First ever wardrobe grow.

And check out my autoflower I've been growing. It's about two and a half months old. I know, I know, doesn't look like much, but I planted it very late in terms of weather conditions. And I also nipped a few branches here and there to see what the taste is like.

I'll be giving her the chop today. I have no idea what the colours of the trichomes are, but due to unforseen events I cannot wait any longer.

I'll be happy if I get 10g off of her, but that's probably pushing it.

whats the strain of that autoflower?

DankTankerous said:

whats the strain of that autoflower?

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It's a Jack Herer. Something around 75+% sativa, although pure JH are I think 100% sativas. So far when I was doing "test runs" I felt no characteristics of a sativa high, but then again, the drying was done in an oven... I hope that after a nice curing the potential is going to show.

Update: after not even a whole day of drying, the main bud shrank in size. The enviroment is not the best when it comes to humidity, I think it's very low. But the temps are spot on. 70F.

I hang the whole plant upside down, so that most of the moisture ventures from the stems to the buds. I read that it helps if your drying enviroment is too... dry.

All righty then, smallest stems snap when I bend them, but the big boys still have a bit of flex in them.. time to start curing. Took me less then four days... rubbish enviroment for drying. The buds on the outside feel dry, but not brittle. I'll get to it in the evening.

Today marks three weeks. Damn, time flies. Anyway, she's not looking bad, although she could probably do better in more optimum conditions.

I added some blue spectrum cfls to the place, that should help. On the next grow I'll get a MH light for veg. This bulb is good, but as the progress shows, specific lights for specific stages are the best.

Nice FAT leaves, looks good !

Gregor Eisenhorn said:

Right, sorry about that. Like I said, the whole thing isn't ready.

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Haha Kurt Cobain? "Rather be dead than cool"

Gregor Eisenhorn said:

So I've coated the panels three times with white paint. Again, I hope I used the right one because in Poland no one knows what "flat" paint is... it's called matte paint sometimes, so that's what I bought.
I can always buy some mylar if I change my mind. + the hood for the HPS has the best refectivity out there so I'm not that worried.

In a few hours I'll cut a 150mm hole in the top panel for the fan and put the whole thing together.

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Matte= flat not glossy or shiny

Love all the posts and info, I'll be following closely seeing as this is the type of stealth room I'm gonna do soon. Maybe the Hempy way though. It seems like and easy hydroish way with great results

FilthyBud said:

Love all the posts and info, I'll be following closely seeing as this is the type of stealth room I'm gonna do soon. Maybe the Hempy way though. It seems like and easy hydroish way with great results

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Thanks a lot mate, really appreciate it. Good luck with your build, keep us posted. Hempy way seems really good, I'll be going DWC soon.

I try to put as much information/doubts/questions, for all those new growers like me out there. That way they can learn from my mistakes and pull as much information as they want to. I remember when I was starting out, I really needed a step by step/comparison type post (still do).

I've been thinking about why my girl is growing so slowly. Most growers one month old plants a two-three times bigger than my one at the moment. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this, as a good old google search didn't help much.
What I've been able to come up with:

Moisture: the air is very dry in my cabinet. The humidity gauge just says Low, which means it's probably around 10%. The problem is, a lot of people have mixed feelings when it comes to the importance of humidity. Some (and I believe them, because this was in my biology class) claim that low humidity causes the stomata to close in order to preserve as much moisture as possible. That impedes the intake and outtake of C02 and 02. While this could be the problem, A LOT of growers dismiss this and claim, as they have fantastic results regardless of RH.
Now I have been trying all the tricks to raise the humidity (towels, cups of water, air bubblers (closest I'll get to hydro atm) etc.) but none of them seem to work. I thought that maybe my humidity gauge was broken, but that's not the case. I might just have to spend some dosh and get myself a proper humidifier...

Over/underwatering: probably not the case. I water every few days when the soil is dry inch deep. My girl has never shown signs of stress from that.

Root bound: I can see the roots growing everyday, but none of them seem to be poking through the holes yet. It's not that cramped in there. Too early to transplant?

Lights: I've been having doubts on whether or not this could be causing the growth. Dual spectrums are loved and hated by growers. Some claim that there is not enough blue light for the veg, while others state (and I have seen their journals) that dual specs do their job as they should with no problems... again, 50/50 when it comes to opinions. Generally everyone agress that MH lights beat dual specs, but only slightly, and pure HPS are not for vegging.

Temps: they stay around 25-30 celsius so that's fine.

Air: the fan is good enough for my cab, the cfm's all add up. I allow lots of fresh air to enter the whole room everyday.

Nutes: the all mix is loaded with nutrients and some growers say that you don't need anything for well over 4 weeks. Possibly.. but to completely eliminate this problem, I'll add some nutes when I transplant, starting off VERY lightly and see if that helps.

Genetics: if this is the case, I'll never fully know, but Biohazard Seeds seem legit.

Apart from that, I can't think of anything else. As always when something is wrong, I am a little concerned, as I would love to fix all issues before I introduce my new plant in it's hydro setup.

The only things I can do at the moment are transplanting in a few days and adding nutes after transplanting. If that doesn't help, then it could be moisture.

I'll keep everyone posted....

