FF big b and beastie b ok?

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Would it be ok to use beastie bloomz instead of tiger b? The guy at northern light and garden talked me in to getting beastie b and big b. He said just use big bloom til week 4 then use beastie bloom. Shouldn't I be using tiger bloom with these? Half my outdoor crop is almost week 5 and the other half is just starting
 
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Depends on what they need. I think it best to look at your medium and use a solution that fits your requirements and plant needs.
 
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Yes they are fine togeather. After all they are made by the same people and on the same feeding scedule. As for weather they will work for you..... Light plays a big role on how the nutes are used. Less light less nutes. If your under 100w of cfl then the beasty bloomz may be to mutch
 
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Dynamo626 said:
Yes they are fine togeather. After all they are made by the same people and on the same feeding scedule. As for weather they will work for you..... Light plays a big role on how the nutes are used. Less light less nutes. If your under 100w of cfl then the beasty bloomz may be to mutch
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Ok the ones im wanting to try these nuts on are outdoor. They get all day sun. I went old school and made my holes 5ft by 5ft. I didn't have enough cash to fill all my holes with good soil. The dirt on my property is crappie clay so I put about a foot of round rock in bottom of hole. The rest is layered with black gold, stear manure, peat moss, compost and top soil. All is mixed with perlite and vermiculite. My marion berrys are on week 5 and im getting alot of yellow leaves. Looks like they need nitro but the rest of the foliage is nice dark green. I'll post some pics.
 
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first outdoor plants take longer to mature than indoor plants. flower takes a bit longer. the plants can for sure handle the food. your mix sounds great except the foot of rocks. probably 5 gal in volume of mrdia that the roots are growing but there is no nutrition. in the future put them in big smart pots. 45 gal smart pot is under 20 bucks. if you think its nitro well there is none of that in beasty bloomz and 5 weeks into flower they are all but done with nitro anyway. also you cant flush effectively plants in the ground. and the salts can build up. heavy salts also kill microbes and I'm sure your "herd" is fantastic. personaly if it were me I would feed a rich compost tea and if your dead set on using flower enhancers use one without salt like G-10
 
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Dynamo626 said:
Yes they are fine togeather. After all they are made by the same people and on the same feeding scedule. As for weather they will work for you..... Light plays a big role on how the nutes are used. Less light less nutes. If your under 100w of cfl then the beasty bloomz may be to mutch
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Dynamo626 said:
first outdoor plants take longer to mature than indoor plants. flower takes a bit longer. the plants can for sure handle the food. your mix sounds great except the foot of rocks. probably 5 gal in volume of mrdia that the roots are growing but there is no nutrition. in the future put them in big smart pots. 45 gal smart pot is under 20 bucks. if you think its nitro well there is none of that in beasty bloomz and 5 weeks into flower they are all but done with nitro anyway. also you cant flush effectively plants in the ground. and the salts can build up. heavy salts also kill microbes and I'm sure your "herd" is fantastic. personaly if it were me I would feed a rich compost tea and if your dead set on using flower enhancers use one without salt like G-10
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Dynamo626 said:
first outdoor plants take longer to mature than indoor plants. flower takes a bit longer. the plants can for sure handle the food. your mix sounds great except the foot of rocks. probably 5 gal in volume of mrdia that the roots are growing but there is no nutrition. in the future put them in big smart pots. 45 gal smart pot is under 20 bucks. if you think its nitro well there is none of that in beasty bloomz and 5 weeks into flower they are all but done with nitro anyway. also you cant flush effectively plants in the ground. and the salts can build up. heavy salts also kill microbes and I'm sure your "herd" is fantastic. personaly if it were me I would feed a rich compost tea and if your dead set on using flower enhancers use one without salt like G-10
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I used the FF trio for years and grew some super nice plants with it ....I personally never used anything but the GB,BB,and TB .....basically the Trio...I'm kinda puzzled on why he would tell you to choose that over the TB ....if I were you I'd definately still get the TB as well ...GL
 
