Exceedingly Quick Question For Anyone With a Grow Tent

whiterino

Member
Fan SizeCapacity
(M³ Per Hr)
HVK 100-A1100mm (4")175HVK 125-A1125mm (5")225HVK 125-L1125mm (5")410HVK 150-A1150mm (6")420HVK 150-L1150mm (6")680HVK 200-A1200mm (8")750HVK 200-L1200mm (8")950HVK 250-A1250mm (10")780HVK 250-L1250mm (10")1000HVK 315-A1315mm (12")1300HVK 315-L1315mm (12")
1800​

To calculate the size of fan you require simply follow these instructions:
Measure the Height, Length and Width (in metres) of the growing environment.
Multiply together (H x L x W) to give the cubic meter volume.
Multiply this figure by 20.
This is the size of fan required to change the air 20 times in an hour
as fan hanging the fans buy straps and hand them from the roof poles
 
Thanks sofaking much. Exellent X brace idea. Welding ? My homebox frame is powder-coated, thin-walled tubing, so i'm thinkin plywood gussets ? You da man, what u think ?
 
Found a length of 1/2" elec. conduit in the old garage. Conduit is slightly larger in dia. than the homebox tubing, but conduit has thicker tubing walls. I'll just cut to size between the vertical support posts, spaypaint white, warmup the old glue gun, and space them at 24" centers. The glue gun wont make the tent any stronger, but the cupping will be eliminated. Thanks sofaking much for the inspiration EYESOFSNAKE :eyesmoke:
Thanks sofaking much. Exellent X brace idea. Welding ? My homebox frame is powder-coated, thin-walled tubing, so i'm thinkin plywood gussets ? You da man, what u think ?
 

EyezofSnake

Well-Known Member
I used a wire wheel to clean paint on each of the poles. I used a miller arc-welder on about 90-100amps and a 6013 flux-coated stick to weld the bar stock (1/8 or 1/16 can't remember) to the poles. I also have the bars welded where they cross at the X.

You could also drill a hole in the end of each bar stock and secure it using twine.
 

quietgardener

Active Member
Ventilation rates are a little bit trickier than most folks realize. This message will deal with ventilation into and out of the grow tent. I've found that if you do this correctly, you only need a small fan to circulate the air inside the tent. Typically a 4" or 6" propeller fan will do it.


First, it is very unlikely that the ventilation rate supplied by the manufacturer of the fan is close to what you are actually ventilating at. It is likely to be choked by the ductwork or carbon filter. A good conservative estimate is 50 cfm with 4 inch duct, 120 cfm with 6 inch duct and 250 cfm with 8 inch duct.

Second, everybody is usually trying to accomplish 3 different goals with ventilation: temperature control, humidity control, and (optionally) odor control.

Temperature control: The airflow you need is dependent on your exhaust air temperature and your makeup air temperature. If you don't have exhaust ducting connected up to your lights, the temp in your grow tent is your exhaust temp. If you have ventilated lights, 50-70% of the heat generated by the lights is exhausted directly, allowing higher exhaust temps than the tent temperature. For non- cooled lights, add up total watts in the grow tent and use the following formula for vent rate in cubic feet per minute:

cfm = watts x 3.54 / [(Tin - Texh) x 1.1]
Tin = temp of makeup air in farenheit
Texh = Temp desired in tent

Example: for a tent with 400W of lights and a desired temp of 80 degrees located in a 70 degree room needs 128 cfm of exhaust. If the light is ducted to the exhaust, you only need about 50% of 128 cfm, or 65 cfm. I'd use a 6 exhaust fan unducted and a 4 inch fan ducted.

Humidity Control:
Definition- we all talk about humidity in terms of relative humidity. Relative humidity measures the % amount of moisture in the air before it cannot hold any more moisture. How much moisture air can hold is very dependent on temperature. Warmer air holds more moisture, so heating up air will lower the relative humidity, all other things remaining the same.

The ventilation required for humidity control is more dependent on the make-up air humidity and temperature than anything else. Ventilation rate isn't nearly as important here if the incoming humidity is reasonable. Typically it's going to be far less than required for temperature control if done properly. Where most people get into trouble is they exhaust their grow tent into the room and pull the make-up air from the same room back into the tent, or they locate their grow tent somewhere dank and cool, or they locate it in an attic that is not well ventilated. This means that as the water in the air builds up in the space where the grow tent is, the water in the air inside the grow tent also goes up. While the lights are on, it's not so bad (in the tent anyway) because warm air can hold more moisture than cold air , but when the lights go off, the ability of the air to hold moisture drops and condensation occurs. The only way to solve these problems is with a dehumidifier or ventilating the space where the grow tent is located.

If you can exhaust your grow tent at 6 air changes per hour (100% change in air every 10 minutes) and you still have a humidity problem, it most likely is a humidity problem from the make-up air and needs to be addressed outside your grow tent. An exception of course is CO2 addition where you can't exhaust your grow tent. In this case, the best solution is a dehumidifier at night and an air conditioner during the day.

Example: 6 Air changes per hour in a 2 foot by 4 foot by 6 foot grow tent = 6 x 4 x 2 x 6 / 60 = 5 cubic feet per minute!

Odor Control:

Depending on your plants (I'm looking at you, AK-47!) you cannot keep the odor under control inside the tent. The most effective method by far is to keep the air movement into your tent and pass 100% of the exhaust air through a carbon filter or ozone generator. all openings into your tent should have an air movement velocity of at least 50 feet per minute (this comes from the diffusion velocity of odors. It can be higher than that depending on molecule size).

Example: In my case, I have a 6 x 12 opening for make-up air (giving an effective area of 0.5 square feet). I need to pull at least 25 cfm of air through that opening for a velocity of 50 feet per minute. All the other openings probably add up to to a bit more, so I need something like 50 CFM exhaust either though a filter, or in my case, up a chimney to 40 feet above the ground.

Hope this helps.


-Q
 

dbo24242

New Member
typically an oscillating fan has a floor mount and a stand and it pivots on the stand.... the kind you attach to things need more room than a corner to operate. you might be better off with a regular clamp fan to clamp on there or even a small height adjustable fan. I don't even use one cuz heat aint an issue but I could see why using one would be good.
 

Bob Smith

Well-Known Member
Well, I've officially said "fuck fans".

Putting together my Sun Hut XL today (the one I was referring to when I started this thread was my Sun Hut LG), and I thought I was super clever and prepared because I was going to duct tape my 16" oscillating fan to the poles before I pulled the skin over them.

Well, one look at the fan and the poles and I quickly realized that wasn't going to work (I guess I'll mount the fan in my workout room instead).

So then I said "okay, I'll just use the clip-on fan that wouldn't fit in my LG, no problem", and even that little sonuvabitch didn't want to stay on the pole.

I'm hoping that I'll just have enough airflow with the 4" inline for intake and my 6" inline for exhaust, and if not I'll figure something else out.

It'd be really nice if the tent makers would've put a touch more thought into a mounting bracket for an oscillating fan, but since other people have done it, I guess the blame rests squarely on the man in the mirror.

Oh well, pics will be up in my journal later on tonight - tent's up but I haven't installed any of the "guts" yet.
 
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