Extremely new grower...

nattyhead357

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I have just started my first grow about 1 week ago. I started from seeds in the jiffy starting disc thing. and then wehn they broke out of the pod I moved them to solo cups. I have 7 seedlings anywhere from 2-5 inches tall. I have them in a small cabinet with 8 6500k cfls all around them and a walmart brand grow fl. bulb above (totalling between 8000-9000 lumens. any tips? anything im doing wrong? all comments are welcome...:peace:
 

phyzix

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Just keep them moist until they sprout, and keep temperature between 65 - 85 if you can. A very slight breeze is good for young plants, just enough so they move slightly, this will strengthen the stem.

How many watts are your eight CFLs? That should be enough light for awhile, but you might want more when you move to flowing.

Good luck.
 

nattyhead357

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I have 4 20 Watt and 4 26 Watt. This is what they look like after about a week. Is this normal, good, or bad?
Thanks for your help
 

nattyhead357

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so thats about right? i have a friends who has a 1.5-2 foot northern lights and its a month. I just cant see mine growing that much in 3 weeks time.
 

phyzix

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Not under some CFLs, but remember that height in NO WAY equates to yield, it's all about light penetration. Keep those CFLs super close and you can do well.
 

speeka

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if anything i would wait untill the roots pop out the sides of the jiffy pellet before planting in soil as the pellets contain enough nutrients to accomplish this.this way if they start to stretch, you can pot them deeper to stop them getting blown over whilst young.
 

nattyhead357

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if anything i would wait untill the roots pop out the sides of the jiffy pellet before planting in soil
I did

Not under some CFLs
He has less light than me. He is using those grow light things from walmart. I think they are 20 Watts and he has 5. The only thing i could think of from his hieght is that his lights are far away and I would think the plant would just keep growing until they get enough light... btw his plant is skimpy.

and I'm getting 2 clones tonight.. so Ill update those as well
 

phyzix

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He has less light than me. He is using those grow light things from walmart. I think they are 20 Watts and he has 5. The only thing i could think of from his hieght is that his lights are far away and I would think the plant would just keep growing until they get enough light... btw his plant is skimpy.

and I'm getting 2 clones tonight.. so Ill update those as well
Ah that is called stretching, his light is too far from the plant, resulting in it growing lanky. This will not yield well, so good job on avoiding that problem.
 

That 5hit

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SOIL GROWING BASIC
cherry popping grow technic for indoor soil growing
(get a few grows under your belt before jumping into advanced cultivation, learn the basic)
a good location, soil, nutes, lights, and co2 can only take you so far
big buds and good yeilds are based on genes and growing skills

plant life is tipicaly
2wks-1month veg 24/0 or 18/6
2-3 month flower 12/12
4 months (maybe 3) all together from seed to cured smoke