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Ok thank you. I wish the guy at northern lights and garden could have told me that. O well my bad. I should have went somewhere else when they said they dont carrier vegamatrix
 
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Ok thank you. I wish the guy at northern lights and garden could have told me that. O well my bad. I should have went somewhere else when they said they dont carrier vegamatrix
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Like I said I've grown some killer plants using the Trio ... I honestly don't know why he'd tell you that...I could see him maybe trying to add that to the Trio...but telling you to replace it with that is nonsense...TB is important for the home stretch on your plants ...definately get some...and ask for a FF feeding schedule book when you go back ((they're free))....you may still be able to use that stuff along with the TB and BB if you wanted....once again GL
 
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Indacouch said:
Like I said I've grown some killer plants using the Trio ... I honestly don't know why he'd tell you that...I could see him maybe trying to add that to the Trio...but telling you to replace it with that is nonsense...TB is important for the home stretch on your plants ...definately get some...and ask for a FF feeding schedule book when you go back ((they're free))....you may still be able to use that stuff along with the TB and BB if you wanted....once again GL
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Thank you. Thats what I thought. I usually use vegamatrix but the last place I went didn't carry it. Ive used ff bb and tb in the past. Not sure why dude at hydro shop told me I didn't need ff tb. I thought it was a must if going that route. So back to town I go
 
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Ok I got the tiger bloom to go with big bloom and beastie bloomz. I didnt have a feeding chart so I went by directions on the bottle. Bad bad mistake. I got nut burn and bunch of my leaves are turning yellow and falling off. I gave them 4 tablespoons big b and 3 tsp tiger b to one gallon h2o. No beastie bloomz yet. I gave them this dose twice. 3 days apart. I got bunch burnt leaves and bunch yellow leaves. Im in week 6ish of bloom. Im really wishing I would have stuck to vegamatrix. Any ideas on what to do
 
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Ok I got the tiger bloom to go with big bloom and beastie bloomz. I didnt have a feeding chart so I went by directions on the bottle. Bad bad mistake. I got nut burn and bunch of my leaves are turning yellow and falling off. I gave them 4 tablespoons big b and 3 tsp tiger b to one gallon h2o. No beastie bloomz yet. I gave them this dose twice. 3 days apart. I got bunch burnt leaves and bunch yellow leaves. Im in week 6ish of bloom. Im really wishing I would have stuck to vegamatrix. Any ideas on what to do
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Post a pic ....lower leafs turning yellow and dropping is totally normal during flower.....if your using the tiger bloom as the directions say for general feedings ...post a pic of what you think is nute burn ....and you only need to feed them the TB once a week ....and the Big Bloom will not burn your plants ...it's the only organic of the ff nutes that you have .....you can give BB by the cup fulls without issue FYI ....I still use BB during flower and lots if it
 
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Indacouch said:
Post a pic ....lower leafs turning yellow and dropping is totally normal during flower.....if your using the tiger bloom as the directions say for general feedings ...post a pic of what you think is nute burn ....and you only need to feed them the TB once a week ....and the Big Bloom will not burn your plants ...it's the only organic of the ff nutes that you have .....you can give BB by the cup fulls without issue FYI ....I still use BB during flower and lots if it
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The yellowing is slowing down. Hope that was the problem. I'll give it strait water for a few more days and finish it off with vegamatrix bloom.
I got some black columbian og plants that are just starting to bud. I hit them with the same thing but lot lighter dose and they got alil burnt to. Ive never had this problem with any other nuts.
 
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Nothing in those pics would worry me whatsoever .....you'd be freaking out if you saw the lowers of my plants .....it's up to you if you wana switch nutes ....but BB and Tiger bloom used at general feeding once per week would be just fine ....then obviously give yourself a few weeks of just water with a bit of run off .....no issues in those pics ....those plants look fine .....GL

My plants look like they've been through war when they're finished ....yellow leafs with perfect fat stinky buds all over....your golden I promise
 
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