First grow, 3-9 plants (if possible), how many cfl's, 2ft squared and 5 feet tall.

Hey, so ima just get strate to it and would really appriciate ALL your tips and advice and comments.

So, the area im planning to grow in is a tall kitchen cabinet lol. we have extra 1's and the 1 i picked seem to be best. so its divided by 2 sections the cabinet. its 2 feet squared (2 feet widex2 feet in lenght) and its 5 feet tall. i was planning to grow my plants in that section, the other section is on top of it, its 2 feet squared also bu only 3 feet tall. i was planning to have all my wireing up there and nute.'s and whatever else.

So, on the bottom section i was planing on puting 3 rows of 3 witch would be a total of 9 plants. i think this sounds like its going to be majorly squished? would it be bad if the plants would be squished? or should i just do 4 plants? or how many would you recommend?

So, with that said. I have a small fan that works very well that i was planning to place inside that would run 24hr.s and probably hang it from the top asuming there would be no space from the bottom.

Then, i wont to use CFL's. so today i went out 2 OSH and bought 6 CFL's. but im pritty stupid ahaa becasue there 23watts each with 5500K. but the reason i bought them was becasue in alot of reviews ive read so far about CFL's says that the watts arnt the main thing, that its mainly about the lumens it procuse's. An each bulb produce's 1400 lumens (1380 lumens exactly) and what ive researched so far is that you would wont about 3000 lumens per square foot. and with the 6 cfls thats 8280 lumens being pushed out all together. is that fine? or would you recommend somthing else? would it produce more heat? i was planning on going tmrw and returning them and getting higher wattage bulbs. but all the higher wattage bulbs were 2500K or 2700K and i will get those but only for flowering and iwont vegbulbs rite now. so with that said what would you recommed?

Im planning on putting reflective mylar all over inside. OHHH, also i seen this 19.99 carbon filter at home depot and im thinking about just getting it to give it a try and placeing it somewere in side the grow part of the cabinet to see if it helps. my mom knows ima grow but not my dad ahaa so i still have to hide it from him.

Yeah i know that the cabinet is going to be VERYYY packed inside. i was planning on doing a SCROG, placing a screen ontop after the veg is done or a week before im nto 2 sure wen o place it im just esstimating. so overall how stupid am i in this soon setup? what should i change add or remove?

ALL HELP IS APPRICIATED AND ADVICE.

thanksss jesse

You could build it in stages inside the tall cabinet, maybe 2 or 3 levels of plants, build it in stair formation i dunno.. Should be lots you can do with such a place.. Id sugest, scrog..

if you have 9 plants (id say) you need more than six bulbs

That's a bit squished for that many plants. If you really want to grow that many in that amount of space, I suggest plant on the Indica side as they tend to be shorter and bushy instead of tall. Even then I'd suggest maybe 5 plants max...With that tight a space ventilation will be VERY important. I currently have 7 plants thriving off of three 26W CFL, so I think you'll be fine.

you would need 1 bulb per plant and double for flowering...........also its all about how you arrange the lights put them in a way that 1 bulb is within 3 inches of two plants. or colas. thats how you get the maximum use out of them

also start off with like 6 after they show sex and you got the males out hopfully youll have 3 or 4 females.................remember 10 plants in a space produce about the same as two plants in that same amount of space (thise arent exact figures but you get the picture)unless your doing sea of green or somtype of tranning

lowrider2000 said:

you would need 1 bulb per plant and double for flowering...........also its all about how you arrange the lights put them in a way that 1 bulb is within 3 inches of two plants. or colas. thats how you get the maximum use out of them

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That quite a lot of light, I'm sure growing wise you can get away with less considering my current set-up is growing amazingly on 3 bulbs for 7 plants.

Have you flowered yet? During veg they dont need anything for light. Once they start flowering those buggers start soaking up light. Even doing 1 light per plant 12/12 from seed is super tough. You'd more than likely be better of doing 1-2 bushier lstd plants, especially in only 4 square feet. I'm working with like 3.8 square feet and even only having two, space is limited on good days.

Fuzzbutter said:

That quite a lot of light, I'm sure growing wise you can get away with less considering my current set-up is growing amazingly on 3 bulbs for 7 plants.

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i can get away with allot you can grow 4 plant with one bulb if you want.... but thats the diff between getting a qouarter qounce from 7 plants and getting 2 ounces per plant the more light the better and too much is never enuf you should consider getting some y splitters and turning those 3 lights into 6 light pm me and tell me if you see a diff............you got pixx btw...these are only week 1 of flower i have 8 26 watt bulbs and 1 43 watt they are LST'ed one has like 5 main colas and the other has 4

Well I grow mostly for fun and I don't smoke all that much, so...a half oz would last me at least a month. Off topic though, but growing 2 plants to one bulb would seem a good compromise on space/heat/light/ventilation requirements while also producing a decent amount of bud.

half ounce of of 7 plants is a waste of time................. why dont you grow 1 plant with three light and get an ounce or two from it just an idea tho

Too much light from CFLs? Has a cannabis plant had that problem ever? Haha well probably, but I'm sure it is exceedingly difficult without bulb to leaf contact. Light is the limiting factor in the majority of indoor gardens, and I would bet that percentage greatly increases for CFL grows. This is why SCROG should be a given for most CFL growers. It's the easiest way to keep the most possible canopy area within the productive range of the light.

That said, I'd shoot for at least around 60 watts per square foot to flower it with a properly managed canopy. The plant numbers really depend a lot on the medical laws in your area, and the medium you want to grow with. With the SCROG you are turning the plant to 12/12 when they fill around 60% of the canopy (strain dependent), so increasing the plant numbers decreases the veg stage growth time by filling in the canopy quicker. Also, I would suggest setting the screen from the very beginning (between 8"-10" from base of plant) since you will obviously want to be doing this from clones.

scrog is what ima do my next grow ive done topping regular and LST' so far lst is the best for me at least.................its almost impossible to give a plant too much light itll cost you a fortune........the only thing that happens if you put allot of light is a higher yield......they really dont use much electricity so i don't get what the problem is.......wouldn't you hate to have a weak harvest and know that if you would have only invested $30 more and gotten a shit load of lights you could have yielded way more and not have light nuggs...........

Thank you everybody for the quick responce's, i gave you all reps! Thanksss will drop by in another psot with the results hopefully sooner then i think! Thankss!!

lowrider2000 said:

half ounce of of 7 plants is a waste of time................. why dont you grow 1 plant with three light and get an ounce or two from it just an idea tho

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Because I'm waiting on my new lights as we speak . And I will be getting WAY more than 1/2 oz, all my plants already have more than one main cola and are LST'd, I think my harvest will be good

youngjess: LUCK!!

Fuzzbutter said:

Because I'm waiting on my new lights as we speak . And I will be getting WAY more than 1/2 oz, all my plants already have more than one main cola and are LST'd, I think my harvest will be good

youngjess: LUCK!!

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what lights you gettin?

Just 3 more CFL's. Hopefully getting an HPS for budding if I can afford one. If not...oh well.

Fuzzbutter said:

Well I grow mostly for fun and I don't smoke all that much, so...a half oz would last me at least a month. Off topic though, but growing 2 plants to one bulb would seem a good compromise on space/heat/light/ventilation requirements while also producing a decent amount of bud.

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what kinda bulb are u talking about to grow 2 plants with?

For 3-9 plants you want to achive between 500 and 1000 real watts so as many CFLs as it takes to get that. You like looking at around 4-6 T5 36-48" and then another 6-12 bulbs.

6500k for veg
2700k for flower