Evolution Is A Theory On Which You Base A Religion

hanimmal · Sep 2, 2009

i dont know if it can or not but i do know it has not been proven

But yet you chose to believe so ardently on one theory that is the most dogmatic and offers the least amount of proof?

hanimmal · Sep 2, 2009

None of that proves anything, but again either does this, but it is interesting to see things lined up.

hanimmal · Sep 2, 2009

Nor this:

But it does help to see the picture.

what... huh? · Sep 2, 2009

Let me ask the creation folks this...

If we do not evolve, why did we spend so much time in caves?

Lets move beyond the stone age which you may or may not believe in. Let's start at 5000 bc. Why did it take over 6000 years to get where we are as a civilization? Why were we shorter with lower life spans? Why did it take so long to reach the age of enlightenment? Why was the bronze age so slow going? Why have we come further faster in EVERY marker which defines civilization in the last 200 years than the several millennia preceding? Faster in the last 50 years than the previous 200?

If we had the capabilities to achieve what we have... and DIDN'T have TV... why did it take millennia.

If you and I are both not evidence of our evolution...

What possible evidence WOULD you accept?

fish601 · Sep 2, 2009

crap you got me on the bush monkey look alike :wall:

naw really you do realize that that can not be proven and the more evidence scientist find the more evolution looks silly

fish601 · Sep 2, 2009

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http://www.knowwhatyoubelieve.com/

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fish601 · Sep 2, 2009

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what... huh? · Sep 2, 2009

fish601 said:
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http://www.knowwhatyoubelieve.com/

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Know what YOU believe... and render unto Caesar that which is Caesars.

Romans 12.

[SIZE=+1]1Peter 2:13-15[/SIZE]

13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

So... why do you smoke/grow/sell/buy weed?

hanimmal · Sep 3, 2009

crap you got me on the bush monkey look alike

naw really you do realize that that can not be proven and the more evidence scientist find the more evolution looks silly

Your being fed false information. The evidence that keeps being found further backs up evolution. See this is the difference between science and religion. In science when new evidence is found it has the power to alter everything. If new evidence was found that would dispute evolution it would be one of the biggest stories in the world.

You don't want to learn about that though. You don't want to learn that when the dinosaurs went extinct it allowed the then very small mammals to thrive and grow and evolve into the dominant species on the planet. And from the mouse and other mammals you can pretty much follow the evidence to almost every mammal today.

If you would just do what you had said you were doing and let go and actually try to learn it you would be surprised at how interesting and complex our world is. It will still leave you room for god too.

OregonMeds · Sep 3, 2009

hanimmal said:
Your being fed false information. The evidence that keeps being found further backs up evolution. See this is the difference between science and religion. In science when new evidence is found it has the power to alter everything. If new evidence was found that would dispute evolution it would be one of the biggest stories in the world.

You don't want to learn about that though. You don't want to learn that when the dinosaurs went extinct it allowed the then very small mammals to thrive and grow and evolve into the dominant species on the planet. And from the mouse and other mammals you can pretty much follow the evidence to almost every mammal today.

If you would just do what you had said you were doing and let go and actually try to learn it you would be surprised at how interesting and complex our world is. It will still leave you room for god too.

He may want to learn but he can't. People this invested in religion, who base their whole lives and belief system upon it can't give it up so eaily or even seriously consider they may have been totally wrong all along.

It would be as devastating to him as loosing his entire family in a car wreck, loosing his house to fire and loosing his job all in the same week. Could wipe out his entire will to live so his subconscious won't even allow it serious consideration out of simple self preservation.

fish601 · Sep 3, 2009

what... huh? said:
Know what YOU believe... and render unto Caesar that which is Caesars.

Romans 12.

[SIZE=+1]1Peter 2:13-15[/SIZE]

13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

So... why do you smoke/grow/sell/buy weed?

i speed and run stop signs also

hanimmal · Sep 3, 2009

These creatures also have a self destructive nature:

what... huh? · Sep 3, 2009

fish601 said:
i speed and run stop signs also

Do you not find it somewhat pious and at the same time hypocritical to knowingly disobey the word of the Lord Who you are suggesting others follow?

Anonymiss1969 · Sep 3, 2009

what... huh? said:
Do you not find it somewhat pious and at the same time hypocritical to knowingly disobey the word of the Lord Who you are suggesting others follow?

Don't waste your time talkin to fish about religion. He's doesn't know much about the religion he follows.

what... huh? · Sep 3, 2009

It's a fair question.

hitch420 · Sep 4, 2009

what... huh? said:
It's a fair question.

True lol
but we can all agree that the marijuana law is bullshit though?

The ten comandments show that we all fall short of his expectations, (All christians sin(fact)) so god gave his only son to die on the cross and take the punishment, for us who believe and repent of our sins.

hanimmal · Sep 4, 2009

There is something fundamentally messed up to me about a religion that the whole basis of how to get to the next level (heaven) was through the torturing and ultimately killing of someone.

Stoney McFried · Sep 4, 2009

But dude, why should anyone accept such guilt?It's all a big guilt trip to make people feel unworthy.That they "need" this salvation, and only those in power, the priests,the church, can give it to them.The lower your self esteem,the less you fight back.Because you feel you "deserve" punishment. :leaf:

hitch420 said:
True lol
but we can all agree that the marijuana law is bullshit though?

The ten comandments show that we all fall short of his expectations, (All christians sin(fact)) so god gave his only son to die on the cross and take the punishment, for us who believe and repent of our sins.

hitch420 · Sep 4, 2009

Anonymiss1969 said:
Don't waste your time talkin to fish about religion. He's doesn't know much about the religion he follows.

Do you know for an absolute fact that fish is religous?

If so exlain how and dont say because he believes in god because that doesn't fit the criteria of a religion lol

Nocturn3 · Sep 4, 2009

Hitch, I fail to see why you felt the need to PM me regarding this thread. Post your shit here for everyone to discuss please:

hitch420 said:
"So, there is no evidence for evolution, which is not something you have researched. You disbelieve it, whilst not understanding it, you think it would be foolish of you to argue about it without research, yet you post this thread, and you express doubts that others will research things properly, even though you obviously haven't done yourself.

Evolution does not have to be based on belief. If you are excessively stupid or lazy then yes, you can rely on the fact that smart men have already been through all this stuff before, and concluded that it holds true.

However, if you wish to make up your own mind, then simply research the evidence available. Many of us have, to varying degrees, and have done so without bias. Forget about belief completely, and approach it as an exercise in logic and lateral thinking. Also, consider the sources of what you read. Some places are more biased than others, particularly if they have an agenda to push."

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dude its plain easy to see im trying to start an argument about this link to see how you guys can dis credit or credit it.

You can spot it from the title moron

"Evolution is a THeory on which you base a Religion "

its a personal attack lol its provokes responses.

I dont have time to research everything anymore i spend alot more time reading the bible.

so if i make a thread that gets everyone hyped,people present sources and opinions to me and i dont need to waste my life searching for shit that doesnt evan matter.

And before you say it does matter, it doesnt matter to me because it doesnt prove there is no god, but having a dad who is well known for praying for people and "coincidences" happening on cue every time through jesus christ. im talking about real life miracles that doctors can,t explain at all, like cancers disapearing from a patient after prayer after 3 sessions of kemo.
but i cant argue you that in a thread because of lack of evidence on the internet, but honestly its enough for my own belief. after all seeing is believing

I'm honestly not going to grace this with a proper reply, since you have already proved my point better than I ever could. :bigjoint:

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