Flower stretch cap?

Knowurhyphae

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Let us say I have a plant vegged to 10 inches. It has a large flower stretch and when it's done flowering its at 30 inches.
If i take that same plant and grow to 10 feet does that mean the finished plant with be 30 feet? Or is there a cap somewhere along the line?
 

Knowurhyphae

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right I have seen plenty of pictures of 10-15 foot plants. Only on the equator do they even get close to double that in flower.
So we could say Flower stretch does decrease the larger we grow a plant ?

At what point does the stretch decrease in comparison to the maturity of the plant?
 
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Jjgrow420

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I think you're looking at this with too much detail. Stretch can be diff because of light, temp, nutrients etc. Every plant isn't set to stretch a certain amount everytime.
Some stretch more some less. Generally hybrids leaning sativa will have a larger stretch and more indica leaning varieties stay squatter.
 

Knowurhyphae

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Sure light, temp and nutrients can have an effect on the stretch and certainly the over all size, health, and vigor of the plant .I would suspect genetics plays 90% the role of how much a plant grows within its given growing environment. With the above mentioned perimeters as standard.

Am I thinking about it too much? maybe... I just like to fully understand something. When growing inside we account for flower stretch before the flip so we don't run out of space. i often see this described as 25x-75x flower stretch and im thinking to my self that doesn't always add up.
 

jondamon

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Sure light, temp and nutrients can have an effect on the stretch and certainly the over all size, health, and vigor of the plant .I would suspect genetics plays 90% the role of how much a plant grows within its given growing environment. With the above mentioned perimeters as standard.

Am I thinking about it too much? maybe... I just like to fully understand something. When growing inside we account for flower stretch before the flip so we don't run out of space. i often see this described as 25x-75x flower stretch and im thinking to my self that doesn't always add up.
Stretch happens in larger amounts during indoor growing for the simple reason that we instantly switch To 12/12 where as in natures it’s a gradual decrease in daylight hours over a few months etc so stretch is less noticeable.
 

Knowurhyphae

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ooh, so your saying the stretch corresponds to light cycle not the plants size. ( Although in nature they would correspond.)
less light, more stretch. more like the veg of a seedling stretching with insufficient lighting.
 
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OG-KGP

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right I have seen plenty of pictures of 10-15 foot plants. Only on the equator do they even get close to double that in flower.
So we could say Flower stretch does decrease the larger we grow a plant ?

At what point does the stretch decrease in comparison to the maturity of the plant?
I didn't think photo plants would thrive on the equator. There are no seasons and 12/12 is what they experience all year long so there would be no vegetative growth.
 

Knowurhyphae

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yeah man sativas( translates from the word cultivated) are from equatorial areas. Thats why that have a looser structure.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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I didn't think photo plants would thrive on the equator. There are no seasons and 12/12 is what they experience all year long so there would be no vegetative growth.
There is still the usual 4-6 weeks veg until maturity, and equatorial sativas usually take a bit longer to hit maturity that others. I'm living in an area that rarely gets over 13.5 hours daylight and the last sativas ended up 7 foot tall with around two-three months veg and 16 weeks flower.

For example if I start them around Sept they start flowering Early Jan which is mid summer and nearly 14 hours day and if planted around November/December they don't usually start flower until the start of March. They see to have an 8 or so week maturity cycle before flower regardless of when I plant.
 

Gregshed

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jondamon

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ooh, so your saying the stretch corresponds to light cycle not the plants size. ( Although in nature they would correspond.)
less light, more stretch. more like the veg of a seedling stretching with insufficient lighting.
Kind of yes but kind of no.

We experience quick stretch due to the quick transition of our lighting but also the plants maturity can determine how much stretch you see and whether the strain is a heavy stretch or a small stretch within its lineage.

The only difference is that we create a shorter flowering transition by going from 18/6 on one day to 12/12 the next.

in nature it kind of goes.
18/6
17/7
16/8
15/9
14/10

you get the idea, so the stretch happens gradually and you notice less as “stretch” and more just about continuing to veg.

flowering only begins outdoors when you notice pistil formation on your plants.

indoors people call flowering as soon as they switch to 12/12. When in reality the plant doesn’t instantly switch to flower.

it then has to transition to flower in roughly 2 weeks that would normally take 2-3 months outdoors.
 

calvin.m16

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Genetics are the limit when it comes to growing actual tree plants. I've seen 10 foot tall plants indoors but outdoors probably 14 feet or higher? Why are you thinking so deep into this lol.
 

Knowurhyphae

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Stoned way too often and finished looking at the back of a 20$ bill. :wink:
Was thinking there could be a mathematical equation that can be used to determine where to place horizontal supports based off of X amount of veg. Obviously no matter what, you need to know your genetics before that question could be answered.
Although... ya never know whats gonna be said when you ask strangers things that are obvious.(?)
 
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