exotic and greenpoint seeds

everything is somebody elses work shit how the hell do u get something that ant travel the ends of the world to obtain it, pollen chucker is just a sugar coated word for somebody who don't like a piticular breeder, if hes takeing the time to collect pollen or grow out males to flower with his clone only strains then to me hes a breeder why do people get mad when someone starts a seed business and alls they do is use cross or a special male to hit everything with, who cares we got to get the strains from somewhere, I understand this breeder took this strain and bx 3 times then f2 it to f5 and been working with it for a lot of years to me this is a certain type of breeding there are many types of breeding gu just choose this one, if there making seeds and following up with good customer service and replaceing beans that didn't germ then keep up the good work hes a breeder in my book im sure he will find a strain that he likes and bx or inbreed it and what not and work with it just give the man sometime one thing that did confuse me alittle was giving out testers then the same day they were for sale on thcfarmer, ur either going to go the tester route or not don't do both but the demand is high so really it don't matter idk just my two cents im tring to think how u come a breeder without using other peeps work and I don't understand how u do it, if I take other peeps work and f2 up to a f6 and sell it does that make it my work in reality no if I cross other peeps work then bx then f4 it does that make it mine, im confused

look at what snowhigh puts out. breeder take landraces and make something. i dont dislike greenpoint at all and like i said yeah gu is a good guy but hell no to the breeder part any moron can collect other peoples work and put them together. he does nothing of his own other than offer his beans at a correct price for what hes doin. the strains arent tested all that well or worked to make them his. 1+2=3 is what he does. no refined strains for sure and people would rather have the strains hes crossin more than his crosses from everything ive heard. no hate comin from me or dislike but damn lable it for what it is

idk man I like to think of myself as a breeder but from what u say im just a common pollen chucker, I guess until I get sum landraces or find sum killer phenol and make new crosses then back cross it I guess then its my work idk im confused

lil update I popped 5 of my east coast sour diesel and 5 of my super purple and 5 of my super qrazy so im really siked to see what these pollen chucks can do, I made an awesome cross that I know for a fact is going to be great the mom is kimbo kush and the dad is, well I cant tell u that its a secret going to be my go to weed, I hope to god the pollen took all man its going to be straight head stash u wait in see

I forget if I post this or not but I hit my hugh ass gorillagrapegush with my spirit in the sky male and I hit a purple optimus prime with my secret pollen also going to be sick

You guys both make some good points. I agree with worm that it was kinda strange to be passing out testers and then start selling them.... but as chirim pointed out, the price is right. Cudos to him for that.

Its true that Gu didn't create any of the genetics he's working with, but that can be said about some other breeders as well.
It says good things about both companies in this thread that I have a buddy with a cookies n cream x stardawg that looks very very nice

And I guess nice things about jjnyc as well, but we all know that stardawg is fire...

st0wandgrow said:

You guys both make some good points. I agree with worm that it was kinda strange to be passing out testers and then start selling them.... but as chirim pointed out, the price is right. Cudos to him for that.

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What exactly is the right price for an untested chuck job?

VirtualHerd said:

What exactly is the right price for an untested chuck job?

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I believe he was offering them for $30 to $35 a pack. Considering the lineage of the crosses I think that's a reasonable price.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head

st0wandgrow said:

I believe he was offering them for $30 to $35 a pack. Considering the lineage of the crosses I think that's a reasonable price.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head

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My point is there should be no price for untested beans. The fact that we are debating this shows how low this industry has sunk. Sadly growers seem to have very low standards when it comes to what they are willing to pay for.

VirtualHerd said:

My point is there should be no price for untested beans. The fact that we are debating this shows how low this industry has sunk. Sadly growers seem to have very low standards when it comes to what they are willing to pay for.

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I don't really disagree, but considering that there are companies out there charging 3-4x what Greenpoint is for similar pollen chucks then i don't see this as too egregious.

