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If the FBI or DOJ was infiltrating a campaign for the benefit of another campaign, that is a really big deal. Only the release or review of documents that the House Intelligence Committee (also, Senate Judiciary) is asking for can give the conclusive answers. Drain the Swamp!

Aolelon said:

Last I checked comey got fired so. And you can. Believe what you want. The bitch deleted 30,000 emails, kept classified information on a private server. Which is against the law. Not to mention her pay to play through the Clinton foundation and funneling millions of dollars through it. You can try all you want. It wont happen. They already banned "assault" rifles once. It didnt do shit to decrease gun deaths.

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Hand guns would be a start. Limit people that belong to a registered firing range to owning one. Minimum sentencing for those that don’t. America is, I believe, stated early, loads safer than many countries so why the need? Like I said it’s gone way beyond gun control now. But I do think handguns would be a start. It must be awful for a kid to go to school thinking he may be shot for just showing up. But yes there is the argument that it’s only a few kids ...... stupid argument.

Budley Doright said:

View attachment 4138689 Hand guns would be a start. Limit people that belong to a registered firing range to owning one. Minimum sentencing for those that don’t. America is, I believe, stated early, loads safer than many countries so why the need? Like I said it’s gone way beyond gun control now. But I do think handguns would be a start. It must be awful for a kid to go to school thinking he may be shot for just showing up. But yes there is the argument that it’s only a few kids ...... stupid argument.

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Because it's about freedom. It's about our constitutional rights. Our right to protect ourselves and not need to worry about needing anyone else for protection. I should have the right to protect my family, and myself, from any threat that might endanger my life or my family's.

Budley Doright said:

View attachment 4138689 Hand guns would be a start. Limit people that belong to a registered firing range to owning one. Minimum sentencing for those that don’t. America is, I believe, stated early, loads safer than many countries so why the need? Like I said it’s gone way beyond gun control now. But I do think handguns would be a start. It must be awful for a kid to go to school thinking he may be shot for just showing up. But yes there is the argument that it’s only a few kids ...... stupid argument.

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For a gun advocate, talking about taking their guns away is going to get you no where fast...might as well threaten to take away their children. after all, its in the constitution, something that is nothing more than a relic these days anyway, that we have the right to bear arms, to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government....that has nuclear weapons, lol.

gjs4786 said:

For a gun advocate, talking about taking their guns away is going to get you no where fast...might as well threaten to take away their children. after all, its in the constitution, something that is nothing more than a relic these days anyway, that we have the right to bear arms, to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government....that has nuclear weapons, lol.

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Better than just laying down and dying/ being slaves even more so than we are now. Imagine what kind of place we would be living in if our forefathers gave up their weaponry. No telling what life would be like, or where this country would be. I can tell you it would be a whole hell of a lot different that's for sure.

Aolelon said:

Better than just laying down and dying/ being slaves even more so than we are now. Imagine what kind of place we would be living in if our forefathers gave up their weaponry. No telling what life would be like, or where this country would be. I can tell you it would be a whole hell of a lot different that's for sure.

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Over a trillion dollars, the war on dugs has cost...and it failed miserably. We all know that. Imagine if resources were spent wisely and motivated by logic as opposed to politicians and their bible school classes. I'm more upset we have nothing to show for all that money spent. Surely, that could have bought a higher level of peace for the citizens of the US? The fact anyone has to worry about protecting their family with violence to begin with is the real tragedy.

No one said take them away lol. All I said was make sure there is a legit reason for owning one. Sport shooting being one. So it’s true then, Americans are scared shitless that someone’s going to kill them and they need handguns to protect themselves from the horde...... but wait, it was suggested that shootings are very rare compared to other countries on a huge scale. Again I’m confused lol. What a sad state of affairs lol. Yes I wonder what it would be like if 300 years ago there were no guns. I wonder if things may have been better via less colonialization, less conquest of natives, less war. Interesting concept lol.

Just brilliant,why didn't I think of it. Just get rid of the doors in schools and there will be no more school shootings,they can't get in. Now that the problem is solved no need for gun control.

The doors have been killing too many students,when will it end.

