First Journal and First Grow.

DragonsBreath

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Okay so after so so so long, I have come back to share my dream with u all. I have planted a seed, my first ever a while ago, and let it veg for about (10-12 (edit) weeks. Then I set into flower about a month ago. I hope you all enjoy the pics and tell me what do you all think.

Seed comes from a bag of some "Afgan Goo" was the only seed in the bag, and the bud was great. Got lucky on the $20 I got, first time I got a seed from some good shit like that in ages. So this time i decided to plant it.

After about 30 days she has a amazing smell from the oils when u touch the buds or the bud leaves and smell ur fingers it seems like a lot like sour diesel, or a really sweet kush hard to put my finger on still. The growth looks sativa like and I know sour is more in that bracket then the kush. Hope you all enjoy the pics, and I will be up to date.

Once again thank you all for the info u have passed along to make my dreams so vivid.

Veg under cfls 2 cool 120 watt floods and with flowering I added 3 cfl warms up top and put blue under.

All info and feed back is appreciated, any questions comments or jobs im here to help. LoL
 

DragonsBreath

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30 Days Old: I am showing my pruning, fimming, and stem removal. The 2 bottoms were higher then the tops but that quickly changed. We all learn, next time there will be a difference. Should I keep the bottom 2 stems or is it to late to remove maybe, or would it be a good idea?
 

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DragonsBreath

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Also, info on what i did, I planted in organic soil, no fertilizer. Once she was larger i fed with some mirical grow fertilizer. When she was ready to flower I transplanted with all its soil and added mirical grow soil all around to fill in the new larger container. I then switched from mirical nut to ff nutes. Just the standard 3 and kept to that. Container I have has its own reservoir underneath about 3 inches that has dips to let soil and roots reach into the water to keep it moist.

I know people said that mirical grow can cause over feeding and nut burn, but I decided it will only get the MG after it has grown more and it will introduce itself to it a little at a time and hopefully provide it with anything extra she may need.

I am running into a slight bug problem I have those little nat looking things around the plant. None are ever on the ;eaves, and I kill as many as I can. I have let the soil dry out on top and have treated the area around the plant with bug spray. It hasn't gotten out of control but im tired of the daily examining and killing of bugs. Any cheap ideas to rid them and what is needed to prevent this?

reps?
 

desertrat

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got a few ideas on your grow i'll post next. but..

the reason you're not getting many responses is because your posts are too early in the day. they get buried by newer posts and nobody sees them. try posting or bumping your post between 6pm and midnight eastern standard time
 

desertrat

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so, great first grow, especially with cfls compared to others on this site.

comments:

it looks like you've shelved the 1000 hps for this grow? that light is more than you need (something rarely heard on riu) and will be a real pain to try and cool even with a vented hood. without one or a/c you are dead.

your comments about pruning concerned me a little. there are only a couple of ways to prune right and a million ways to mess it up. can you be specific on what you did?
 

DragonsBreath

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yeah, i steralized a scissor and i cut leaves that were drying out and or blocking bud sites. since i'm only using cfls i figuerd i don't need many fan leaves since im controling the temp of the closet. if you look at the internodes or stems i removed in that one pic, where I have two lower stems rising and the other 6 above, u can see i removed 2 whole levels and left the lower because it was taller then the rest when i fimmed and assumed it would be okay, but it was quickly out grown.
 

desertrat

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i cut leaves that were drying out and or blocking bud sites. since i'm only using cfls i figuerd i don't need many fan leaves since im controling the temp of the closet. .
read all of this thread re pruning https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/104638-before-after-pics-ouch.html - there is an on and off debate between me and fdd regarding pruning. i took the pro side, he took the negative. he has decades more experience than i do so you should take his comments to heart,

that said -.

1. never prune to expose bud sites; the buds don't absord much of the light directly, the leaves do. cut leaves = smaller buds. really.

2. never prune during flowering. you will get smaller buds.

3. never prune a leaf just because its starting to yellow. it is providing energy as long as there is any green left. personally, i prune dying leaves by pulling gently with my hand. if the leaf comes off, it comes off.

4. don't understand your comment regarding lights and fan leaves.

5. pruning does work for manipulating the shape of the plant to fit your grow area and lighting setup
 

DragonsBreath

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What I was trying to say, is my heat source was low, from 75-85 max on scorching days and we are beyond that. So the way i looked at it was the plant doesn't need as many leaves to keep it self cool and it can focus just on buds. Not pruning during flower I can understand as to not take energy to heal during that crucial time.



EDIT:
I been pruning since the start almost, and did a few days ago when taking those pics, but only 2 or 3 leaves. You say the cfl is going better then other people maybe that has to do with less leaves?
 

desertrat

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if my high school biology is right then i get that leaves cool off the plant by respiration of moisture - but their most important purpose is to convert light energy to plant sugars. remove a leaf, remove an energy generator for the whole plant.

i know there is a lot of info on pruning weed. but little of it has been independently checked because of obvious legal hurdles. i can easily believe you have read many reasons and strategies for pruning. ask fdd, most of them are for shit.

this is kinda a funny thread because i really believe in pruning but done wrong it just hurts your plant.
 

DragonsBreath

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im sure it could hurt your plant if done wrong and i agree, i never went to over board at one time. Also i agree with leaves in the vegging stage, they are best for that because they help the plant grow and give it what it needs.

When flowering tho, your buds tend to grow and go into action at night, when the leaves aren't even doing much work besides providing some sugars. Hence the amazing aroma that kicks out the closet when the lights are off. Some people even leave there plants in darkness for 2 days before harvest, or reduce the light more and more right before because it is said to really maximize bud growth, but that also opens up so many questions.
In a controlled inviorment or just indoors a plant wont reach its full potential. We keep it dwarfed, so why should we keep all the leaves if we aren't even going to let it maximize. I agree leaves are needed, but not as many as people may think, that just being my opinion.


food for thought:
What if the leaves need light and the buds don't? Should create a tool that covers the entire plant minus the leaves sticking out and see what happens. Maybe get the best of both day and night in a 24 hour cycle. (me being stoned):bigjoint:
 

KingJMS

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Interesting thought on the plant cover...but it seems like that'd increase humidity around your bud, which, to my unexperienced mind, seems bad.

But know this: where there's a will, there's a way. If you figure it out, you'll be the cat that takes RIU mainstream... 'i remember when he was growing popcorn with cfl's...'

Beyond that, your grow looks pretty cool. I'm a novice, but from what I gather about you, you're a reasearcher, too.

My reasearch says: don't underlight the plants.

I'm making a pleasant place for some plants. I was going to paint it all white, even the floor...but then I read in Jorge Cervantes's Bible, the underside of the leaves do not have the same photosynthesis receptors. On the underside of the leaves are the stomata which do the transpiration for the plant...so don't paint the floor white.

It looks like you managed to not kill that bagseed weed, so I guess it's not the bane of marijuana...but I can't help but think that the plant looks a little skinny.

May I inquire as to your yield and quality?

Also, the calyxs (?) seem like they're way long...they're pretty, but they've grown way beyond the compactness of the bud area...almost like they're streeeeetching for some reason...trying to get pollinated - like a blackroots bar around cutoff time...

I've heard that was a sign of stress, but I forgot from what. Perhaps an OG will catch your post at the top of the mount and hand you the stone tablets containing the ten commandments of chronic.

Peace
 
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