Emery drama

Gquebed

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No one else? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Jack Herer? Raphael Machoulem? Dennis Peron? Keith Stroup? ALL doing it before Emery. Please educate yourself before making hilarious false claims. Kind of like your Davey Crockett example, again, different era in history. Using that false logic the slave trade in Libya should be acceptable right? I mean other people in the past have owned them so........
These guys had storefronts and/or cannabis lounges in major cities? Where? They got in front of tv cameras and did print interviews in major newspapers?
Emery may have been a self serving publicity hound, but... i dont recall anybody else doing this on a regular basis. Thats the pioneering part... sticking your neck out in spite of the risk.
 
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Gquebed

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Difference being the pioneers you speak of lived in an entirely different era which held different laws and morals which are no longer accepted or held by todays modern standards. Apples and Oranges comparison.

This is why all the SJWs wanting to tear down statues is a hilarious reflection of the indoctrination, not education of todays youth.
Era doesnt matter. A pioneer is a person who is among the first to explore unknown territories in spite of whatever risk is inherent in the given situation.
Crockett explored unknown lands in spite of the danger of being killed by natives. Pioneer. He wasnt the first to do this but he was among the first.
Emery explored business opportunities for weed related things regardless of the risk of going to prison. He may not have been the only but he was among them... and the first i know of that did it in a highly publicized way. Pioneer.
You may not like him or his motives. Neither do i. But there is no question that he was a pioneer in this business and that his efforts were key to legalization. We would be years behind if it wasnt for him.
 

torontoke

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These guys had storefronts and/or cannabis lounges in major cities? Where? They got in front of tv cameras and did print interviews in major newspapers?
Emery may have been a self serving publicity hound, but... i dont recall anybody else doing this on a regular basis. Thats the pioneering part... sticking your neck out in spite of the risk.
He was sticking his neck out to turn $800 mmar lbs into $6000 lb storefront rec sales all in the name of patients. What a class act.
He was also warned and fined hundreds of times yet profits were to great to pass up.
He did what 5 yrs in prison for the seed sales to the u.s but is somehow still a millionaire.
But I guess to some he is right up there with mother Theresa
 

Gquebed

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He was sticking his neck out to turn $800 mmar lbs into $6000 lb storefront rec sales all in the name of patients. What a class act.
He was also warned and fined hundreds of times yet profits were to great to pass up.
He did what 5 yrs in prison for the seed sales to the u.s but is somehow still a millionaire.
But I guess to some he is right up there with mother Theresa
Again. Whether or not he was a nice guy is irrelevant to him being a pioneer. I dont like him either. But the fact is he is a pioneer. Thats all im saying.

So hate him all you want. I do....

And how exactly is turning 800 mmar lbs into 6000 any different from and of the other dispensary guys who followed him... or any of the other BM guys? Not one single bit of difference. Same fn shyster shit...
 

Pa-Nature

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Crazy to me how his contributions to the plant keep being overrided by claims such as these be it fact or fiction. Back in the day I flew out to by seeds in person as there was no one else with balls to do what he did... Like it or hate it. The guy was the first at alot of what we take for granted. Cannabis Canada magazine was cool back in the late 90s... i know for a fact the first smoking vape room was there in the late 90s down near east hastings cause i bought 2. By that time I knew a dozen people who were enabled by the cannabis canada catalogue. I still have lots of those seeds and hand labelled vials. He had some cool beans back in the day. Before that it was much more of a challenge to order seeds. White widow, Romulan, Canadian Ruderalis, Burmese Indica, Hindu Kush, Afghani, Mighty Mite, Donkey Dick.... i could go on but enough said. Imo If your dick hasn't made you do a few stupid things then you probably haven't truly lived...
Donkey was my very first grow plant ....Crossed it with chocolate hash plant for chocolate dick ....Panty remover weed i called it :0
 

torontoke

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I have offered to take his wife off his hands if need be. See I contribute.
Could you even imagine how irritating the after bang chat would be
Again. Whether or not he was a nice guy is irrelevant to him being a pioneer. I dont like him either. But the fact is he is a pioneer. Thats all im saying.

So hate him all you want. I do....

And how exactly is turning 800 mmar lbs into 6000 any different from and of the other dispensary guys who followed him... or any of the other BM guys? Not one single bit of difference. Same fn shyster shit...
actually there’s a big difference.
None of those other dispensary owners were selling to everyone as rec and going on tv ranting and raving about patients rights. The majority of the illegal dispensaries only sold to med patients and that was their argument in court when they got raided. Emery couldn’t use that as a defence since he was only worried about $18 a gram not who was buying it.
And it’s not about liking the guy or not but he made patients look bad.
 

