First Ever Grow - Stealth PC Easy Ryder Bubbleponics

aggreenvln said:

Hi everyone, here's a nightly update!

Not much to report today. Here are my levels:

pH: 5.9
PPM: 620

I was planning on flushing my nute solution today, but before I brewed up new nutes I checked the reservoir pH to find that it was still below 6 (my expectation was around 6.5). No need to adjust pH or flush solution tonight after all!

I'll be stopping by the homebrew shop today to pick up some yeast for CO2 addition. I will update further when I figure out the details.

As usual, let's end it with some pictures. The root system has grown significantly since just yesterday!
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Nice roots.. their gonna be huge

electropyro said:

Nice roots.. their gonna be huge

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Thanks, electro .

I just finished a nute flush. I decided to go with 1/4 strength veg nutes this time. The recipe per 2L is 1.3mL FloraMicro, 2mL FloraGro, .66mL FloraBloom. This left me with a PPM of 550 and pH of 5.5 after adjustments. This PPM seems a bit high to start, but I'm fairly confident the plant can handle it especially with the addition of the CO2 generator. It has only been in the case for a few hours but I think she's already loving it.

pH: 5.5
PPM: 550

Pictures:

How big is ur net pot? i think i should get a ppm meter. never used one. i just add the nutes according to the instructions and check my PH level and astonishing its always around 5.8 and 6.0. I like the leafs their nice and wide.

electropyro said:

How big is ur net pot? i think i should get a ppm meter. never used one. i just add the nutes according to the instructions and check my PH level and astonishing its always around 5.8 and 6.0. I like the leafs their nice and wide.

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I'm using a 3" net pot. I'd definitely recommend a PPM meter! The one I use is HM Digital TDS-4 and I have no complaints so far. I payed $27 for it on Amazon. I wish my pH was as stable as yours . I've seen fluctuations anywhere in the range of .1 to 1.0 in a 12-hours time period. I guess that's what I get for using a 2 litre reservoir! Heh.

Here's an interesting observation: My plant appears to be growing in the direction of the one 30W 2700k CFL I have in the case instead of straight up into the 125W 6500k. Even the leaves appear to be "tilting" in the direction of the 30W. Is this an indication of the type of light the plant is using more? Should I just bag the 125W/6500k in favor of 4 more 30W/2700k? I've read a couple times that autoflowering strains don't have a vegetative stage, but it was my general impression that they DO have a vegetative stage, it just comes to an end automatically after 2-4 weeks depending on the strain. Could the observation that my plant appears to be growing in the direction of the flowering light be evidence to support the no-veg theory?

I would appreciate some clarification if someone has a more technical idea of what's going on! I'll also post some pictures later tonight illustrating more clearly what I'm talking about.

Hi all,

Please disregard my weird growth direction question earlier. I'm pretty sure it was all in my head... my leaves aren't really tilting one way more than the other, and the stem is just growing that way because it's the way it popped out of the soil. It really hasn't grown vertically enough to tell which light it's heading towards.

Anyway, my measurements for tonight are:

pH: 6.05
PPM: 655

I adjusted my pH this morning, so my PPM is a bit higher than it was yesterday. I'll keep a careful eye on the plant, but it looks like she is doing alright.

In other news, I think I may have suffocated my yeast by putting the airlock on too soon. I took off the lock and gave it a good shake. I'll put the airlock back on in a few days when the fermentation gets going again.

Here is a picture:

Hi everyone,

Again not much to report today. The yeast in my sugar solution still haven't really gotten going yet. I'll give them until tomorrow and then mix up another batch if I still don't see any progress. Here are my measurements:

pH: 6.1
PPM: 650

I'm happy with how stable my pH has been the past couple days. It seems as though the first ~24 hours after I flush are the least stable, and then it settles down around pH 6. I'll keep this trend in mind and make note of it if it happens next flush as well.

I'd really like to start seeing a bit more vertical growth so I can start planning my ScrOG. There are tons of little leaves forming now, and I know Easy Ryder is supposed to stay a bit bushy but STRETCH a little! Should I move my plant a bit further away from the light? Currently it's probably 5-6 inches away.

Here are some pictures. Typical overhead, a side shot so you can see how bushy she's getting and a picture of some new roots that are coming out of the net pot every which way.

