Ender's 4,000w Hydro 12-site (6x White Russian, 5x G13xHaze, 1x PurpleWreck) + CO2!

Hey Ender, I just tuned into your grow. Great setup man. I love how you exhaust your lights with the inline fans on both ends. I have a similiar setup, 8inch fan ---> 3 1000w light ---> 8inch fan, all from the outside air. Let me know how loud that chiller is once you have it running. I am very curious. Also, if that rumbling is a problem for noise, I really want to recommend to you Avita air pumps. Check out ebay for one, super cheap, and makes very little noise. 100-150$, and it will cover your entire room with an incredible amount of air. You can even put the pump next to an AC unit, so it pumps your water with AC air. You might not even need a chiller, especially with 72-73 degree temps already. Keep up this awesome grow. Ill be eagerly waiting for updates. I also started a new grow, and ill be updating tonight. Check it out in signature.

Friendly Caregiver

Putting the pumps next to the ac is a good idea. All you really need to do is extend your tubing to make sure it reaches. I think I am already subscribed to you ender, I am new to the forum. I am still trying to figure this thing out. Thank you for the future closeups.

If you hang up your air pump, it should be much quieter.

Friendly Caregiver - I hooked up my water chiller, and am sitting at a comfortable 66 degrees now loving it. and let me add that the chiller doesnt vibrate whatsoever. It makes no noise at all that i can hear. It has a very slight cool breeze going in the front side, and a very slight breeze of warm air coming out the back side. But it makes no noise or vibrations at all.. However keep in mind this is a 1/10 hp chiller, which is the lowest model available and it runs on only 1 pump (which sits in the reservoir and pumps through the chiller and back into the res via a second hose). The higher models (1/4hp 1/2hp etc) i think run 2 pumps, with one of the pumps inside of the chiller itself. So because of this, it would be making noise and vibration inside the chiller. This may be what youre referring to. But as for the 1/10 hp theres no noise at all, and its good to chill 30 gal up to 30 degrees, and 100 gal up to 10 degrees (roughly from what i can remember reading). So in other words, if youre running a standard 55 gal reservoir, a 1/10 hp is capable of chilling your water as much as 20 degrees! So yea, the 1/10 is plenty for a 55 gal res.

Upinthemguts - Welcome to the forums! ill be sure to post closeups as soon as they recover and start growing normally again, because they seem to be stunted right now due to over-feeding nutes in the beginning. So ive been giving them plain water the past week, and just now began giving them very low strength nutes again. So as soon as they begin growing normally again ill be sure to post pictures. Just dont wanna give you the wrong idea of what the leaf looks like, since some of them have symptoms and are twisted, etc.. Hang tight and ill post them soon buddy.

Soupsah - Good idea. ill certainly think about that one.. Fortunately i dont have to worry about the vibration too much, so ill probably just leave it on the ground next to my reservoir, keeping the hose nice and short going directly into the water. But in the future i might end up hanging it. Its a great idea for other people who are worried about making too much noise.

To the rest of you who are following my grow, i greatly appreciate everyone who has subscribed to this thread, and i will be sure to keep everyone posted on whats going on. As of right now i just got my chiller installed which ill post pics of soon, and my plants are a little stunted from over-feeding in the beginning, so i had to give them plain water for a while. But i just started giving them a low dose of nutes again, so once they start showing good growth again ill be sure to post up pictures! Stay tuned guys, i promise youre in for a treat once things get going more.

Ender87i said:

Friendly Caregiver - I hooked up my water chiller, and am sitting at a comfortable 66 degrees now loving it. and let me add that the chiller doesnt vibrate whatsoever. It makes no noise at all that i can hear. It has a very slight cool breeze going in the front side, and a very slight breeze of warm air coming out the back side. But it makes no noise or vibrations at all.. However keep in mind this is a 1/10 hp chiller, which is the lowest model available and it runs on only 1 pump (which sits in the reservoir and pumps through the chiller and back into the res via a second hose). The higher models (1/4hp 1/2hp etc) i think run 2 pumps, with one of the pumps inside of the chiller itself. So because of this, it would be making noise and vibration inside the chiller. This may be what youre referring to. But as for the 1/10 hp theres no noise at all, and its good to chill 30 gal up to 30 degrees, and 100 gal up to 10 degrees (roughly from what i can remember reading). So in other words, if youre running a standard 55 gal reservoir, a 1/10 hp is capable of chilling your water as much as 20 degrees! So yea, the 1/10 is plenty for a 55 gal res.

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I have a 1/2hp and it's gets loud sometimes and gets the room hot. I might have to give that 1/10ths a try. Thanks

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Soupsah - Good idea. ill certainly think about that one.. Fortunately i dont have to worry about the vibration too much, so ill probably just leave it on the ground next to my reservoir, keeping the hose nice and short going directly into the water. But in the future i might end up hanging it. Its a great idea for other people who are worried about making too much noise.

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Another reason to hang it up is so it doesn't flood if electricity goes out.

Well looks like money was no option when building this! nice set up you got here!

MarioMadness - Thanks for the compliment!

So I got the chiller up and running, sittin at a nice 66 right now

The next thing im doing is installing a water propeller.
Specifically, the 'Hydor Koralia Magnum 7'.
If you dont know what it is, check it out.
Basically it has one side with a magnet and a swiveling propeller that goes in your res,
and another side with just a magnet that goes on the outside of your res.
So you mount it anywhere you want on the inside of your res, and it propels water
in whichever direction you point it. I plan on putting it about 3/4 down my res, and
aiming it at the middle of the bottom of the res. It will basically circulate the res water
around and around in a circular motion, and keep nutrient salts and whatnot from settling
on the bottom of the res. This means NO MORE SLUDGE, and NO MORE FLOATIES!
I just now found out about this product from a local growshop owner, he says its amazing.
I ordered it online and am waiting for it to arrive. ill update once its installed.