If people are willing to roll the dice a bit on some potentially unstable genetics I'm sure there will be some great plants to be found. Myself, I won't bother. I have too many other seeds from other breeders that I'm interested in running....but I don't begrudge others that chose to do so.

worm i wasnt tryin to beat you.down and im sorry if it came out that way. to me a breeder is just something different than what most breeders today really are. im not sayin they have crap because alot of them throw out fire no doubt but its all on someone elses work. i think a breeder is someone who say takes a wild thai and works that line to get the traits he wants stable and showing in most phenos then havind say a pure indica from the herat region that he has worked to be stable and show the desired traits and crossing them and working it. it takes alot of time and space and money to do that but the rewards are awesome. i think for those reasons thats why alof of todays breeders arent doing that and also because they want a quick $$$. that is why i have so much more respect for guys like snowhigh and outfallgenetics and a few others.

i will say tho that i do like the way greenpoint clearly lables out what is in his strains and doesnt try to hide it under a name or change the names of shit. thats half the problem today is that people like something or have something similar and call it something else and it has stuff so screwed up. like i said tho i wasnt disliming anyone or tryin to be a dick worm just have a different point of view on it i guess and may hace come across wrong sayin it.

its all good bro this is what its all about ant nothing wrong with a good debate, I myself am just trying to figure what make a strain legit because im slowly but surely transitioning into breeding or pollen chucking as time goes on its more addicting then growing, im limited to what I can do with plant counts I can hold 40 5 gallon pots in my flower room so its tight I don't have a whole lot to work with and I want my shit to be a 100%, ive bought a lot of gear most of it high dollar and seen a lot of shit with great breeders ive made simple cross that out perform a lot of strain so to me if someone makes cross and there at the right price im going to buy them even if it ant tested or not I take the responsiability if they hermi on me, a lot of breeders I can name a lot that have other peeps work then they make a cross and find an awesome male and then hit it with everything and make more hybrids and cross and our now selling beans in the 140 doll hair range so are they pollen chuckers or are they breeders I wish there was a list of the breeders that do the work and the ones that don't and then a list of the breeders that don't but charge a lot, man here I am high as shit rambleing on let me stop

anybody get in on the csi and dirtfarmer drop

Naw wish I had funds, but happy 420 man! I'm amoking on some candy tasting Bb3 x Mc and it has a OG like taste at the end as it cures, so hiiiiiiiiii

sweet im smokeing kosher alienz and sum qrazytrain f2 shatter took off work cause of the rain now its sunny outside fuckin sucks

bigworm6969 said:

sweet im smokeing kosher alienz and sum qrazytrain f2 shatter took off work cause of the rain now its sunny outside fuckin sucks

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Kick back, put up your feet and feel vibrations of those herbs. Slow it down for the day, stop and smell the roses.

st0wandgrow said:

I don't really disagree, but considering that there are companies out there charging 3-4x what Greenpoint is for similar pollen chucks then i don't see this as too egregious.

If people are willing to roll the dice a bit on some potentially unstable genetics I'm sure there will be some great plants to be found. Myself, I won't bother. I have too many other seeds from other breeders that I'm interested in running....but I don't begrudge others that chose to do so.

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theyre always people saying hermies there hermies here ALL THE TIME. i think people believe too much what they read on google rather than buying the seeds for themselves and actually growing them out to be that living proof. i have seeds coming from greenpoint (and CV another hermie hype), didnt buy them for who they are.... i bought them because a pack of 12+ gg#4 x polar bear OG for 46$ is a crazy bargain... thats 2gs of top top shelf... i'll make more money out of it ANYWAYS! give them hermies some love, would you throw away your kid for being bisexual? hahaha i went too far. early 420 start....

forgot to mention HAPPY 420 EVERYONE!

so he took stardawg n hit chem 4? and expects jj to be cool with it? lol he pops testers from 303, the fems were questionable and he still used the males? but fat marty does this with a grape stomper and hes unethical? stealing intellectual property? i must be missing something....some nice nugporn besides the politics.