First Timer - Do I need to Flush my plants?

BLUNTED4REAL

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antman i understand what your saying and i truley agree, if you cure it right it doesnt make a diffeence at all in my opinion, i did an outdoor grow with 5 different starins and about 4 or more plants of each one, flushed half of each strain and keep feeding the other hlaf and after harvesting,drying,and curing, you couldnt tell them apart
 

Antman

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antman i understand what your saying and i truley agree, if you cure it right it doesnt make a diffeence at all in my opinion, i did an outdoor grow with 5 different starins and about 4 or more plants of each one, flushed half of each strain and keep feeding the other hlaf and after harvesting,drying,and curing, you couldnt tell them apart
There are some ppl on RIU who just repeat what they hear, and there are others who actually do the work that it takes to find the answers. You and I must be among the few that have done a comparison grow with and without flushing, and KNOW what the outcome was. Thanks for chiming in, but unfortunately, I think there are still gonna be plenty of doubters who will follow the "Pied Piper":wall:
 

trichopath

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iv not done it side by side but sometimes im a bit of a lazy ass stoner and dont get around to things, so iv flushed and iv not flushed and tbh all the end products were of similar quality. now i just do plain water for my last two feeds. A slow dry and cure is essential! i consider it almost as important as planting the seed. lol it took me a few grows before i finally managed to properly cure some of my weed before chonging it all. but honestly iv never looked back. cure cure cure an cure some more with a lil bit extra cure thrown in with some more cure.
 

Antman

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iv not done it side by side but sometimes im a bit of a lazy ass stoner and dont get around to things, so iv flushed and iv not flushed and tbh all the end products were of similar quality. now i just do plain water for my last two feeds. A slow dry and cure is essential! i consider it almost as important as planting the seed. lol it took me a few grows before i finally managed to properly cure some of my weed before chonging it all. but honestly iv never looked back. cure cure cure an cure some more with a lil bit extra cure thrown in with some more cure.
You got it bro! The slow dry and the cure is the key. If both are done correctly, like I said in my first post, that is what makes for great tasting, smooth, quality buds. :bigjoint:
 

SlikWiLL13

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antman, let me ask you, do you grow organic in soil? because i have heard that organic required little to no flush. i use chem ferts in RW and still feel my herb is better flushed. on more than one occsion i have run out and been forced to take "casualty" buds. now i know that drying them quickly wrecks the taste, but the further into my flush i get the better they taste. i have never done a side by side because i keep my numbers under 5 but this is proof enough for me. if your way works for you then great, mine works for me.
 

Consciousness420

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The real purpose for flushing is to purge the soil of excess salts that have built up in the soil from the chemical changes that occur in the soil/fertilizer/water mix in the pot... you can get an electronic ppm and ph measure device which will let you know if your soil is salty, acidic or alkaline.. etc which will allow you to determine if you need to flush.
If you do flush, just simply take some room temperature distilled water (twice the volume of the container) and carefully flood the pot with the water allowing it to drain evenly and flood the entire soil mix.
 

rezo

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i feed every watering and flush heavy for the last two weeks with pure water feed the reccomended amount and you wont burn your plant
 

rezo

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flushing a plant forces it to feed off itself and produce its highest levels of thc and it removes the chemicals from the bud for a smoother smoke. i have done these comparisons and the flushed weed has always been a little better. i also go an extra week on all strains to ensure best quality. if youre selling then you probably wont care but if its your bud or you just take pride in your growing youll flush em
 

Antman

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antman, let me ask you, do you grow organic in soil? because i have heard that organic required little to no flush. i use chem ferts in RW and still feel my herb is better flushed. on more than one occsion i have run out and been forced to take "casualty" buds. now i know that drying them quickly wrecks the taste, but the further into my flush i get the better they taste. i have never done a side by side because i keep my numbers under 5 but this is proof enough for me. if your way works for you then great, mine works for me.
Yes, I always grow organically in soil, and so is the kid who started this thread. Maybe that's the reason you feel like you need to flush, if you're growing in something other than soil. I answered his question because he said he grows in soil. If he said he was growing hydro or something else I wouldn't have even joined in. I have never done anything other than soil grows and know very little about other grow mediums. For all I know, hydroponically grown pot could very well need to be flushed, but none of my soil grows, except the first one, have been flushed. As far as doing what works for ourselves, I'm with you on that. We're all working towards the same goal:weed:. That's the great thing about RIU.
 

SlikWiLL13

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i would recomend at least a short flush if hes using chem ferts with his soil. and im with you on the long cure thing too
 

Antman

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flushing a plant forces it to feed off itself and produce its highest levels of thc and it removes the chemicals from the bud for a smoother smoke. i have done these comparisons and the flushed weed has always been a little better. i also go an extra week on all strains to ensure best quality. if youre selling then you probably wont care but if its your bud or you just take pride in your growing youll flush em
I'm not a botonist or any kind of expert on plants, but I don't think that a plant that is forced to feed on itself, rather than being able to have what it needs to grow readily available, will reach it's optimum levels. Just the way I see it. Secondly, once a plant takes in ferts through it's roots, those ferts are processed into sugars and other shit the plant needs to grow long before they reach the buds. I don't think a plant uptakes Phosphorus from the soil and sends it right to the bud sites, it's changed into useable sources of food before it travels up the plant, I think. Check it out in the Growfaqs. And last but not least, I take more pride in my grows than probably anyone on here, and I'll tell you why. You see, I don't smoke. You're probably saying "Bullshit" right about now, huh? It's the truth, whether you or anybody else wants to believe it. I grow for the simple fact that I LOVE the way Marijuana plants look, smell, and just grow. It's just amazing to me and I think they are the most beautiful plant GOD ever put on this Earth for us to enjoy. The only reward I get, other than watching my ladies grow and flourish, is seeing other ppl enjoy the fruits of my labors(free of charge), and for me that's payment enough. :leaf:
 

