Examples of GOP Leadership

DIY-HP-LED

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A Michigan GOP lawmaker introduced a bill that would require "fact checkers" to register with the state and post a $1 million fidelity bond to publish.
Let's see, a war on democracy, the rule of law, the constitution and now truth itself. So these people are suppose to win back the house in 2020, if they do, America won't be a democracy any more, because the system is broken and so are enough of the people. Anybody who votes for the republicans is not responsible enough to hold the franchise, or to act in their own self interest. If these people can vote republican after the events of the past 5 years and especially since January 6th, you might as well drop the voting age to 5 years old. I'm beginning to doubt the value of universal adult suffrage since Trump came on the scene. When the tweeted brain farts of a moronic sociopath can bring a country to its knees, it makes me wonder.

America needs to upgrade it's voters over the next 20 years and make some changes to the law and perhaps add a couple of states. If the republicans win the house and senate in 2022 you're fucked, it will be the end of the USA as we know it and the beginning of a real civil war. Even if they lose the election they will ignore the electorate in many states and just say that they won anyway. What's the slap on the wrist, if any, for trying to steal an election or conspire to disenfranchise millions of citizens. Fuck all is the answer, provided they are even charged.
 

HGCC

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'RINO' used to mean Donald Trump. Now it means Liz Cheney ...

“When Donald Trump entered the 2016 presidential race, he was dismissed early on as a RINO — a Republican in Name Only — by Republicans across the spectrum.”

“But now that Trump is the Republican lodestar, heresy isn’t measured in terms of conservatism, but fealty to him. And the term RINO may as well refer to Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) — whose solid conservatism is out of step with today’s GOP.”
I would call it embarrassing, but welp, there is no civil war within the gop. They are loud and proud with trumpism, just purging and purifying the ranks.
 

printer

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GOP votes to dump Cheney from leadership
In an extraordinary bow to former President Trump, House Republicans voted Wednesday to purge GOP Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney from her leadership post, punishing the conservative Wyoming Republican for daring to refute Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was stolen.

The decision was made by voice vote, meaning there will be no tally of the lawmakers who voted to dump Cheney, or of those who wanted her to stay on. Sources inside the closed-door vote said it was an overwhelming vote against Cheney. Some guessed the split was three to one.

Less than 30 minutes before the GOP gathering, Trump weighed in with another broadside against Cheney, accusing her of promoting unnecessary wars in a message that paved the way for Republicans to oust her shortly afterward. After the vote, he attacked Cheney again in a highly personal message characterizing her as a “warmonger.”

“She has no personality or anything good having to do with politics or our Country,” Trump said in a brief statement.

Amid all the attacks, Cheney has not backed down.

“I will do everything I can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the Oval Office,” Cheney said before a bank of television cameras after the vote.
 

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Influential Republicans threaten to form new party
Dozens of Republicans are planning to call for reforms amid escalating divisions within their party and are threatening to form a separate group if GOP members do not break away from former President Trump.

The more than 100 former Republican officials are expected to release their demands in a letter on Thursday titled "A Call For American Renewal," according to plans shared with Reuters and later reported by NBC News.

The letter states that Republicans must "either reimagine a party dedicated to our founding ideals or else hasten the creation of such an alternative,” according to NBC News.

One of the organizers of the effort is Miles Taylor, the former Trump administration official who last year revealed that he penned the initially anonymous 2018 New York Times op-ed titled "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration."

"The Republican Party is broken. It's time for a resistance of the 'rationals' against the 'radicals,'" Taylor told Reuters, referring to those in the party who still faithfully align themselves with Trump.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Influential Republicans threaten to form new party
Dozens of Republicans are planning to call for reforms amid escalating divisions within their party and are threatening to form a separate group if GOP members do not break away from former President Trump.

The more than 100 former Republican officials are expected to release their demands in a letter on Thursday titled "A Call For American Renewal," according to plans shared with Reuters and later reported by NBC News.

The letter states that Republicans must "either reimagine a party dedicated to our founding ideals or else hasten the creation of such an alternative,” according to NBC News.

One of the organizers of the effort is Miles Taylor, the former Trump administration official who last year revealed that he penned the initially anonymous 2018 New York Times op-ed titled "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration."

"The Republican Party is broken. It's time for a resistance of the 'rationals' against the 'radicals,'" Taylor told Reuters, referring to those in the party who still faithfully align themselves with Trump.
They are only a fraction of republicans, the war has been won, Trump owns the morons of America. What they can do is run conservatives against the Trump candidates and try to split the republican vote, thus denying them office, act as spoilers. When Liz Cheny is primaried next year, she can run as an independent and siphon off republican votes, it might not be effective in her district, but in others it will deny the republicans enough votes to win.