I woke up this morning to find that my plant's second true set of leaves have grown to be nearly the same size as her first true set. Her first set of bushy fan leaves is also developing rapidly. In an effort to get a bit more vertical growth so I can maximize my ScrOG, I moved the plant down to the bottom of the case. I also mixed up a new sugar solution for my yeast and made sure to shake it really well this time for good oxygenation. Here is a picture of the new setup:



The screen is 4 inches above the top of the reservoir, and the lights are another ~8 inches above that. How does it look? If I want to adjust height much from here I'll have to do some creative cutting of my ScrOG rack's feet.

aggreenvln said:

I'm using a 3" net pot. I'd definitely recommend a PPM meter! The one I use is HM Digital TDS-4 and I have no complaints so far. I payed $27 for it on Amazon. I wish my pH was as stable as yours . I've seen fluctuations anywhere in the range of .1 to 1.0 in a 12-hours time period. I guess that's what I get for using a 2 litre reservoir! Heh.

Here's an interesting observation: My plant appears to be growing in the direction of the one 30W 2700k CFL I have in the case instead of straight up into the 125W 6500k. Even the leaves appear to be "tilting" in the direction of the 30W. Is this an indication of the type of light the plant is using more? Should I just bag the 125W/6500k in favor of 4 more 30W/2700k? I've read a couple times that autoflowering strains don't have a vegetative stage, but it was my general impression that they DO have a vegetative stage, it just comes to an end automatically after 2-4 weeks depending on the strain. Could the observation that my plant appears to be growing in the direction of the flowering light be evidence to support the no-veg theory?

I would appreciate some clarification if someone has a more technical idea of what's going on! I'll also post some pictures later tonight illustrating more clearly what I'm talking about.

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It just depends on the nutes u may be using too. am using a 2in net pot and the roots ripped the bottom of it. i will post a pic of it tomorrow on my trial thread. u might wanna make little cuts here and their at the bottom so your root system wont stress.

electropyro said:

It just depends on the nutes u may be using too. am using a 2in net pot and the roots ripped the bottom of it. i will post a pic of it tomorrow on my trial thread. u might wanna make little cuts here and their at the bottom so your root system wont stress.

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Thanks electro, I'll keep an eye out for root stress as you say. Your plant is huge though!

Measurements for tonight:

pH: 6.1
PPM: 680

My PPM is getting up there again, so I'm set for another nute flush tomorrow night. I'll try 1/3 strength veg nutes this time instead of 1/4. She was eating it up! The new yeast solution I put in the case this morning is bubbling away. The girl looks greener than ever and her second set of true leaves are officially larger than her first set! I'll be keeping an eye out for side branches now -- according to my observations, this is usually about when it starts happening. I think my ScrOG screen position is pretty good, as I don't expect to get too much vertical out of her before she starts flowering. Will I still be able to train through the stretch in flowering and get more budding nodes? Or do no more new nodes develop when flowering starts?

I did a nute flush tonight and made a tiny error that I'll try to turn into something good. I was planning on using 1/3 strength veg nutes, but instead I accidentally (read: stoned) put in 1/2 strength FloraMicro as my first ingredient. I figured "eh, whatever" (also read: stoned) and decided to go 1/2 strength veg nutes this flush. She was absolutely digging 1/4 strength, and I figure with all the light I have in there, good temperature regulation and extra CO2 she could probably handle more nutes. I'll keep my eyes peeled extra-thin for nute burn over the next few days, but we'll see how she handles it. Measurements are:

PPM: 750
pH: 5.5

See how much bigger than yesterday .

Very nice..you put a lot of time and effort into this...hope it works great..plus rep

DSB65 said:

Very nice..you put a lot of time and effort into this...hope it works great..plus rep

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Hey man, thanks . I really appreciate it. The most I can do is hope the thread can be informative and entertaining! I'll be getting some experience and optimizing my setup for the first couple grows, so I'm not planning on stopping any time soon. I'd really like to see close to maximum yield for a single plant grow in a PC case. I hope this will form a good basis for later expansion to 2 or 4 plants in a similar setup but larger space.

lookin really good mate, i like you stealth case.... your gonna have a good grow i know it

Thanks, casper! I'm super excited.

Numbers and notes for tonight:

pH: 6.05
PPM: 800

I adjusted my pH down from 6.7 to 5.9 earlier today and it came back up to 6.05 over the next five hours or so. When I was taking my measurements tonight, I noticed my CO2 generator had stopped bubbling again. I did not put the airlock on at all this time, so I'm thinking that primary fermentation only lasts a couple days because of my small sugar solution volume. I decided to refill it with sugar solution. The nice thing about it is all I have to do is pour out the solution and add more -- the yeast sediment reactivates in the new solution.

As usual, I'm keeping a close eye out for nute burn, etc. Here are a few pictures. I can just barely smell a little skunk if I put my nose right up to the leaves.