everything can be found at any bigbox store
place seed in a cup of water
check every day untill you see seed crack and or tap root
then place in a 1in deep hole covered with soil, in a 1 gal pot full of soil
water plants ever 2-3 days or when soil is dry
now get a digital thermometer, one with a temperature and a humidity gauge
optional items : heater, a/c, dehumidifier
maintain lights on temps of 70-80 (with co2 you can let it go as high as 95) at lights off stay above 60.
during flowering keep humidity around 40%-60% lights on or off (the dryer the better)
when you see a sprout
re. young plants can live on the nutes that are already in every soil no need to add any nutes at this time just water
water plants ever 2-3 days or when soil is dry, try not to over water and add no fertilizer
place light (26 or 42 watt CFL 2700k warm with hood and clamp) over it keeping light as close as 2-4 in.
one bulb type can be used from start to finish, but better results can be had by switching bulb color at dirferant growth stages
...........cfl 6500 Kelvin (cool blueish/ white color spectrum) =to mh used for vegging bushing stem leaf
...........cfl 2700 Kelvin (warm redish/orange color spectrum) =to hps used for blooming fruiting budding
as the plant gets bigger add more light (if you use mh or hps follow light distance
guidelines, you'll find out more about them as you advance in you grow skill)
now time for veg growth
get a light with hood (and put it on an on/off timer set timer for 18/6)
water plants ever 2-3 days or when soil is dry
after 2 weeks of just plain water introduce nutes at 1/4 strength, every other water
when picking nutes (fertilizer)NPK try to keep it simple
for veg pick a nute high in N and low in PK
for flowering pick a nute high in P and low in NK
N: nitrogen is used to stimulate new vegetative growth and overall health.
P2O5: phosphorus oxide is used to stimulate flower development and rooting.
K2O: potassium oxide is used to stimulate stem growth and overall health
a great fert for beginners are any tomato plant ferterlizer
inrich air with co2 if you gat it (not needed if less then 6 plants, just open a window or pump in fresh air)
after 2wks too a months of vegging its time to sex and flower
tranpants to a 3-5gal pot
if still useing CFL's double or triple the amount of lights (the more light the more dence and bigger the buds will be)
set timer for 12/12 (depending on strain plants can double even triple in size (height) in this stage)
this will show sex and flower your plants, giving you smokable buds
keep the female's they grow white hairs
discard the males they grow grape like ball clusters (pollen sacs)
discard the hermi they grow both sex (re. if it has balls on it discard it)
give it 2 wks of 12/12 then increase nutes
lights will stay on 12/12 untill finish which could be 8-14 wks depending on strain dominates :
short plant with fat wide leaf = indica dom = 8-10 wks,
tall plant with long skiny leaf = sativa dom = 10-14 wks
by far the best way to tell when the plant is ready to harvest is by looking at the trichome
you want to harvest at about a 40%-50% red to white ratio. you will need a minimum 30x zoom microscope (radio shack)
flush plant by feeding plain water no nutes for last 2 wks (improves taste)
cut, hang, dry 5-7 days @ 40%-50% humidity
smoke
or
cure:
place in mason jars sealed tight for 12hr in a dark place
open jar and take buds out and let dry for 30m to 1hr or untill dry to touch
replace in jars resealed in a dark place
repeat this for 2wks to a month or untill buds nolonger become wet in jar after 12hr
now smoke
or seal away for long term store

rules to a successful longterm grow
1. tell NOone
2. NEVER ever break rule 1
3. dont grow where you dont own
4. restrict weapons of any kind on property
5. be seen, but keep a low profile in community
6. suppress or eliminate odors emanating from grow room
7. pay your bills
8. descretly acquire & place items
9. descretly despose of waste
10. don't talk to the police. if caught tell them your name and ask for your lawyer. say nothing, sign
nothing. sign nothing that says you said nothing. ask for your lawyer
HOPED SOMETHING IN THIS HELPED
 

nattyhead357

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and for That 5hit... I just took a GB.. so i am unable to read that much... I will take a look in a couple of hours...
 

nattyhead357

Well-Known Member
resulting in it growing lanky
Do you know how he can salvage it? put lights on the sides maybe. We are trying to avoid topping as we have never topped a plant and are scared of killing the mother plant.
 

That 5hit

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Do you know how he can salvage it? put lights on the sides maybe. We are trying to avoid topping as we have never topped a plant and are scared of killing the mother plant.
with topping you cant go wrong
if you cut to much you will still get the effect you want of at least 2 tops
 

boomdiddly

Member
bump...

And when is it okay to start nutes?

BTW That 5hit... good info in that previous post. Thanks
I'm no expert (haven't even started my grow yet) but from what i've heard it depends on the soil your using and how much nutes it has in it to start with, i've heard most soils have enough for the first 2 weeks, sure if i'm wrong someone will be along to help

:joint:
 

nattyhead357

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I have just been misting with a EXTREMELY diluted nute solution. I don't see how that can be to harmful.

I have one seedling with droppy leafs... any suggestions?
 
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