panhead

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I posted this before on numerous occasions, so I'll just copy and paste it here for you.
"I was gonna write that this info I'm giving you was "my opinion", but it's not my opinion, it's a fact. You don't need to flush your plant to get great tasting, super smooth smoke from your plant. I myself, along with NUMEROUS, other long time, extremely knowledgable growers on this site(and other sites also), NEVER, EVER flush. As long as you dry your buds right, and then cure them right, you'll have the best smoke you've ever packed in your bowl. In fact, I'll even go as far as to say that if you do flush, your plants will take longer to finish up. Here's the way I see it. The one time I flushed my plant(b4 RIU existed, when I was a noobie, and went by what some others said), my plant seemed to suffer more than anything. It started to droop, and the leaves all started turning yellow. Yes, some leaves will die and turn yellow towards the end of flowering, but not like mine did and expeditiously following the flush. A flowering plant needs food to produce the biggest, bestest buds possible, especially in the end when it's finishing up. If you strip the grow medium of the essential nutrients that your plant is using, it's gonna suffer. No two ways about it. I feed my plants right up to a week before harvest, and I've been told on more than 100 occasions, lol, that my stuff is the smoothest they've ever had. I've done the test to see if there was a difference, and there wasn't. Flushed one plant(same strain and grow times, etc.) and left the other one alone, and you would never be able to tell the difference between the two."
Damm skippy,flushing is just another case of people wanting to believe in something,it must be better for the plant because im doing something,right ?

Flushing soil grows is a complete waste of time & not needed.

I'd bet money there isnt oner person on this site that could tell the difference between flushed & non flushed if they were handed 2 joints from somebody else, then told to smoke & identify which was which 6 times out of 10,no matter how much a connasuer they consider theirself.
 

panhead

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There are some ppl on RIU who just repeat what they hear, and there are others who actually do the work that it takes to find the answers.
There are a quite a few who run different grows & try new things but most get tired of arguing all the time with people who read then repeat as fact,its all part of the bobble head syndrome.

You'll never convince them either,somewhere here in this thread one guy even claims it produces more thc from flushing :wall:.

And for all the guys who claim they have done proper testing with both methods a proper test consists of this.

The weed.

Both flushed & non flushed must be grown exactly the same method,this includes same size pot,same nutrients,same length of grow,same harvest date & same durration of cure,nothing can be changed between the two.

Test subjects must not touch,see or roll the weed,they must not know what weed is flushed & what weed isnt flushed,they get zero information including knowing that there are differences in the weed,all they are to know is that you want to know if one weed tastes better,smokes better or gets them higher over the other one,if any claims of better quality are pointed out they must pick correctly 6 times out of 10 which was which,any deviation voids any validity to the test.

Any grower who has taken their own test with their own weed is biased because they know to much & have a vested interest in the outcome.
 

Antman

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Damm skippy,flushing is just another case of people wanting to believe in something,it must be better for the plant because im doing something,right ?

Flushing soil grows is a complete waste of time & not needed.

I'd bet money there isnt oner person on this site that could tell the difference between flushed & non flushed if they were handed 2 joints from somebody else, then told to smoke & identify which was which 6 times out of 10,no matter how much a connasuer they consider theirself.
AAAHHHHHHHHHH!! Like a breath of freash air. Finally some growers with clout come with the confirmation. By clout I mean that they have been around a while, and ppl know their info to be reputable. Not to say that the other ppl that agreed with me shouldn't be regarded as "in the know" as well. Thanks for chiming in Panhead.
 

Antman

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There are a quite a few who run different grows & try new things but most get tired of arguing all the time with people who read then repeat as fact,its all part of the bobble head syndrome.

You'll never convince them either,somewhere here in this thread one guy even claims it produces more thc from flushing :wall:.

And for all the guys who claim they have done proper testing with both methods a proper test consists of this.

The weed.

Both flushed & non flushed must be grown exactly the same method,this includes same size pot,same nutrients,same length of grow,same harvest date & same durration of cure,nothing can be changed between the two.

Test subjects must not touch,see or roll the weed,they must not know what weed is flushed & what weed isnt flushed,they get zero information including knowing that there are differences in the weed,all they are to know is that you want to know if one weed tastes better,smokes better or gets them higher over the other one,if any claims of better quality are pointed out they must pick correctly 6 times out of 10 which was which,any deviation voids any validity to the test.

Any grower who has taken their own test with their own weed is biased because they know to much & have a vested interest in the outcome.
I agree completely! If you read what I wrote two posts ago, you'll see that I pretty much do just that. Since I don't smoke, just grow, I rely solely on what my friends tell me. When I did my experiment, I did exactly what you said. I only have one room that I grow in so they were both in that room and never moved. Same strain from the same batch of seeds I bought, they were right next to each other throughout the entire grow, they were fed the same amounts at the same time, vegged for the same length of time, put into flower at the same minute, flowered under the same light and harvested at the same times. The only difference was that I flushed the one two weeks before harvest and fed the other one til the end. Dried together in the same temps and humidity levels, and cured for the same amount of time. Gave one of my best bros a bowl of the one, and then the other. I told him they were different plants, and for him to tell me which one was better. Guess what his answer was? He couldn't tell them apart. Tried it with my real blood brother and two other friends, same result. I don't know if there's anything else I could have done to make it any more unbiased, but that was enough for me to draw my conclussion. Peace...out!
 
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