Gquebed

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Could you even imagine how irritating the after bang chat would be

actually there’s a big difference.
None of those other dispensary owners were selling to everyone as rec and going on tv ranting and raving about patients rights. The majority of the illegal dispensaries only sold to med patients and that was their argument in court when they got raided. Emery couldn’t use that as a defence since he was only worried about $18 a gram not who was buying it.
And it’s not about liking the guy or not but he made patients look bad.
I was in plenty of dispensaries on the west coast that supposedly only sold to med patients. But i didnt have trouble buying without a script. Same with the vending machines.

Like i said... dislike the guy, but calling him out for selling weed for what ever reason for whatever price shouldnt be a reason. In that regard, he didnt do anything different...

Hell... almost all the weed that has been coming from BC to the AB black market was grown by mmar guys and whether its sold in an alley or a dispensary makes no diff.
 

CalyxCrusher

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These guys had storefronts and/or cannabis lounges in major cities? Where? They got in front of tv cameras and did print interviews in major newspapers?
Emery may have been a self serving publicity hound, but... i dont recall anybody else doing this on a regular basis. Thats the pioneering part... sticking your neck out in spite of the risk.
LOL showing your ignorance in spades are ya? One discovered THC in 1968 and has conducted most of the major research on cannabis since then. Another was a major proponent to there even being medical cannabis in the US. The other is a founder of NORML and if you don't know about JH and his activism you need to read, which judging by your response you need to do anyway.

Without any of their contributions there would be nothing for the porno mag peddling shop owner from Ontario to have to use as a starting platform for cannabis reform as there wouldn't be any. Getting arrested for ripping people off with over priced bunk seeds doesn't excuse the fact he has a history of hitting on underage girls. His wife being under age when they met. Oh and theyve all been on TV "for the cause" NUMEROUS times over DECADES. What the fuck has Emery done exactly since being released?.......
 

CalyxCrusher

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Again. Whether or not he was a nice guy is irrelevant to him being a pioneer. I dont like him either. But the fact is he is a pioneer. Thats all im saying.

So hate him all you want. I do....

And how exactly is turning 800 mmar lbs into 6000 any different from and of the other dispensary guys who followed him... or any of the other BM guys? Not one single bit of difference. Same fn shyster shit...
Can't be a pioneer if many others came before you. Lol
 

Gquebed

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LOL showing your ignorance in spades are ya? One discovered THC in 1968 and has conducted most of the major research on cannabis since then. Another was a major proponent to there even being medical cannabis in the US. The other is a founder of NORML and if you don't know about JH and his activism you need to read, which judging by your response you need to do anyway.

Without any of their contributions there would be nothing for the porno mag peddling shop owner from Ontario to have to use as a starting platform for cannabis reform as there wouldn't be any. Getting arrested for ripping people off with over priced bunk seeds doesn't excuse the fact he has a history of hitting on underage girls. His wife being under age when they met. Oh and theyve all been on TV "for the cause" NUMEROUS times over DECADES. What the fuck has Emery done exactly since being released?.......
"Discovered" THC in 1968. Lol
Like the trichomes and their effect on the plant werent discovered a few thousand years prior.

Anyway, that not the point. How many of the few guys you mentioned opened up seed shops or lounges in spite of the law None? Phhh... and that is the point, son. Emery was a pioneer in that respect. He did more for legalization and commercialization than any of the others. But ill concede your point. Nevertheless, Emery was a pioneer. That is a fact. He was among the first to champion the cause regardless of his motives and no matter how much you hate him you cant change that fact.
 

Farmer.J

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Era doesnt matter. A pioneer is a person who is among the first to explore unknown territories in spite of whatever risk is inherent in the given situation.
Crockett explored unknown lands in spite of the danger of being killed by natives. Pioneer. He wasnt the first to do this but he was among the first.
Emery explored business opportunities for weed related things regardless of the risk of going to prison. He may not have been the only but he was among them... and the first i know of that did it in a highly publicized way. Pioneer.
You may not like him or his motives. Neither do i. But there is no question that he was a pioneer in this business and that his efforts were key to legalization. We would be years behind if it wasnt for him.
Emery also was the first to have stores open on sundays. He was also selling three live crew albums that were banned in canada. I think he took a lot of risks to be rich and most of the "Legalization" efforts he had were just self promotion advertising. Probably the last guy that actually wanted legalization.
 