Their objective is not to win the elections, but to make sure the republicans lose by splitting the vote. If the GOP wins power by cheating, there will be real civil war, not the fake Trump bullshit kind either. If the republicans win power they will destroy themselves and probably 240 years of American democracy. If it gets real bad in the states, they won't like USA version 2.0 at all, if they have to start from scratch again.
 

hanimmal

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A Michigan GOP lawmaker introduced a bill that would require "fact checkers" to register with the state and post a $1 million fidelity bond to publish.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/12/michigan-matt-maddock-fact-checkers/
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Michigan state Rep. Matt Maddock and his wife, Michigan Republican Party co-chair Meshawn Maddock, have repeatedly been called out by fact-checking journalists for promotingbaseless claims of widespread voter fraud and falsely suggesting that covid-19 is comparable to the flu.

Now, the Republican lawmaker wants to create new obstacles for fact-checkers who might challenge politicians over unsubstantiated claims.

“My legislation will put Fact Checkers on notice: don’t be wrong, don’t be sloppy, and you better be right,”
Maddock wrote in a Facebook post announcing his proposal last week.

Maddock’s bill, the Fact Checker Registration Act, was introduced Tuesday and would require fact-checkers to register with the state and insure themselves with $1 million fidelity bonds. Any fact-checker who did not register with the state could face a $1,000 per day fine. The proposed legislation would also allow anyone to sue a fact-checker over “any wrongful conduct that is a violation of the laws of this state.”

Critics argued that the bill would violate the Constitution’s protections for free speech. “This is an affront to the First Amendment,” state Sen. Jeremy Moss, a Democrat, told the Detroit News.

Maddock and his wife have had a contentious relationship with fact-checkers and other journalists who have questioned their public claims.

The Maddocks have been at the forefront of conservative efforts in Michigan to combat coronavirus restrictions, and they backed attempts to undermine the 2020 election results.

The state lawmaker joined an effort to impeach Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) over her coronavirus restrictions as cases spiked last fall. In December, Maddock was one of two Michigan legislators who joined a federal lawsuit challenging Joe Biden’s presidential election victory, though he later sought to have his name removed after the suit was filed, the Detroit News reported.

He and his wife traveled to Washington on Jan. 5 and 6 to attend “Stop the Steal” rallies, the Detroit Free Press reported, and Maddock spoke to a crowd gathered near the Capitol before the deadly insurrection.
(The Maddocks later condemned the violence that happened later that day.)

Not long after, the couple joined a Facebook group where members were discussing the possibility of a civil war following the insurrection, the Free Press reported. Michigan Democrats tried to censure Maddock, charging that he “perpetuated conspiracy theories and election fraud lies” in the weeks leading up to the riot at the Capitol.

In recent weeks, Maddock has been stoking suspicion against fact-checkers on his social media accounts.

In April, he posted a photo of himself wearing a shirt that said “Goolag” in the same style as the Google logo. He asked his followers if they were tired of fact-checkers “only body-checking conservatives” and suggested that the public was in the dark about who was fact-checking politicians’ claims.

“Don’t we deserve to know who they are?” he wrote.

Last week, he announced his bill to challenge fact-checkers “who relish their role punishing those whom they deem ‘false’.” He also claimed, without providing evidence, that fact-checkers have unfairly targeted conservative politicians.

“Many believe this enormous economic and social power is being abused,” he wrote on Facebook. “Who are these Fact Checkers? We’re going to find out.”

Despite First Amendment protections that bar the government from abridging the freedom of the press, Maddock is far from the first lawmaker to suggest creating a government registry for journalists.

In 2016, a South Carolina lawmaker floated a bill that would have allowed the state to vet journalists and only allow the ones deemed “responsible” to do their work. He later claimed the proposal was a political stunt.

Another state lawmaker in Indiana drafted legislation in 2017 that would have required journalists to get licenses. As recently as 2019, Georgia politicians considered creating a “Journalism Ethics Board” to enforce state-imposed restrictions on reporters.

All of those proposals were widely panned as likely First Amendment violations and did not gain enough support to become law.
 

schuylaar

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GOP votes to dump Cheney from leadership
In an extraordinary bow to former President Trump, House Republicans voted Wednesday to purge GOP Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney from her leadership post, punishing the conservative Wyoming Republican for daring to refute Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was stolen.

The decision was made by voice vote, meaning there will be no tally of the lawmakers who voted to dump Cheney, or of those who wanted her to stay on. Sources inside the closed-door vote said it was an overwhelming vote against Cheney. Some guessed the split was three to one.

Less than 30 minutes before the GOP gathering, Trump weighed in with another broadside against Cheney, accusing her of promoting unnecessary wars in a message that paved the way for Republicans to oust her shortly afterward. After the vote, he attacked Cheney again in a highly personal message characterizing her as a “warmonger.”

“She has no personality or anything good having to do with politics or our Country,” Trump said in a brief statement.

Amid all the attacks, Cheney has not backed down.

“I will do everything I can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the Oval Office,” Cheney said before a bank of television cameras after the vote.
join us Liz..the dark side is waiting..join us..join us..join.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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That would put them under penalty of perjury and if their facts are verified, it should have consequences in court for those who they accuse of wrong doing. I can see how such a law can be turned on them.

