Female Seeds Or Hermi - Ambrosia Jordan of the islands, Genetic or Environmental

last few weeks i watered my plants in the dark period, exposing them to 10-20 mins ( a few times like 40 mins ) low level light about 7 or 8 hours through the photo period.

They are DWC 26 days flowering, one plant, probably an ounce on the plant with. ( one plant grow with 150-250 hps ) They have been putting on trichomes for about a week.


The strain is ambrosia - Jordan of the islands

two days ago i found some male flowers and was shocked. they are only present at the bottom of the plant.

They are only on the lower most node of each bud that i have found them on.

the buds they appeared on for the most part had very little light expose. ( 3-4 layers of canopy above or under stem)

There are no male flowers present through out the buds that they had appeared on the bottom node. There were also no male flowers found on upper buds at all.

The water evaporated and i went a little over my PPM mark, But only from 1000-1300. 5 days ago.



I am wondering if i accidentally stressed them out into producing male flowers, or if it is in the genetics? If it is in the genetics i am going to be very pissed of at the Seed breeder Jordan of the Islands.


That being said i am interested to know if you can tell the difference between the two phenomenons.

I clipped all the buds that had male flowers, im sure a few poped and im going to have some hermi or preferably female seeds. I had not trimmed the bottom and had a lot of undergrowth. for the most part i only left larger bud sites. I ripped the shit out of my plant ( left only the top buds, got a single layer canopy, but still thick)

If i baby this plant, stop violating its nap time, low-medium nutrients, dimmed heating lighting/ heat ect... will the male pre-flowers gro back? If the cause of the male flowers is genetic obviously the flowers should return , but is the same true for stressed plants / light leak?

Can i use this observation to determine if it is genetic or environmental in cause?

Thank you for your input, any speculation or wisdom is welcome.

Ps. i have supersilverhaze female x ambrosia male in soil in the corner just throwing out hairs for the last week. So if it is good pollen im in for a treat.

Pss. i am posting this in two threads plant problems and advanced growing as it is relevant to both. mods do your worst.

As i have received no feed back i will attempt to create OC.

My plants i now about day 39 majority of hairs are still white, but the buds are full. I have not found any male flowers on the plant, i believe that i found about 5 male flowers in total. Since no flowers have grown in new buds, I am concluding that this Ambrosia plant was stressed into male flowers, and potential for fem seeds.

There are a few seed locations on lower buds. I wonder what sort of genetic viability these will have?

I have read that these seeds that are self pollinated can be like clones, or total shit. Depending on my sources.

forgot to mention I also was using small amounts of H202 that could have stressed the plant.

Mike, I very much doubt that you will have stressed them that much. What I can tell you is that there are a lot of genetics out there that will throw out the odd male flower and for breeders it is a very difficult thing to get 100% of your stock completely genetically perfect. A plant with a recessive herm gene will often throw out Male pods around week 3-4 sometimes sooner, and these are normally found like you said, on lower branches of the plants. Carefully remove them and just monitor those brnaches for returns, after week 4/5 you will be fine. If you dry the pods out you can also use the pollen to produce selfed seeds from your plant. Do not believe the hype that all the seeds will be Herms. At worst you will get a plant that throws out a few pods like your one has. But you have lots of babies to use for hte future. Don't stress, sounds like you will be good to go.

Peace, DST