Feminized seeds... And Hermies.

Budologist420

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  • If you find a dioecious herb strain that has the hermaphrodite condition you can separate this plant from the rest and allow selfing to occur. If the male pollen is viable on this plant then the hermaphrodite will produce seeds. Selfed plants that produce seeds will eventually generate offspring that:
    1. Are all female
    2. Are all hermaphrodite
    3. Produce male, female and hermaphrodite plants because the environment also influences the final sexual expression of the selfed plant
    4. Express limited variation from the original selfed plant
    Breeders should note that it is nearly impossible for a hermaphrodite to create male plants although the environment can influence males to appear. Hermaphrodites usually create female-only and hermaphrodite seeds. The female-only seeds often carry the hermaphrodite trait. Selfing has become popular among those who wish to breed all-female or feminized seeds. Unfortunately feminized seeds do very little for the herb gene pool as the hermaphrodite condition prevents growers from generating a sinsemilla crop.​


 
I can agree with that. If a plant is hermie prone, it will produce hermies, whether its through self pollination or even spreading over to other pure female plants.

Now, that doesnt mean to me that if you take a normal female plant that isnt a hermie, and use techniques such as colliadal silver and FORCE it to produce male pollen, that the offspring will be hermie prone. Thats an entirely different subject.
 
Silver bocks the copper in the plants so it can't produce flowers.
It dosent stress hermi your plants.
Its closer to a true male.
 
Since posting this, the OP has made no other comments. I have been wondering if this thread was going to go somewhere. I am guessing that his information was to show a relationship in feminized seeds and hermies. If that is the case, and if the OP does feel like there is a connection, I sure would like to discuss this further.
 
thats where breeding hermie pollen with seed sister plants of the same or different strain to produce offspring that is less likely to hermie. or a straincan breed pure by the process of cubing then the final pure results can be selfed with a lower chance of hermie condition. there are many styles of breeding to lowering the chances of having a hermie. seed banks have suposedly perfected this but often with the large demand they will self as many clones as they can often leading to unpredictable results. they work on a larger scale so breeding can be complicated by the fact they need alot of seeds versus the fact that exact breeding process's take time and space.(ie collecting enough pollen to pollinate a 100 plants without using the selfed seeds that where created in the process? i think not mix em and send em out is what they say im sure
 
thats where breeding hermie pollen with seed sister plants of the same or different strain to produce offspring that is less likely to hermie. or a straincan breed pure by the process of cubing then the final pure results can be selfed with a lower chance of hermie condition. there are many styles of breeding to lowering the chances of having a hermie. seed banks have suposedly perfected this but often with the large demand they will self as many clones as they can often leading to unpredictable results. they work on a larger scale so breeding can be complicated by the fact they need alot of seeds versus the fact that exact breeding process's take time and space.(ie collecting enough pollen to pollinate a 100 plants without using the selfed seeds that where created in the process? i think not mix em and send em out is what they say im sure

I think thats where the good, reputable breeders seperate themselves from the pollen chunkers.
 
thats where breeding hermie pollen with seed sister plants of the same or different strain to produce offspring that is less likely to hermie. or a straincan breed pure by the process of cubing then the final pure results can be selfed with a lower chance of hermie condition. there are many styles of breeding to lowering the chances of having a hermie. seed banks have suposedly perfected this but often with the large demand they will self as many clones as they can often leading to unpredictable results. they work on a larger scale so breeding can be complicated by the fact they need alot of seeds versus the fact that exact breeding process's take time and space.(ie collecting enough pollen to pollinate a 100 plants without using the selfed seeds that where created in the process? i think not mix em and send em out is what they say im sure

So your saying if you hermie a plant of say GDP and only collect the pollen, then use that to pollenate another female(could this even be a clone taken from the same plant earlier in the cycle?) Perferably from the same strain, and you'll get femed seeds less likely to hermie?
 
So your saying if you hermie a plant of say GDP and only collect the pollen, then use that to pollenate another female(could this even be a clone taken from the same plant earlier in the cycle?) Perferably from the same strain, and you'll get femed seeds less likely to hermie?

Basically thats what he is saying. I am not sure that self-pollinating will be more hermie prone, but I have heard they would be less vigorous and more mutant prone.
But, yes the best thing to do is not self-pollinate IMO. Collect the pollen from the female you forced to produce pollen, then use that pollen on clones and/or sister plants.
 
yeah dude above answered correctly cloning a plant then pollinating with pollen from the same plant(different clone) is the same as selfing. so no would not decrease chances of hermies.
 
Also collecting the pollen and effectively breeding another plant. you can paint the pollen on some of the lower bud sites. only those will grow seeds leaving the rest of your buds seedless. when you harvest cut above your impregnat buds. allow these buds to go past ripe to insure mature seeds.
 
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