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I've been thinking about why my girl is growing so slowly. Most growers one month old plants a two-three times bigger than my one at the moment. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this, as a good old google search didn't help much.
What I've been able to come up with:

Moisture: the air is very dry in my cabinet. The humidity gauge just says Low, which means it's probably around 10%. The problem is, a lot of people have mixed feelings when it comes to the importance of humidity. Some (and I believe them, because this was in my biology class) claim that low humidity causes the stomata to close in order to preserve as much moisture as possible. That impedes the intake and outtake of C02 and 02. While this could be the problem, A LOT of growers dismiss this and claim, as they have fantastic results regardless of RH.
Now I have been trying all the tricks to raise the humidity (towels, cups of water, air bubblers (closest I'll get to hydro atm) etc.) but none of them seem to work. I thought that maybe my humidity gauge was broken, but that's not the case. I might just have to spend some dosh and get myself a proper humidifier...

Over/underwatering: probably not the case. I water every few days when the soil is dry inch deep. My girl has never shown signs of stress from that.

Root bound: I can see the roots growing everyday, but none of them seem to be poking through the holes yet. It's not that cramped in there. Too early to transplant?

Lights: I've been having doubts on whether or not this could be causing the growth. Dual spectrums are loved and hated by growers. Some claim that there is not enough blue light for the veg, while others state (and I have seen their journals) that dual specs do their job as they should with no problems... again, 50/50 when it comes to opinions. Generally everyone agress that MH lights beat dual specs, but only slightly, and pure HPS are not for vegging.

Temps: they stay around 25-30 celsius so that's fine.

Air: the fan is good enough for my cab, the cfm's all add up. I allow lots of fresh air to enter the whole room everyday.

Nutes: the all mix is loaded with nutrients and some growers say that you don't need anything for well over 4 weeks. Possibly.. but to completely eliminate this problem, I'll add some nutes when I transplant, starting off VERY lightly and see if that helps.

Genetics: if this is the case, I'll never fully know, but Biohazard Seeds seem legit.

Apart from that, I can't think of anything else. As always when something is wrong, I am a little concerned, as I would love to fix all issues before I introduce my new plant in it's hydro setup.

The only things I can do at the moment are transplanting in a few days and adding nutes after transplanting. If that doesn't help, then it could be moisture.

I'll keep everyone posted....

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Hey, good information, way to test everything and use results to solve,, how about showing us a picture of whats going on, the plant, and back up and take another showing the whole box ,, with light spacing, I forgot how many watts your using in there also

The spacing is about 35cm so that's more or less 13 inches. The bulb is 250W. So I think it has nothing to do with the bulb.

I wetted the new soil, to get all that microflora active. Tomorrow I'll be transplanting in the evening.

The sixth node is developing.

*hits heads* I'll check the pH of the soil for any lockouts, but Bio bizz soil already has adjusted pH.

All right, so I moved my plant to a bigger pot, not too big mind you. I'm starting to think the problrm is with my temps... they swing too much, during the day they can be as high as 29C (not too high) but then when I open the boiler room door to get some fresh, autumn air, the temps drop to 21C... looks like that could be one of my problems. Now I thought I was doing the plant a favour, but I over did it. Next time I'll just open the door for a short time. The temps normally stay around 25-27C. I don't even want to think about whats going on in the night. So, in a few days hopefully the plant will get used to the new pot AND I'll wait until the soil is completely bone dry. So hopefully that will set things straight.

If all goes well, I'll assume the main culprits were: temperature swings (!!), not enough space for the roots (I was happy when I saw that "bundle" when I took the plant out of its previous pot), not enough nutes (?).

Best way to learn is to make mistakes eh?

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Best way to learn is to make mistakes eh?

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'Mistakes' is my middle name.

So looks like something is imporving (aww yiss)! The seventh and eight node have appeared and the sixth one is fattening up. Next time I'll repot earlier and start adding nutrients at week three. Although it's a shame I won't be doing any more soil grows haha.

Hopefully in a few days when the soil gets nice and dry and the roots get more oxygen, things will start to boom. Until that happens I won't be doing any kind od traning, although I've been thinking about FIM'ing and scrogging her. (i'll do the same with my hydro plant).

Been mucking around a bit trying to figure out the hardness of my tap water in anticipation of the upcoming DWC setup. Turns out it's classified as "medium hard" here in Poland... So basically after going on wikipedia etc:

"Parts per million (ppm) is usually defined as 1 mg/L CaCO3 (the definition used below).[19] It is equivalent to mg/L without chemical compound specified, and to American degree."

So if I understood that correctly 1 ppm = 1 mg/L CaCO3 (?)

So, I have checked and in one litre of water there is around 218-256 mg of CaCO3 in the water that runs through my taps. -------> so that's 218-256 ppm... that calls for flora micro hard water!

So I finally got myself a himidifier. About bloody time I might add.

The thing produces a good cold mist, that actually lowered the temperatures by around 4 degrees, so that's nice. But what's better is that the humidity in the grow box in the morning was 48%! WTF, I've never seen such a number on my humidity gauge haha.

I'm trying to find out the best place to put the humidifier. Inside the growbox doesn't work, because the mist gets blown away by the oscillating fan (and without the fan the temps will rise drastically), although I'll try one more time... the higher the temp the more moisture...

For the whole night I had the mist being sucked in by my passive intake and that seemed to work up to the magic 48%, but a small puddle formed inside of the intake.

As of now I plonked the humidifier just outside of the grow box and I'll see if I can get the RH up in the entire room. Moist air in room will travel into the growbox, although I don't anticipate anything higher than 40...

The room is about give or take 12m2 and my humidifier works up to 16m2 so I should be right as rain, but it's probably going to take a day until that happens.

I take it that it is very arid and dry in your region?