Feminized Seeds Hermie Test - 14 strains, which are high risk; frequency; DM Reverse;

how many of each are you running?

well, I had two running, one was male, then this one, and now I was starting a new plant cause I thought this was a hermie. But if this is a female ill just start using this plant. I only had 3 seeds and they were from clinc bud so there not fem seeds, and I dont want to waist my time on a new plant if this is a female.

If it was exposed to pollen then you will probably get seeds from it but that has nothing to do with if it will hermie or not. You should be fine.

Okay thanks so im going to set it back to a 24/7 light cycle.
The plant should then grow fine and bud properly? (with seeds)

DankyKush1 said:

Okay thanks so im going to set it back to a 24/7 light cycle.
The plant should then grow fine and bud properly? (with seeds)

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If you switch the lights to 24/0, it will re-veg...it will take longer than seeds. You plant looks like it have been flowering for much longer than just for sexing, and is kinda small. If you are trying to take clones, unless this is some bomb bud that you just have to save...this is not a good idea. re-vegging takes a long time, again longer than from seed...flip the lights today to 24...you can look for a harvest date of the beginning of May.

so wats the final verdict? fems produce hermies alot or wat? from wat i read on here that seems to be the case, which sucks cause i was wanting to buy fem seeds.

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No verdict yet Doowmd, but fems are worth a try. Plants from feminized seeds will be slightly less sexually stable than the parent, but that doesn't mean we'll get hermies all the time. I'm growing feminized Flo again and haven't had a hermie problem over several grows, I've got 7 new feminized strains to go into flower in about 3-4 weeks.

My feelings - If you want a mother for cloning go with regular seeds for the best possible genetics; if you grow only from seed or want to try a strain without taking males to flower, and you want a better chance of getting a female that resembles the mother, then go feminized.

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kool thread..subed

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I sprayed my feminized seed plants with Reverse again last night - after the first dose of Reverse last week both the Red Diesel and Blueberry's bananas dried up for a few days, then came back at a slower rate - a half dozen to a dozen each day. I picked the bananas every day this week before re-spraying last night, there were no bananas grown back this morning.

The Red Diesel clone in RDWC had only a couple of bananas for the whole week, amazing difference from it's mother in Pro Mix. The two Strawberry Cough clones in RDWC have produced no bananas 8 weeks into flower, while all other SC clones and the SC mother have hermied in past grows.

My control plants from regular seeds - Big Laughing, Bubblegum and Kali Mist - are all flowering perfectly. The 2 BL are at 7 weeks (1 pro mix, 1 RDWC); the two BG are at 8 weeks (both pro mix); and the Kali Mist is at 4 weeks (pro mix). My growing seems OK, at least for not overly stressing the plants.

I'm doing a preemptive spray on the next Red Diesel clone going into flower this weekend. I want to see if a few small doeses of Reverse during transition into flower will keep the plant from hermieing, rather than using a lot of Reverse to stop a hermie 4 or 5 weeks into flower. This Red Diesel clone is a good test since the mother and first clone hermied so excessively.

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Dont waste your time or cash on Dutchmasters Reverse as it has been proven to be complete snake oil & does nothing to stop the spread of polen or the production of pollen sacks in hermies,it is also not effective for using as a pollen knock down agent.

A year or so back myself & a few other members did a in depth study of all its intended uses & the effects of using reverse,there is a thread somewhere on this site you might saearch out if the sites search engine ever got upgraded to a working feature,if not google reverse a study of hermies to get the link.

I spent months testing the product on dozens of plants before making my mind up that the product is snake oil.

The only thing that Dutchmasters will reverse is your cash flow into the negative.

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Panhead did you find that Reverse dried up bananas that were growing and slowed new growth for a few days, before the plants continued to hermie as if not sprayed? I got temporary results with most applications but I certainly wouldn't call the product "Reverse", maybe "Slow" or "Time Out" but not Reverse.

Did you get any 100% stoppage of bananas with any trial? I had to give multiple applications to keep the banana production low but no 100% stoppage of new banana growth. In fact most times the banana production resumed as normal. I certainly agree with you that the product does not work as advertised and I don't know that it's any better than a pair of tweezers.

With your study what did you determine the best course of action when you have a plant that hermied? Either from stress or poor genetics.

Thanks.

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https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/139699-dutchmasters-reverse-study-hermies.html

Good looking thread (14 pages). I've read a few posts by Uncle Ben and yourself near the end, lots of info to absorb, I'll need a day or two to get up to speed just so I can ask sensible questions about Reverse.

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Can I add GreenHouse Himalaya GOLD to the list, mild hermies grown in good conditions.

