Flip to 12/12 ?

Quinteli

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Mine are looking ok for my first time grow. My plant on the right seems to be leafy and not budding right. The one on the left is getting nice big buds looks perfect. Dont no what's wrong with the leafy one.20200522_191509.jpg20200522_191500.jpg20200522_191549.jpg20200522_191542.jpg
 

Quinteli

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Are they different strains?
No there the same strain just different phenos, that's what I was told. For some reason the one on on the left the leaves produced a lot of crystals and its not budding as fat as the one on the right.
 

jondamon

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No there the same strain just different phenos, that's what I was told. For some reason the one on on the left the leaves produced a lot of crystals and its not budding as fat as the one on the right.
2 different seeds?

pheno differentiation is why people pheno hunt for that killer plant.
 

Quinteli

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So I'm on week 7 and on the package it says 9 weeks of flower so I'm at the point where I know longer need to add nutreints and just plain water? So I need to begin the flush right? I did the final defoliation, trimmed up the left one, it's so sticky I think is either more sativa or more indica. It's more leafy and I've had weed that's leafy like this. All the sugar leaves I took off are in a zip lock. 20200525_011626.jpg20200525_011633.jpg20200525_011717.jpg20200525_011653.jpg20200525_011645.jpg
 

jondamon

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So I'm on week 7 and on the package it says 9 weeks of flower so I'm at the point where I know longer need to add nutreints and just plain water? So I need to begin the flush right? I did the final defoliation, trimmed up the left one, it's so sticky I think is either more sativa or more indica. It's more leafy and I've had weed that's leafy like this. All the sugar leaves I took off are in a zip lock. View attachment 4575794View attachment 4575795View attachment 4575796View attachment 4575797View attachment 4575799

so you’ve just removed 70% of your plants ability to photosynthesis after 7 weeks of 12/12?

When did you start counting 12/12?

when you switched your lights to 12/12? If this is correct then you’re probably closer to 5 weeks of actual flowering.

no plant has a finished number of days only the plant can say when it’s done.

if a breeder says 9 weeks of 12/12. Then they mean 9 weeks of actual flowering time not just when you switched to 12/12.

as for around 2 weeks of the first 12/12 switch the plants thinks it’s still vegging as it begins to transition to flowering responses.

And then it’s only a guideline for finishing it’s not set in stone. Environmental factors and stressors can play a part in finishing time too.

as for flushing. Make an informed choice.


 

Quinteli

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so you’ve just removed 70% of your plants ability to photosynthesis after 7 weeks of 12/12?

When did you start counting 12/12?

when you switched your lights to 12/12? If this is correct then you’re probably closer to 5 weeks of actual flowering.

no plant has a finished number of days only the plant can say when it’s done.

if a breeder says 9 weeks of 12/12. Then they mean 9 weeks of actual flowering time not just when you switched to 12/12.

as for around 2 weeks of the first 12/12 switch the plants thinks it’s still vegging as it begins to transition to flowering responses.

And then it’s only a guideline for finishing it’s not set in stone. Environmental factors and stressors can play a part in finishing time too.

as for flushing. Make an informed choice.


They went into flower pretty fast like a week in. As soon as a switched to the flower nutreints it started to flower. If you look at the pictures your can see that's their budding. The fan leaves on the left plant all turned into sugar leads and the are very very sticky. Much more sticky than the one on the right. So I need to know when to start flushing basically. Should I give them one more weeks of nutrients?
 

Boatguy

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They went into flower pretty fast like a week in. As soon as a switched to the flower nutreints it started to flower. If you look at the pictures your can see that's their budding. The fan leaves on the left plant all turned into sugar leads and the are very very sticky. Much more sticky than the one on the right. So I need to know when to start flushing basically. Should I give them one more weeks of nutrients?
Removing leaves in late flower is the most counter productive thing you could do. More so even than flushing or starving of nutrients.
Breeder flower times are just a guidline, those plants could have several weeks to go.
 

jondamon

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They went into flower pretty fast like a week in. As soon as a switched to the flower nutreints it started to flower. If you look at the pictures your can see that's their budding. The fan leaves on the left plant all turned into sugar leads and the are very very sticky. Much more sticky than the one on the right. So I need to know when to start flushing basically. Should I give them one more weeks of nutrients?
See previous post.

theres is a link to a flushing trial there with tissue analysis etc.
 

Quinteli

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Well do you guys flush? I read the article and its saying flushing dosent affect anything like taste or smoke harshness. I'm going to go 2 weeks or more for harvest, if I flush it would be 10 days
 

jondamon

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Well do you guys flush? I read the article and its saying flushing dosent affect anything like taste or smoke harshness. I'm going to go 2 weeks or more for harvest, if I flush it would be 10 days
That’s more a question that can be asked without being met with arguments.

I personally do not flush my plants.

I do however taper my nutrients down in strength during the last 2 weeks.

I drop from 1.2-1.4 EC down to around 0.6-0.8 EC by the end.

I never use plain water on my plants ever but I grow in coco and not in soil.

if I grew in soil I wouldn’t flush either.

the article talks about a lot more than no noticeable difference in taste or smell.

Look at the analysis of the tissue samples etc.
 

Quinteli

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So do sugar leaves still gather energy for photosynthesis. I mean my leaves were so sticky the seem like there smokable. Ives smoked leaft buds before, very good light green. There weed I've been buying is bullshit, even from the shops it's not as good. This White Widows should be hood and fresh. I can makes some hash or edibles as well
 

Budzbuddha

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You basically wet trimmed a STILL maturing plant .
Never go by breeder time estimates, they are guides only. Plants dont follow printed dates or your time. They finish when Mother Nature says they are finished.
 

visajoe1

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So do sugar leaves still gather energy for photosynthesis. I mean my leaves were so sticky the seem like there smokable. Ives smoked leaft buds before, very good light green. There weed I've been buying is bullshit, even from the shops it's not as good. This White Widows should be hood and fresh. I can makes some hash or edibles as well
So much negativity in here dang lol. Here's the deal, your plants slow down on nutrient uptake now. To see for yourself measure the runoff and note it for rest of the grow, it will drop more slowly now after giving water. Probably can go 2 weeks without food right now, plenty in the soil and her leaves. I give a light feed (.5-.6ec) when runoff gets down to .25ec to bring them home.

Is that a flush? I dont know. Just give them what they want
 
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