FFOF ( Fox Farms Ocean Forest ) made Simple - Autoflower

Budzbuddha

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So top dress 10% (~ 2 cups in my case) with EWC and a baker's pinch of dry ferts instead of top dress w/ FFOF?

Note: this IS the easiest way to grow tbh, and this is coming from soil w/ nutes, to Hempy KISS and now this. Genius! Can't wait to start popping my autos! (/eyeballs calendar) :weed:
what size containers ?
 

PadawanWarrior

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Looking to start my popped seeds in a top layer of organic soil with 25% perlite in the top 1/3 of a 3 gallon pot. Bottom 2/3 FFOF with 25% perlite.

Thoughts on starting in the pots they'll finish in?
I always start in as big of pot as possible. If you check my new journals. There's a couple that went straight into 15 gals, and 2 that started in 1/2 gal and we're transplanted into 15's a few weeks ago.
 

Pimpjuice9906

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I always start in as big of pot as possible. If you check my new journals. There's a couple that went straight into 15 gals, and 2 that started in 1/2 gal and we're transplanted into 15's a few weeks ago.
Let take a look. I read after a certain point bigger pots don't equate to bigger yields. I'm trying with 3 gallon fabric pots in a 4x3. Going with 3 plants. All autos.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Let take a look. I read after a certain point bigger pots don't equate to bigger yields. I'm trying with 3 gallon fabric pots in a 4x3. Going with 3 plants. All autos.
Started in 15's.

Started in 1/2 gal and transplanted to 15's a few weeks ago.
 

Pimpjuice9906

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PadawanWarrior

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Can I still re-use my FFOF even though I used bottled chemical nutrients on it or would it be best to start over from scratch next grow, using organics, then re-use that soil that only had organic amendments and teas?
Why not give it a try, and consider it practice. I'd grab a couple bags of dry nutes and give it a go. If it doesn't work out well, then you'd just need soil. But I think you could pull it off fine.

Edit: And grab a bag of EWC for extra microbes.
 
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Tom Lynch

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Hi All,

1st time grower here. First off, can't thank BudzBuddha enough for hosting this forum and providing all of the valuable data with tried and tested examples contained on these many pages over the years for a novice like myself to consider as I start out on my journey. Virginia went legal last year so at 63 y/o I decided I needed a hobby! I am near the end of my 1st grow. I have 2 plants in a Spider Farmer 2x2 using their 1000 LED operating 18/6 throughout. The girls are in 5 gal containers with FFOF, perlite, vermiculite, and mycho for my base. I planted the seeds directly into the 5 gal pots after having dug out and backfilled a starter area using HF and perlite. I have top dressed with a mix of FFOF, HF, Dr. Earth's Flower Girl, Veg and General Purpose every 2 weeks varying the emphasis of Flower versus Veg depending on where in the life cycle each plant was. I started late with feeding Stretch beginning at week 7. I water every 2-3 days.

Had a rough start. The 1st plant is Gorilla Glue Auto I'm pretty sure, lol. I am now ending my 14th week today from the seedling sprouting. I call this one Stretch because at the beginning I had my LED 24" from the plant and Stretch true to form stretched out so much that one morning I opened the tent and seemingly heard her call up to me "help I've fallen and can't get up!" So I crimped her stalk a couple times and "replanted" her. Probably stunted her growth but hey she survived!!! The 2nd plant was a freebie seed (Green Crack) from the vendor and started as a seedling but never got past the 1st set of true leaves. So I re-started a 2nd plant then with Fast Bud #2 Auto and she is 3 weeks behind Stretch. She completed her 11th week yesterday and I call her Stumpy.

I think I should start to plan the flush. I believe I'm close but wanted to get opinions/thoughts from you all. Both girls have trichomes which are starting to go milky but they have a bit more to go before the vast majority are really milky, let alone start turning amber. I'm planning for a 2 week flush and am hoping I can be flush both girls simultaneously but that isn't necessarily a big thing. I'd like to start the flush in the next 2-3 days in keeping with the watering schedule. (I fed them each last week so next week so they are due another feeding next week.) Do the pictures I've attached below support my case for starting the flush sometime in the next 2-3 days? Or should I slow my jets down a bit, feed the girls next week and then start the flush shortly thereafter? Also while the process of flushing is underway will the plants continue to grow and the trichomes continue to develop; thereby supporting my desire to get this going sooner rather than later? Thanks for any thoughts you can provide me on this occasion!