Or even more brilliant, give every kid a gun starting in grade 6 to ensure everyone has a fighting chance lol. Actually those little door wedges would go along way in locking down the school . Arming the teachers is also a brilliant ideal, most of the teachers I had would either shoot themselves or a few innocent kids .

gjs4786 said:

For a gun advocate, talking about taking their guns away is going to get you no where fast...might as well threaten to take away their children. after all, its in the constitution, something that is nothing more than a relic these days anyway, that we have the right to bear arms, to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government....that has nuclear weapons, lol.

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Who is talking about taking your gunz away? Practically all the people who talk about "taking yer gunz 'way" are gun owners. Budley didn't say it either.

Aolelon said:

Because it's about freedom. It's about our constitutional rights. Our right to protect ourselves and not need to worry about needing anyone else for protection. I should have the right to protect my family, and myself, from any threat that might endanger my life or my family's.

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Yes you should and no one is saying take that away are they? Control does not equal confiscate. Home defence has been proven more effective using shotguns so why the need for handgun, what reasoning is there to own an assault rifle other than they look cool? I know you guys are all paranoid and shit about your guns being taken away but seriously. You still have not answered my question about the possibility of saving 2 thousand, or possibly more, lives and your thinking it’s not worth it.

Fogdog said:

Who is talking about taking your gunz away? Practically all the people who talk about "taking yer gunz 'way" are gun owners. Budley didn't say it either.

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I don't own any guns.

Budley Doright said:

Yes you should and no one is saying take that away are they? Control does not equal confiscate. Home defence has been proven more effective using shotguns so why the need for handgun, what reasoning is there to own an assault rifle other than they look cool? I know you guys are all paranoid and shit about your guns being taken away but seriously. You still have not answered my question about the possibility of saving 2 thousand, or possibly more, lives and your thinking it’s not worth it.

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No such thing as an assault rifle first of all, any weapon can be an assault weapon, if you assault someone with it. Second of all, you cant concealed carry a shotgun. Have you tried? Almost impossible to walk around with one. That's the reason for handguns, so I can be protected AT ALL TIMES, while keeping it concealed. Rifles are used for many things. One of them is to level the playing field. You act like nothing can ever happen to us as a society. We cant be attacked or threatened in the long run. I would rather have something and not need it, than need it and not have it. Wouldn't you?

also 2000 people is 0.000571428571% or less of the U.S. Population, so no it isn't worth it to me.
in fact gun deaths per year account for 0.0075% of the total U.S. Population. Pretty miniscule if you ask me.

Fogdog said:

Who is talking about taking your gunz away? Practically all the people who talk about "taking yer gunz 'way" are gun owners. Budley didn't say it either.

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LOL actually I said give everyone a gun, kind of like “assured mutual distruction” but I do see that this is like a flushing thread with no end in sight. And please everyone don’t take what I’m saying as I want guns banned ..... you’d have to pry them from my cold dead hands lol

gjs4786 said:

I don't own any guns.

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OK. Sorry you took that personally. Gun control advocates are not talking about taking guns away from peaceful people. The debate is whether or not to restrict sales and access to certain kinds of guns.

Aolelon said:

also 2000 people is 0.000571428571% or less of the U.S. Population, so no it isn't worth it to me.
in fact gun deaths per year account for 0.0075% of the total U.S. Population. Pretty miniscule if you ask me.

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That’s to bad that 2000 lives don’t mean anything to you..... very sad .

Budley Doright said:

That’s to bad that 2000 lives don’t mean anything to you..... very sad .

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I never said they didn't mean anything. I said its not worth it to me. To give up my guns.

Aolelon said:

No such thing as an assault rifle first of all, any weapon can be an assault weapon, if you assault someone with it. Second of all, you cant concealed carry a shotgun. Have you tried? Almost impossible to walk around with one. That's the reason for handguns, so I can be protected AT ALL TIMES, while keeping it concealed. Rifles are used for many things. One of them is to level the playing field. You act like nothing can ever happen to us as a society. We cant be attacked or threatened in the long run. I would rather have something and not need it, than need it and not have it. Wouldn't you?

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Yup sad state of affairs that you need to carry at all times to feel safe. Nope I don’t feel the need to carry to feel safe. 60 years and never once wished I had a handgun, well again except bear hunting with my bow lol.

Fogdog said:

OK. Sorry you took that personally. Gun control advocates are not talking about taking guns away from peaceful people. The debate is whether or not to restrict sales and access to certain kinds of guns.

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I didn't take anything personal, why are you getting ahead of yourself?

Slow down chief