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Frank Zappa
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thank you my fine gentleman
panhead
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I asked FDD to re open this thread for me so i could respond to all the bullshit in the thread & he kindly did that for me,hopefully he will close this mess right back up.
Just so everybody knows im pretty good at researching folks, i sell high dollar hifi equipment on ebay & ive been SERIOUSLY burned on ebay years back out of a few thousand dollars & learned my lesson,ever since ive employed the leading internet detective service,part of my membership includes unlimited searches of people using their name,email address,IP address,phone number,home address ect,the service has proven to be excellent at digging up even the slightest little shit about a person.
Normally even the best con men leave something squirelly that can be found.
I have been able to find nothing but normal everyday things about this person & no indicators that he is a con man,still this is no excuse no excuse for his assanine behavior.
Natmoon.
Thank you for your posts & i surely understand your concern,you were 100% in the right to post what you did,the internet is a shitty place alot of times & everything in your post was accurate,the reasons you stated are the exact reasons i belong to the dective service that i do,its just too risky to take anybody at their word on anything,thanks again for putting yourself in this mess looking out for my safety,a apolgize to you that you got drug through the mud on my behalf.
Frank Zappa,what and the hell were/are you thinking,first off lets discuss Natmoon,of all the people on this forum there is no member any more helpfull than this man,ive seen him time & time again try to help anybody he can,i have yet to ever see this man do anything negative to any member for any reason,you have to realize that he was only pointing out things that were 100% true,there are lots of scams on the internet & many are from the country you live in,not that i think you are a bad person or a even con man,on the contrary, im pretty damm sure that you are not a con man,scammer or any way related to internet scams, & that you have good intentions.
When i came home & read you bashing natmoon then calling him a pedophile i was floored,there is no deeper insult that can be thrown at any man & one that should never be said to anybody out of anger,its bullshit where accusations like that fucks peoples reputation up,for that i have apologized to natmoon & i meant the aopology,if you could have controled yourself until i got home from the hospital i could have pm'ed any members who doubted your intentions & relayed them the info i dug up about you,this could have put you in a much better light & proved that you were not a bad person or a con artist.
All i wanted to do was to help you,we have extra & we share with people who need/deserve the things we have extra,i had planned on sending you some grow gear after getting it converted to your voltage, & if that couldnt be done just buying you some new gear & having it drop shipped at your home,a few hundred bucks one way or another isnt going to phase me in the least,i could not care less about money but i do care about people,especially peole that i communicate with on a daily basis,what does phase me in a bad way is the shit where you freaked out in this thread & attacked people,not only does it phase me it bumms me directly out.
I also warned you in advance that i would be posting a thread about the help i was trying to get to you, & that i would be requesting help from the membership,how could you not fully expect members to question this.
You have to expect people of being leary of you & me both,especially when i posted a thread asking members to "help me help you",how can you not expect members to question the validity of my request,when you ask for something from people they have every right to post their misgivings about what is asked of them,i understand that you did not ask me for anything nor did you even hint that you wanted anything from me,at no time ever did you ask for anything from me, this i know.
I ASKED THE MEMBERSHIP FOR HELP to help me help you, i offered help & i planned on helping you,but for you to completely freak out & attack members who were only questioning the validity of the request i made of them is just plain lousy,then to accuse a man of being a pedophile with the intention of being as nasty & mean as possible is down right bullshit.
Like ive allready said,i have good reason & information to believe that you are not a thief/con man but the way you've acted in this thread has me seriously re evaluating weather or not i want to be connected in any way with you or ever trying to help out anybody else ever again,its just too much bullshit that i surely dont need in my life,nor does the membership here at rollitup deserve the bullshit attacks that you've thrown at them.
Remember when you asked me why i was helping you when you never asked for any help from me or anybody else ?,my response to you was that we have extra, & that i believe where good things happen to people who do good for others when they can,& that all i wanted from you as repayment was that you offer some act of kindness to somebody else in return ?
Your actions in this thread do not represent the spirit of kindness or sharing in any way & is not something i want to be associated with,you've got some anger issues that need worked on bud.
I apologize to every member of this forum who were attacked or subjected to reading this bullshit,my intent was only to help somebody less fortunate not to stir up a bee's nest,if it were not for the attacks made against Natmoon & others i'd of just let this shit fade away.
I have no reason for this thread to remain open,FDD allowed me to say what i had to say to address the shit that went on in a thread that i started,now if you dont mind FDD could you close this train wreck up again,where you wrote "if i was panhead i'd be pissed" believe me that i am pissed,im not visting this thread ever again & have said all i will ever have to say on this subject.
Just so everybody knows im pretty good at researching folks, i sell high dollar hifi equipment on ebay & ive been SERIOUSLY burned on ebay years back out of a few thousand dollars & learned my lesson,ever since ive employed the leading internet detective service,part of my membership includes unlimited searches of people using their name,email address,IP address,phone number,home address ect,the service has proven to be excellent at digging up even the slightest little shit about a person.