Oh and by the way I plan to dry and cure in my master closet. I have run a trial and can keep the humidity in the closet in the 52-62 RH range running the humidifier 24x7. At this time of the year the temps in the closet seem to be in the mid to upper 60s consistently. I can also maintain near darkness at most times through the drying process. I am venting from the closet into my attic through the opening made when the house was built. Finally there is an exhaust fan to move air out of the attic. Don't know how the smell will be can't wait to fine out! It's all been a fun experiment for me so far!!!

Here are the girls together in the tent. Stretch is to the left and Stumpy is on the right.

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Here is a solo of Stretch and a look at her trichomes from the main cola.

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Here is a solo of Stumpy and a look at her trichomes on the main cola.

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Thanks for any thoughts and the time you've taken to assist me. If you reply and I do not respond immediately please forgive me. I work overnights and cannot access a forum like this where I work. So my time here is somewhat limited.

;-)

Tom
 
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Downhomedude

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Found some gnats floating around, had to apply a decent top layer of DE and cover with foil. Gonna wait em out!
Keep your drip trays clean kids!

The baby girls are still thriving. The original plant I started with in straight FFOF is still missing some nitrogen or something, - uniformly a pale lime color. I've been topping with EWC and dry ferts, still not 100%... it seems to be happy, w/ smallish fully formed leaves, new growth is pointing straight up, just that color has me concerned.
 

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CarolinaPothead

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Using 3 gallon containers of FFOF with the mixture shown above.
Lighting: 2x BLOOMSPECT SL1000 100w QB panels in a 2x4 tent.

EDIT: I updated my question and other references, (by cups I mean red 16 oz solo cups, my chosen unit of measure here :) )
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Let take a look. I read after a certain point bigger pots don't equate to bigger yields. I'm trying with 3 gallon fabric pots in a 4x3. Going with 3 plants. All autos.
I know that my plants took off when I went from 3 to 5 gallon pots. I mean they are waay healthier. Just my experience.
 

Mr. Bakerton

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I've started using dry fertilizers with my soils for a few grows now. OF and fox farms dry bags.

I mix in some and top dress weeks later. Occasionally on those long growing Photos, I still give the liquid feeds as I see its needed and that stops the issues. Of course practice makes perfect but is it possible to over do the dry nutes? Can I assume as long as I'm not ridiculous with it, the plant will be fine? i would like to not buy more tiger bloom in the future.

I have what seems like an endless supply of the FF bloom trio and continue to use that once a week at half strength. I'm not seeing any build up and negative effects from it.
 

Downhomedude

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I've started using dry fertilizers with my soils for a few grows now. OF and fox farms dry bags.

I mix in some and top dress weeks later. Occasionally on those long growing Photos, I still give the liquid feeds as I see its needed and that stops the issues. Of course practice makes perfect but is it possible to over do the dry nutes? Can I assume as long as I'm not ridiculous with it, the plant will be fine? i would like to not buy more tiger bloom in the future.

I have what seems like an endless supply of the FF bloom trio and continue to use that once a week at half strength. I'm not seeing any build up and negative effects from it.
I've read that the plants only take what they need when growing in a living soil environment. I overdosed my soil with dry fertilizer when I transplanted and they are still doing fine. The bright lime gal seems to be coming around as well!
 

CarolinaPothead

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My autos started in ffof never got burned. They showed a few bent leaves through the seedling stage. They grew fkn perfectly until they hit flower and then they started looking like yours. I had cal-mag ordered but it didn't get here soon enough. I'm not experienced enough with autos to give advice here but good luck on your grow.
 
wow this is a really cool thread. forgive me if this has been asked before but i didn't have time to read all 22 pages lol. How much ocean forest do you use as a top dress when you recharge. I have a clone in ffof i want to experiment with and never thought of doing it that way. It's a photo in a solo cup now so it wont be that big, ill probably use a 2 gal fabric pot to flower it i'm just wondering if there is a recipe to it or if you just kinda wing it. I started growing in ocean forest and slaughtered all my plants so i went to dwc and coco and never looked back but the simplicity of this really intrigues me.
 
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