What do the republican prospects look like in Michigan in 2022? Have the antics of the past 6 months had any impact at all? Will the win the statehouse and senate again or accept a loss?
 

TacoMac

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Influential Republicans threaten to form new party
Dozens of Republicans are planning to call for reforms amid escalating divisions within their party and are threatening to form a separate group if GOP members do not break away from former President Trump.

The more than 100 former Republican officials are expected to release their demands in a letter on Thursday titled "A Call For American Renewal," according to plans shared with Reuters and later reported by NBC News.

The letter states that Republicans must "either reimagine a party dedicated to our founding ideals or else hasten the creation of such an alternative,” according to NBC News.

One of the organizers of the effort is Miles Taylor, the former Trump administration official who last year revealed that he penned the initially anonymous 2018 New York Times op-ed titled "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration."

"The Republican Party is broken. It's time for a resistance of the 'rationals' against the 'radicals,'" Taylor told Reuters, referring to those in the party who still faithfully align themselves with Trump.
He has no chance of pulling that off.

The only way Trump goes away is if Charles Koch himself steps up to the mic and says, "No more money for any of you until Trump is gone and forgotten."

Trump would be gone immediately. It would be as if he never existed.
 

hanimmal

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That would put them under penalty of perjury and if their facts are verified, it should have consequences in court for those who they accuse of wrong doing. I can see how such a law can be turned on them.

What do the republican prospects look like in Michigan in 2022? Have the antics of the past 6 months had any impact at all? Will the win the statehouse and senate again or accept a loss?
It is going to be tough, but luckily (intelligently) there was a vote on having a bi partisan commission redraw our districts, so really we don't really know what is going to happen.

Which is why the insurectionist/Tea Party/Liberty University Republicans are working every bit of the trolls they can to keep power out of the Democrats hands much like they have for the last three decades.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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He has no chance of pulling that off.

The only way Trump goes away is if Charles Koch himself steps up to the mic and says, "No more money for any of you until Trump is gone and forgotten."

Trump would be gone immediately. It would be as if he never existed.
The base is in control of the beast now, not the stuffed shirts, and Trump owns the base and will even from prison. Charles Koch has lost control of the situation as have all the big donors. The only purpose the republican party will have soon is to keep Trump out of prison, pay his legal fees and spring him from prison once he is there. Nothing else will matter to Donald except getting out of a cell and an orange jump suit, and nothing else will matter to the party base either. The republicans are about to be a single issue party, keep Trump out of prison, that will be it, he needs absolute "loyalty" for that.
 

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McCarthy claims no one 'questioning the legitimacy' of the 2020 election
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) insisted Wednesday that no one in his party is questioning the legitimacy of the 2020 election, hours after House Republicans voted to purge Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) from her leadership position for repeatedly calling out former President Trump for his falsehoods about the election being “stolen” from him.

“I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election. I think that is all over with. We’re sitting here with the president today. From that point of view, I don’t think that’s a problem,” McCarthy said following a meeting with President Biden and other congressional leaders at the White House.

I thought ex-President Trump was questioning the legitimacy of the election and a current elected official corrected him. I am so confused.
 

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The base is in control of the beast now, not the stuffed shirts, and Trump owns the base and will even from prison. Charles Koch has lost control of the situation as have all the big donors. The only purpose the republican party will have soon is to keep Trump out of prison, pay his legal fees and spring him from prison once he is there. Nothing else will matter to Donald except getting out of a cell and an orange jump suit, and nothing else will matter to the party base either. The republicans are about to be a single issue party, keep Trump out of prison, that will be it, he needs absolute "loyalty" for that.
Trump is sitting on 250 million and has the power to primary any in his way.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump is sitting on 250 million and has the power to primary any in his way.
I think since he had to give a bunch of money back it's less now and his prechecked box fraud scheme is about to be made illegal. Soon Donald, the republican base that he controls and the republican party who they control, will have one purpose, to the exclusion of all others, even getting elected, keeping Donald out of prison. He will have the entire GOP congress dancing and freaking out on the courthouse steps before he goes to prison. You ain't seen anything yet, just wait until Donald is facing prison and an orange jump suit. He will win the GOP nomination for 2024 from his cell, state or federal, take yer pick.
 

TacoMac

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McCarthy claims no one 'questioning the legitimacy' of the 2020 election
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) insisted Wednesday that no one in his party is questioning the legitimacy of the 2020 election, hours after House Republicans voted to purge Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) from her leadership position for repeatedly calling out former President Trump for his falsehoods about the election being “stolen” from him.

“I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election. I think that is all over with. We’re sitting here with the president today. From that point of view, I don’t think that’s a problem,” McCarthy said following a meeting with President Biden and other congressional leaders at the White House.

I thought ex-President Trump was questioning the legitimacy of the election and a current elected official corrected him. I am so confused.
He said that right after a meeting at the White House.

He sort of sounds like a man that was just told the DOJ is looking into his actions on the 6th of January.
 
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