Hey Hobbes... well, my paradise fem Nebulas grew out very uuniform, all produced top quality, resin-coated ganja, however, I discovered some seeds in the lower smaller buds. wtf! the Black Dominas i grew along with the Nebulas were regular seeds. I removed the males right away(.btw, I used 5 out of the 10 seeds that came in a sensi seeds reg pack, out of the 5 I germed 4 were female).. I didnt see any bannana things on the Nebulas, they just formed some seeds... only on lower buds,.. so, are these seeds good to grow? or will some hermie trait be embedded in them? Im confused... but, Nebula is some fucking amazing herb that I highly reccomend so I would totally grow those out if you think theyd be worth it. I actually ordered another pack from Paradise already I was so impressed with the quality of the nebula, although I ordered their regular seeds this time.

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Hey Cheech

"I discovered some seeds in the lower smaller buds."

I find bananas in the lower nodes during early flower in some strains, I pick them and nothing more for the grow. I get a few seeds down low on these strains too.

"are these seeds good to grow? or will some hermie trait be embedded in them"

From the research I've done with seed companies and gurus posting in the forums and writing articles - Self pollinated seeds will be slightly (at least) less sexually stable than the parent. S1 being Self pollinated first generation. Each successive generation will be less sexually stable than the parent, at an exponential rate, until the 3rd or 4th generation where the plants are useless for our purposes.

You may get a good plant from the seed, but if the parent hermied you can be sure the daughter will hermie worse. This is one of the reasons seed companies love feminized: grower's can't produce their own seeds; rip off breeders will have less sexually stable genetics if they buy an S1 and sell S2s. One extra level of security to protect the work they put into developing their genetics.

According to Dutch Passion's research a feminized offspring has a 70% chance of closely resembling the mother, less the sexual stability cascade. Some things I'd think about are - Was the mother that good that you want to see how the offspring turns out? Are you just curious? Nothing like trying a plant to see for yourself. If the mother was good and you have no clone if the dirt is still in the bucket you may be able to get a root clone which will be an exact duplicate, much better than seed.

I've grown hermie seed to see what happened but never got anything worth keeping. I believe in going through seed packs to find the best plant for a mother and cloning for exact duplicates.

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Hola Hobbes, so how did the Taiga finish and what is your opinion of the buzz? I bought a few without having gone this deep in the research -- I'm a sucker for pot porn, and the pictures on Attitude were salacious, to put it mildly. Many people have said that Taiga MUST hermie, but they don't talk about grow routines, methods, light security or nutrients. It's like, if you give me the right hormones and flash some lights at me at the right time, perhaps I'll hermie, no?

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Hey el confusado!

The Taiga grew and harvested without a problem, no bananas worth worrying about. I grew mine in 12/12 with my regular plants instead of 20/4, I think it stretched and took longer to finish because of the short light time during flower. Probably lower yield and potency too. Perhaps because of this I didn't find the bud to give any special high, but I've got incredibly high tolerance too. Decent plant, I'm sure it can be grown out better than I did.

33" Taiga on the left, 24" Big Laughing on the right.



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DONT BUY FEM SEEDS!!!!!!!!!!!
dont belive the hype ,companies are just trying cash in and make money of your dreams and thats wat they are selling us a dream. buy regular seed and take you r time and pick out good mothers that will never hermie on you . people wasting time and money thinking that they are getting something special regular seeds are good and cost much less. there is no such thing as 100% fem seed

primo604 said:

DONT BUY FEM SEEDS!!!!!!!!!!!
dont belive the hype ,companies are just trying cash in and make money of your dreams and thats wat they are selling us a dream. buy regular seed and take you r time and pick out good mothers that will never hermie on you . people wasting time and money thinking that they are getting something special regular seeds are good and cost much less. there is no such thing as 100% fem seed

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That's not always true some breeders best strains are the same price reg or fem. Fem seeds have there place and I use them for guerrila grows and nice having plants that grow faster than clones and don't have to worry about males later on.

wow, thanks Hobbes.. as usual a very complete clear answer. Appreciate it! well, I have bought the rest of Paradise seeds library. well, Sugar Babe, Sheherezade, Magic Bud, Amsterdam Flame and Opium, and I have a pack of Flying Dutchman Early Durban and Sensi Seeds Skunk 1, so, I will do one of those next and save those seeds I found in my buds but I guess I wont use them unless I have nothing else to plant...

I have a plant grown from seed that hermed out big time. There are so many sacks that it is hard to keep up with. I'm just wondering, how long will the pollen affect my grows? Will a HEPA type filter help me at all? Is there any way of killing the pollen?

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"how long will the pollen affect my grows?"

frmrboi: " in high heat & humidity maybe a month tops. Plain water alone will destroy it. "

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"Is there any way of killing the pollen?"

Wiping the grow room walls, floor and ceiling with bleach. Use a spray bottle. Do this 2 or three times.

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"Will a HEPA type filter help me at all?"

Hepa filters advertise 99.97% removal of pollen, it will help considerably.

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