Normally even the best con men leave something squirelly that can be found.
I have been able to find nothing but normal everyday things about this person & no indicators that he is a con man,still this is no excuse no excuse for his assanine behavior.
Natmoon.
Thank you for your posts & i surely understand your concern,you were 100% in the right to post what you did,the internet is a shitty place alot of times & everything in your post was accurate,the reasons you stated are the exact reasons i belong to the dective service that i do,its just too risky to take anybody at their word on anything,thanks again for putting yourself in this mess looking out for my safety,a apolgize to you that you got drug through the mud on my behalf.
Frank Zappa,what and the hell were/are you thinking,first off lets discuss Natmoon,of all the people on this forum there is no member any more helpfull than this man,ive seen him time & time again try to help anybody he can,i have yet to ever see this man do anything negative to any member for any reason,you have to realize that he was only pointing out things that were 100% true,there are lots of scams on the internet & many are from the country you live in,not that i think you are a bad person or a even con man,on the contrary, im pretty damm sure that you are not a con man,scammer or any way related to internet scams, & that you have good intentions.
When i came home & read you bashing natmoon then calling him a pedophile i was floored,there is no deeper insult that can be thrown at any man & one that should never be said to anybody out of anger,its bullshit where accusations like that fucks peoples reputation up,for that i have apologized to natmoon & i meant the aopology,if you could have controled yourself until i got home from the hospital i could have pm'ed any members who doubted your intentions & relayed them the info i dug up about you,this could have put you in a much better light & proved that you were not a bad person or a con artist.
All i wanted to do was to help you,we have extra & we share with people who need/deserve the things we have extra,i had planned on sending you some grow gear after getting it converted to your voltage, & if that couldnt be done just buying you some new gear & having it drop shipped at your home,a few hundred bucks one way or another isnt going to phase me in the least,i could not care less about money but i do care about people,especially peole that i communicate with on a daily basis,what does phase me in a bad way is the shit where you freaked out in this thread & attacked people,not only does it phase me it bumms me directly out.
I also warned you in advance that i would be posting a thread about the help i was trying to get to you, & that i would be requesting help from the membership,how could you not fully expect members to question this.
You have to expect people of being leary of you & me both,especially when i posted a thread asking members to "help me help you",how can you not expect members to question the validity of my request,when you ask for something from people they have every right to post their misgivings about what is asked of them,i understand that you did not ask me for anything nor did you even hint that you wanted anything from me,at no time ever did you ask for anything from me, this i know.
I ASKED THE MEMBERSHIP FOR HELP to help me help you, i offered help & i planned on helping you,but for you to completely freak out & attack members who were only questioning the validity of the request i made of them is just plain lousy,then to accuse a man of being a pedophile with the intention of being as nasty & mean as possible is down right bullshit.
Like ive allready said,i have good reason & information to believe that you are not a thief/con man but the way you've acted in this thread has me seriously re evaluating weather or not i want to be connected in any way with you or ever trying to help out anybody else ever again,its just too much bullshit that i surely dont need in my life,nor does the membership here at rollitup deserve the bullshit attacks that you've thrown at them.
Remember when you asked me why i was helping you when you never asked for any help from me or anybody else ?,my response to you was that we have extra, & that i believe where good things happen to people who do good for others when they can,& that all i wanted from you as repayment was that you offer some act of kindness to somebody else in return ?
Your actions in this thread do not represent the spirit of kindness or sharing in any way & is not something i want to be associated with,you've got some anger issues that need worked on bud.
I apologize to every member of this forum who were attacked or subjected to reading this bullshit,my intent was only to help somebody less fortunate not to stir up a bee's nest,if it were not for the attacks made against Natmoon & others i'd of just let this shit fade away.
I have no reason for this thread to remain open,FDD allowed me to say what i had to say to address the shit that went on in a thread that i started,now if you dont mind FDD could you close this train wreck up again,where you wrote "if i was panhead i'd be pissed" believe me that i am pissed,im not visting this thread ever again & have said all i will ever have to say on this subject.
natmoon
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Its not really bothered me,i just think the guy is insane.
Sorry it got ruined panhead.
I do have to admit that i only have the law as it is written on the internet to go by and everything that i found said that medicinal and recreational use was basically almost the same as amsterdam,they even have coffee shops there.
Anyway you have always been a cool guy to me and others so i just started of with advice as i saw best.
In hindsight i should have not even repsonded to him,i suck at keeping my mouth shut.
Next time i will stay out of these type of talks
Sorry it got ruined panhead.
I do have to admit that i only have the law as it is written on the internet to go by and everything that i found said that medicinal and recreational use was basically almost the same as amsterdam,they even have coffee shops there.
Anyway you have always been a cool guy to me and others so i just started of with advice as i saw best.
In hindsight i should have not even repsonded to him,i suck at keeping my mouth shut.
Next time i will stay out of these type of talks
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