PS. Plants are doing better. In fact they're doing great. i'll post pics shortly.

Wow. I agree money is no option here. I am using box store t5 fluorescents hung from chains in one room and (lol) modified street lights in the other. 4-250 watt hps lights aimed on four corners into 1 very privileged bag seed plant right now. I figure if things go well I can always move the street lights out to the yard and purchase more suitable equipment. I really envy your setup, it took some time money and planning for sure. I love the idea of the prop in the water. Even when I was changing my res every 10 days I had buildup, not so bad since I dropped advanced nutes though.

Thanks for all the compliments guys!
You're right, i was lucky enough to have some money available to me for this setup, and i wanted to do it right.
Every aspect of the grow i could possibly improve, ive done my best to do so. Nothing but the best for my girls
Unfortunately im having some difficulties with a few of my babies that didnt take off, so im replacing them.
Im not sure what the issue is, or why they're acting so finicky, but the rest of them are doing great.

Upinthemguts - Wow, 4x250w lights aimed on four corners of 1 plant, i love it! Very privileged plant indeed.
You'll have to let me know how it does. Do you have a journal? If not, you should start one! Its great feedback.
But yea, im stoked for the prop to arrive, i think its the final piece to my garden's puzzle. ill let u know how it works out.

Later tonight or tomorrow ill take some pictures of the plants and everything else thats new and post an update.

I started growing in January of this year so my knowledge isn't where I want it yet. I started with some very potent bag seeds of unknown strain. I made a recirculating drip system and transferred to bubble buckets for the first 3 flowered plants this is my fourth and I am using coco. It's been 19 days in flower and they are larger than bic lighters and smell like lime/watermellon. I super cropped and partially main lined ( I think that's what its called) just to try and force the main colas up, trimming pop corn buds for three hours isn't my idea of fun. I am having trouble figuring the site out or I would do more with it, lord knows I need the criticism... I did start an album and journal for the berry bomb and other strains I mixed up though.

Okay so if this worked right you should see an image of the two seedlings in question. They are definitely not berry bomb though, the berry bombs are stretching like crazy.

What exactly is your question about your seedlings?
They look fairly healthy to me, if anything they could use some nutrients (maybe some nitrogen).
For being a novice grower, it sounds like youre doing well for yourself.
If you have any questions at all, id be more than happy to help you out!
Just send me a message and ill answer any questions you have!

Yeah they look like they need some nitrogen, I was just linking for identification purposes, I'm chomping at the bit to label these two seedlings correctly, haha. I'm nervous about over feeding again with the slight burn they got at first so I have been feeding diluted seaweed extract.

Well the first question i'd ask is, does the medium youre using contain any nutrients?
In other words, is it inert? most soils contain nutrients, etc. and are fine with plain water for a while.
If the medium doesnt already contain nutrition, then you should be feeding it a solution of nutrients.
Any brand will do fine, but they need nutrients. Dont worry about the seaweed extract so much, because
without the proper base nutrients, its not going to be much help. Also, if you dont already have one, i would
invest in a meter that reads ph as well as ppm.. You'll want to feed your young plants lower ppm, in
the 400-700 range maximum! Its always best to start low and slowly increase the ppm. I would start at 400.

So to summarize - if you dont already have these things, go buy a meter that reads ph and ppm, go buy some
base nutrients, mix a solution and aim for 400 ppm to start your young plants at and move up slowly.

I guess I should have phrased it differently. I am not claiming to be a pro grower or anything, but I wasn't posting the pictures due to the yellowing and or spots. I am trying to identify these two seedlings as either blue hash, g 13 haze or pineapple express. I know it's probably impossible at this point, I will probably need to wait until they develop fully grown leaves and or bud structure. But here's to hoping right.

Ah i see..
Well from the way they look, i think you can rule out g13xhaze because mine look way different.
The g13xhaze leafs have pedals that dont overlap, they are all individually spaced.
Also a bit wider and jagged looking. You probably cant picture what im describing but ill post pics shortly.
Anyhow, i dont think they're g13xhaze.

This had to be one of the most impressive set-up Ive ever seen :O

Well that is bad news, haha. I guess I shouldn't have been so cheap and ordered more than a single g13, guess that leaves blue hash and pineapple.express, it's narrowing down the list I suppose. How are yours looking btw?

ill post some pics later tonight.. ill go grab the camera now.

UPDATE! : Here are pictures of my new chiller, as you can see on the Guardian monitor (the middle reading) my water temp is at 66! I drilled 2 new holes in the lid of my reservoir to accomodate the chiller hoses (the 2 holes on the left are the new ones) which i simply drilled out to the correct size and then used a grommet and fitting for each hole to attach the hoses to. Works perfect! Ive also included some updated pictures of my plants.. I had to replace a couple of them, so i took a picture of the newest sprout too. I ended up replacing 2 of the white russians, with pure White Widow, and Pineapple Express.. So now ive got all kinds of strains growing, ill post the list later once i know whats gonna be final. But for now, enjoy the pictures!







Oh and by the way, as you can tell from the picture of the freshly transplanted sprout, i removed as much of the perlite as i could from all the buckets. I think it may be hindering the oxygen they get during the drain cycle (which normally pulls oxygen down into the rootzone) - in other words the perlite is so fine and un-pourous, not much oxygen gets through. So i think that may be causing part of my problems. I also went out and bought some Roots Excelurator and Great White.. So far the Roots Excel has been amazing! When i removed the perlite, the roots i saw were all nice and white! But anyway, theres my update. I'll post another one as soon as things start to change. Right now things seem a little slow for some reason, but im getting it all dialed in. Hang tight, more to come!