enhancing terpene profiles

casperd

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hi i have been growing in coco and feel like i loose a lot of the terp profiles that i would get in soil and looking for some advice on some coco products that enhance terp profiles or other boosters please help ?
 

casperd

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Terpenes exist in more than cannabis and attempts to increase terpenes in other plants have all been failures. Not able to increase or alter. Not saying it can’t be done but seems like a waste of time.
so what about terpene and smell loss with coco but soil stinks and holds the terp profiles its not genetic
 

Grandpapy

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My 600w impresses, my 1000w disappoints, winter always produces hardier/aromatic buds for me.

In addition to the many variables, with Coco it's very easy to lock out a nutrient that affects the profile with drifting PH, "I just have too much stuff to do in the spring and summer to check it twice."
 

3rd Monkey

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so what about terpene and smell loss with coco but soil stinks and holds the terp profiles its not genetic
Run 2 clones, 1 in soil and 1 in coco. Same nutes. I run in both and I can't tell the difference. I feed with compost and manure teas in both, but I doubt that has much to do with it since they are the same buds, coco just gets there quicker.
 

oldbeancounter

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Run 2 clones, 1 in soil and 1 in coco. Same nutes. I run in both and I can't tell the difference. I feed with compost and manure teas in both, but I doubt that has much to do with it since they are the same buds, coco just gets there quicker.
@3rd Monkey
"coco just gets there quicker"
Interesting, what has your experience been with the differences time wise growing in say pro mix vers coco?
 

3rd Monkey

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impressive, any tips for growing in coco?
I don't know your grow experience, so some may be redundant, but I'll share what I consider the top 5 errors I see. Hope they help.

Biggest thing would be watering. Use a fine drop watering jug to prevent compaction, which greatly reduces the need for perlite, allowing more water and nutrient solution to be held for longer, while keeping oxygen levels optimal. That goes for any medium, though coco greatly benefits from its water retention and porosity, so use it.

Make sure you buffer it beforehand. It holds K like a mother.

Repot often. Start small and repot every 2 weeks to get the fastest growth and to prevent the coco from getting stagnant.

PH is a significant player, 5.8-6.2 is preferable to me.

Treat it like hydro. Calculate nute ppms individually so you can track what goes in, what comes out, and what needs adjustment to fine tune.
 

oldbeancounter

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I don't know your grow experience, so some may be redundant, but I'll share what I consider the top 5 errors I see. Hope they help.

Biggest thing would be watering. Use a fine drop watering jug to prevent compaction, which greatly reduces the need for perlite, allowing more water and nutrient solution to be held for longer, while keeping oxygen levels optimal. That goes for any medium, though coco greatly benefits from its water retention and porosity, so use it.

Make sure you buffer it beforehand. It holds K like a mother.

Repot often. Start small and repot every 2 weeks to get the fastest growth and to prevent the coco from getting stagnant.

PH is a significant player, 5.8-6.2 is preferable to me.

Treat it like hydro. Calculate nute ppms individually so you can track what goes in, what comes out, and what needs adjustment to fine tune.
Very helpful, I will definitely use this advise.
grow experience, indoors very little, did one grow and learned alot, most of it here as others have helped as well
 

waterproof808

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My local dispensary grows in coco and their buds look very nice but usually have zero smell or flavor. Their flower is usually on the dry side which is where i think the terpene loss is coming from. If you look at the harvest/testing/packaging dates they usually have it all done within 2-3 weeks, where normally just drying in Hawaii takes about 2 weeks by itself.

I just started using coco on half my garden but havent harvested any coco plants yet. I've been growing in straight promix for the last couple years, which is technically a soilless medium, and I really dont have any issues with a lack of terps from any of my keeper cuts, but i will come across bland smelling stuff from seed. I usually get compliments on the flavor and smell of my flowers whenever I share it with people.

You can consider using chitosan oligosaccharide at around 200ppm to enhance trichomes/terpene production. Theres a big thread with good info on ICmag about it. A few bottled products contain it but I just get it off ebay. It wont register on an EC meter so you have to use a scale and some math to calculate the dosage.

Sulfur is also an important element for terpene production.
 

xtsho

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so what about terpene and smell loss with coco but soil stinks and holds the terp profiles its not genetic

I've been growing in coco for years. Plants smell and taste great. Different strains smell and taste different. I don't think anything is lost at all. I think it all comes down to the grower.
 

3rd Monkey

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My local dispensary grows in coco and their buds look very nice but usually have zero smell or flavor. Their flower is usually on the dry side which is where i think the terpene loss is coming from. If you look at the harvest/testing/packaging dates they usually have it all done within 2-3 weeks, where normally just drying in Hawaii takes about 2 weeks by itself.

I just started using coco on half my garden but havent harvested any coco plants yet. I've been growing in straight promix for the last couple years, which is technically a soilless medium, and I really dont have any issues with a lack of terps from any of my keeper cuts, but i will come across bland smelling stuff from seed. I usually get compliments on the flavor and smell of my flowers whenever I share it with people.

You can consider using chitosan oligosaccharide at around 200ppm to enhance trichomes/terpene production. Theres a big thread with good info on ICmag about it. A few bottled products contain it but I just get it off ebay. It wont register on an EC meter so you have to use a scale and some math to calculate the dosage.

Sulfur is also an important element for terpene production.
Your first paragraph is the answer. They're fucking up the cure to get it out quicker.
 
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