Hi all,

pH: 6.1
PPM: 940

My PPM took a big jump today. I'll probably do an early nute flush tomorrow night or perhaps Thursday morning. pH is staying relatively stable so I haven't had to adjust it since yesterday afternoon.

Here is a picture. Should I be at all concerned about the leaves curling a little?

Here's the scoop:

pH: 6.05
PPM: 940

These numbers are virtually unchanged since 24 hours ago and the plant is looking great. I think I'm good to sweat it out for another day before a flush, and safe to push the nutes to 1/2 again. I may only have to do one more addition of veg nutes before I switch to bloom! Weeee.

Normal top view; Side view close-up so you can see how bushy she is getting; Look at all those roots!

I'll be doing a very similar setup so I'll be watching this thread closely!

could you answer these questions?
-I might have missed it, but did you ever change your container? how many gallons of water does it hold?
-could you post your current temp and humidity?
-how long did you keep your humidity dome on?

thanks!

endofwed said:

I'll be doing a very similar setup so I'll be watching this thread closely!

could you answer these questions?
-I might have missed it, but did you ever change your container? how many gallons of water does it hold?
-could you post your current temp and humidity?
-how long did you keep your humidity dome on?

thanks!

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Hiya endofwed! Thanks for coming. I'd be happy to answer your questions and look forward to seeing a similar grow .

I haven't changed my container. I'm using 2L of nutrient solution (about half a gallon). It has been an interesting challenge to work with. During the first 24 hours or so after a flush the pH is pretty unstable, but then it levels off and stays relatively static. I am changing my nutes every 3-4 days. My plant will be starting to grow into my ScrOG screen soon, so I'm going to have to come up with a different solution (other than opening the hinged lid) for changing out my nutes and checking pH/PPM. I'm thinking about simply cutting a ~2" round hole in the top of the res with a little flappy cover to keep out light. I'll update when I have more info on this. In any case, I could probably use .75Gal or even 1Gal in my reservoir, but I decided on 2L because it is fairly straightforward to mix nutes at this volume and because it allows for an optimal amount of space between the bottom of the net pot and the solution (approximately .125-.25").

Currently, temperature at plant level is 83.5F and humidity is 40%. These numbers are fairly standard for my setup. During "daytime" hours, temperature fluctuates from about 80-84F, and during "night" it goes down to about 70F (room temperature).

My humidity dome was a clear plastic cup (the same kind I used to soak the seed -- see previous pictures). I had it set over the net pot from the time I put the germinated seed in the rockwool until the sprout broke the surface.

I hope this helps -- Let me know when you start your grow!

wow this is gnarly! im starting to germinate today and have an old casing laying around. you have inspired me today. i woke up and i knew it was going to be a great day. grassy ass my friend!

zzinks said:

wow this is gnarly! im starting to germinate today and have an old casing laying around. you have inspired me today. i woke up and i knew it was going to be a great day. grassy ass my friend!

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Nice! It's good to know that I played a small part in someone else deciding to do something cool. Grassy ass indeed. I just picked up a half-oz from a buddy; it's exciting to realize that it may have been the last time I pay for herb.

Numbers for today:

pH: 6.05
PPM: 960

I was too pooped out to flush my nutes when I got home tonight, but my steady numbers and good looking plant seem to suggest I can wait another day. Plus, I refueled my CO2 generator. I'm not too worried.

One thing that does have me a little concerned is this:


I noticed it this afternoon when I went in to take a sniff. I think it may be mold of some kind? There are a bunch of little white specs as you can see in the picture, and a little fuzzy white stuff near the base of the plant. Recommended course of action? Can I just leave it as long as it's not on the roots or plant itself?

More news: I'm not sure why I didn't realize this until just this week, but my original plan to have four empty wired sockets along the back wall while my veg lights are in and one empty wired socket on the side while my flowering lights are in was pretty terrible. I changed it up this morning and ordered a 125W 2700k CFL almost identical to the 6500k I'm using now. This will allow me to keep the same light configuration during both veg and flowering stages simply by changing out the large powerhouse bulb. I'll be mounting the 30W socket on the back panel in the same way I mounted the 125W socket a couple weeks ago, just as soon as I can get my hands on another drill.

Here's the usual top shot. She should be coming into contact with the screen in the next day or two! My plan is to let the plant grow through a few centimeters before I start training her horizontally. I realize I don't have much time before flowering, but I'm hoping to use the stretch at the beginning of flowering to my advantage in filling as much of the screen as quickly as possible.


G'night guys! Thanks for stopping by.