Energy savers/large rechargable batteries for lighting
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macdadyabc
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solar panels, make a wind turbine, make a bicycle genorator
gotot
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i meant for an eastcoast apartment. nice idea though
Under-Mi-Sensi
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Maybe one of those computer power-out backups would help a little. It's a rechargeable battery supply for computers that provides power when the electricity goes out. Just have a timer with 30 minute increments set to turn the power of for a half hour every hour so that the lights run on battery for 30 minutes then the battery recharges for 30 minutes. In theory it would reduce the power consumption to half the time. It's called a UPS> Uninterruptible Power Supply. Hopefully this helps?
gotot
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when it's recharging wouldn't the lights be off? or does it begin to use from the outlet? and now that i'm thinking about it, in order to even be efficient, the recharge would have to require less energy to recharge than the amount of output of your lights no?
Under-Mi-Sensi
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I recharges the batteries will still providing power to the built in outlet...
gotot
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makes sense, and what about the question i just edited?
Under-Mi-Sensi
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I'm no Electrical Engineer, but you're right, it would only be efficient if the battery requires less energy to recharge than the lights. It's all theoretical really... The only way to know is by experimenting... Sorry I don't have more answers. But if your curious to get a UPS then APC is a very well known name in the business.
macdadyabc
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i have one of those, but i think it uses more electricity. i think recharging it like that would use like 20% more energy atleast, versus not using it at all. Plus, there expensive as hell
TheDankness
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Unfortunately, you cannot create electrical potential from nothing, so the IPS would do you no good at all, it will in fact use more power than the lights alone. I would say your best option is to USE LESS POWER. There is no solution to create an efficient DIY source of electricity. If there were everyone would have a bicycle generator in their living room.
macdadyabc
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You can create electrical energy from potential human energy. It depends on what you call "efficient". I think if i can ride my bike( besides to school and back) in front of my tv and generate 200 watts of power, i think thats efficient. If Humans werent ignorant and selfish fools, then YES, EVERYONE would have a bicycle generator in their living room
gotot
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lol that's wild. what about getting a converter for a car battery to a 3 prong socket and buy another car batter and keep switching off? sounds like a lot of work. and would the energy be sufficient for atleast a day?
macdadyabc
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you can make one with an alternator and a car battery. its pretty simple, and with all sorts of converters and electrical components available, a wide range of voltage and wattage options are possible. im sure you could bank some batteries together and charge them, for power for a day. But with just one battery, it would still be an efficient way to save money. If you have a 2000 watt growroom, and you bike an hour a day in front of the tv, you'd save alot of moola.
TheDankness
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I said you can't create electrical energy from *nothing*, and potential human energy is *something*. I was simply saying that running an UPS would not save him any money on his bill, only make it worse. About the 200w from the bicycle theory, 200w ain't shit unfortunately. So I don't think everyone deserves to be called ignorant, sefish, and a fool for not wasting their time. What is that, enough energy to run 3 sixty watt incandescent bulbs and a phone charger? Plus, that would only be while you were riding. Sounds inefficient to me...
macdadyabc
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well i am an optimist. 200 watts for me is enough to keep my greenhouse lit with a 200 watt bulb and a diy light mover when there isnt 12 hours of light. whats efficiant to me is shit to you, i dont really care. I was trying to help someone with their question.and 200 watts was just one output. you can get as much power as a car going 60 will put out. so as much as a car inverter will put out ( ive seen them up to 7000 watts). But hey
fuck that, right? im not gunna waste my time to build something to create power and get excercise. Im just gunna sit on my ass and be a steryotypical ignorant, lazy stoner.
TheDankness
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No, you are going to sit on your ass and be a hateful, belligerent, judgmental stoner who thinks he is holier than thou. And obviously you're crazy if you think lighting a fucking greenhouse with a 200w bulb is going to do anything. Whatever, I make the same claim as you, I was just trying to help someone with their question. It gets hard when people get completely irrational. Well I'm not going to let you ruin my morning, I'm going to have a shower and a cup of coffee. I've got better things to do...
jeff f
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physics dictates that you will use more power. think of it like this, you cant put 4 gallons and 4gallons in a bucket and get 9 gallons. the most you can get is 8 gallons if your aim is perfect. but your aim will only be as accurate as the efficiency rating of the battery charger. they are only about 50-70 percent efficient so your "theory" would only end up costing you about 30-50 percent MORE. as far as a 500 buck light bill in 3 days.....just about completely impossible with your average 100-200 amp electrical panel. if you spent that, someone stole it or the elect co. ripped you off.
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jeff f
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dankness, my dad once told me not to argue with an idiot....because in short time, nobody can tell the difference. i would like to see mr tree hugger peddle enough energy to grow a single blade of grass let alone real grass. and i want to hear about all mr treehuggers wonderful energy saving ideas in the works to save the planet...even though NOT A SINGLE hihgly educated electrical engineer worldwide has been able to figure out. lets hear about your "projects"........silence? thought so
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