Fasciation, Who has had it?

Mechanicalbuds

Mechanicalbuds

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So last year I had a plant do this. It was from a bag seed. Nothing special. The plant got to be 2 feet tall and the main stem was 1 inch wide and 1/8 inch thick. Looked it up and thought it was weird. Wiki says it is rare. This was my first run with cmh lights. I thought it may be from the lamps because in another room I started marigolds for outside and 1 of those did that as well. So I have a rare condition happen on 2 different plants in 2 different rooms at the same time? Odds of that? Sorry I got no pics for proof..... But im no liar! Thoughts y'all?
 
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Psychonautic83

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I've had it, cut off the affected branch if you still can. Top bud is gonna be all leaf, highly undesirable mutation. Seems like it's just more common now.
 
Jbird7

Jbird7

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Mechanicalbuds said:
So last year I had a plant do this. It was from a bag seed. Nothing special. The plant got to be 2 feet tall and the main stem was 1 inch wide and 1/8 inch thick. Looked it up and thought it was weird. Wiki says it is rare. This was my first run with cmh lights. I thought it may be from the lamps because in another room I started marigolds for outside and 1 of those did that as well. So I have a rare condition happen on 2 different plants in 2 different rooms at the same time? Odds of that? Sorry I got no pics for proof..... But im no liar! Thoughts y'all?
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So the stem was more or less flattened?
 
Chip Green

Chip Green

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I saw a freakazoid plant a buddy grew that did that. The entire main stem was like a celery stalk. Maybe even more like a rhubarb stalk actually, because of the purplish hues....
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Mechanicalbuds said:
So last year I had a plant do this. It was from a bag seed. Nothing special. The plant got to be 2 feet tall and the main stem was 1 inch wide and 1/8 inch thick. Looked it up and thought it was weird. Wiki says it is rare. This was my first run with cmh lights. I thought it may be from the lamps because in another room I started marigolds for outside and 1 of those did that as well. So I have a rare condition happen on 2 different plants in 2 different rooms at the same time? Odds of that? Sorry I got no pics for proof..... But im no liar! Thoughts y'all?
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Called whorlled phylotaxy, fasciation is different. What has happened is a break down of the hormones and proteins responsible for apical dominance and that results in an out branching. Generally the bud from this taste not great due to the stalk and leaf content. Reasonable to say something went wrong to cause it say watering or environment. Once perfect conditions return it dissapears and is not of genetic breeding and hence we can never breed that forward :-)
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Renfro said:
The flat stem is an indicator of fascination rather than whorled phyllotaxy that some people call a trifoliate.
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Simply fasciation describes a broad set of distinctions not so much an accurate description such as whorlled phy. does which is where most have drawn the line and led with that.

Fasciation more accurately describes those weird claw like preflowers but whorlled phy does not. Whorlled phy describes the arrangement from loss of apical dominance whereas fasciation in plants dosent affect apical dominance always. Both describe the transient effect but a lot of fasciated plants can be genetically bred.

Ones more accurate than the other :-)
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Renfro said:
The flat stem is an indicator of fascination rather than whorled phyllotaxy that some people call a trifoliate.
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Trifoliates seem sometimes to be caused by stress when seeds are being formed. I found a larger incidence of them on my shitter plants.

Mutations of the genetics from stress, mieosis and mitosis problems maybe.

One thing noticable about this plant is it has many ways to cope with stress or bad conditions but when the good conditions come all disapears and no genetic degrdation seems to occur.

Trifoliates is strikingly like loss of dominance probably the same thing idk but loss of apical dominance can follow on from a trifoliate if you put it back in shit conditions.

After time growing i rarely see any of this stuff now, i did when i started hence the old link to my crazy branched plants - stress related from me being a noob? :-)
 
Nizza

Nizza

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I found this old picture this plant had that flat stemmed thing going on..
Reminded me of celery lol
 
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