Amazon.ca so I'll need to make that too. You just wrap a silver coin with aluminum wire and lower it gingerly into hot concentrated nitric acid so it doesn't boil over or splatter all over the place. I have everything but the Al wire. Hard to find.
Once you have the two precursor chemicals you combine them in the right proportions and voila! Silver thiosulphate aka STS and spray a branch once or twice and lots of male flowers form. At that point I would cut off the branch and stick it in the bedroom closet in a glass of water. Hang a couple of 2700K CFLs over the branch on 12/12 and let the pollen fall onto a sheet of tinfoil or parchment paper for collection. Use that to pollinate other plants and even the donor to get fem seed. By then the donor will be near harvest so you'd have to pollinate clones from it later.
I really drop the ball on keeping to a schedule so STS would be better for me. Took me 2 years to stick to the schedule and get rid of my mite problem. I spent over an hour going through the plants last night with a fine-toothed comb and found not a one. Added a 2nd 400W and need to repot them today once my guts settle down. Out of tobacco again so have to shred some leaf or quit smoking cold turkey! Leaf is moistening now and will be ready to shred in an hour or so.