Gquebed

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Emery also was the first to have stores open on sundays. He was also selling three live crew albums that were banned in canada. I think he took a lot of risks to be rich and most of the "Legalization" efforts he had were just self promotion advertising. Probably the last guy that actually wanted legalization.
Youre prolly right. Lol
Now that its legal he has no platform for self promotion...
 

Farmer.J

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Youre prolly right. Lol
Now that its legal he has no platform for self promotion...
I messaged him a few years ago on Facebook, because one of his posts was trying to justify the prices of cannabis in Canada and how much the government could tax grab from it. I told him that what he was trying to justify was exactly the opposite of what he said on " the union: the business behind getting high". On that movie he was saying that legalization should bring the prices down to a level comparable to barley, wheat and corn. He said that cannabis was way over valued as at that time an ounce of weed was almost the same price as gold. His response to me, several months later, was typical mark Emery style babble that made me loose all respect for the guy. This was before his appearance on " super high me" Doug Benson movie, which also further confirmed to me that he is a delusional idiot.
 
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OldMedUser

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He was sticking his neck out to turn $800 mmar lbs into $6000 lb storefront rec sales all in the name of patients. What a class act.
He was also warned and fined hundreds of times yet profits were to great to pass up.
He did what 5 yrs in prison for the seed sales to the u.s but is somehow still a millionaire.
But I guess to some he is right up there with mother Theresa
He is not and never has been a millionaire. Rented an apartment, leased a car and had to turn to his supporters to pay his and Jodie's fines from the last court case. Filed his taxes every year and listed his occupation as Marijuana Seed Vendor. Our Canadian gov't was happy to take his tax payments off those sales but threw him under the bus when the US came after him for those same sales that were perfectly legal here. His 5 years in US federal prisons was part of a plea agreement so the other two people named in the indictment would be set free.

POLITICAL PRISONER

The US Drug Enforcement Administration admitted on the day of Marc Emery’s arrest that his investigation and extradition were politically motivated, designed to target the marijuana legalization efforts and organizations that Emery spearheaded and financed for over a decade.Here is the original text of DEA Administrator Karen Tandy’s statement released on July 29th, 2005 (also available in its original letterhead form by clicking here):“Today’s DEA arrest of Marc Scott Emery, publisher of Cannabis Culture Magazine, and the founder of a marijuana legalization group — is a significant blow not only to the marijuana trafficking trade in the U.S. and Canada, but also to the marijuana legalization movement.

His marijuana trade and propagandist marijuana magazine have generated nearly $5 million a year in profits that bolstered his trafficking efforts, but those have gone up in smoke today.


Emery and his organization had been designated as one of the Attorney General’s most wanted international drug trafficking organizational targets — one of only 46 in the world and the only one from Canada.


Hundreds of thousands of dollars of Emery’s illicit profits are known to have been channeled to marijuana legalization groups active in the United States and Canada. Drug legalization lobbyists now have one less pot of money to rely on.”


On May 10th, 2010, Marc was ordered extradited by Justice Minister Rob Nicholson. He was taken to the USA on May 20th, 2010 and has been serving his sentence in a private for-profit prison in Georgia from late 2010 to April 2011. He was moved to Yazoo City medium security federal prison in Mississippi in April 2011 and has been detained there since.

Marc Emery gave away all of the profits from his seed business – millions of dollars – to drug law reform lobbyists, political parties, global protests and rallies, court litigation, medical marijuana initiatives, drug rehabilitation clinics, and other legitimate legal activities and organizations in Canada, the United States, and countries worldwide.

Marc Emery has been known as a book seller and activist in Canada for 30 years, fighting against censorship laws and other social issues long before he became a drug law reform activist.


Love him or hate him he devoted a lot of time and money in his efforts to fight oppressive laws in Canada and definitely accelerated Canada's move toward legalization tho what we have wasn't what he was aiming for. Things will change eventually until the plant is finally freed thanks to the efforts of Marc and people like him.

If these accusations prove to be true then that's deplorable but still doesn't negate what good he has done nor does the good justify the bad.

I'd much rather see Marc profit from cannabis than the political hypocrites that are are raking in the dough now thanks to Harper setting things up then Trudeau supporting the corporate takeover.

Prohibition 2.0 is not legalization.
 

torontoke

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He is not and never has been a millionaire. Rented an apartment, leased a car and had to turn to his supporters to pay his and Jodie's fines from the last court case. Filed his taxes every year and listed his occupation as Marijuana Seed Vendor. Our Canadian gov't was happy to take his tax payments off those sales but threw him under the bus when the US came after him for those same sales that were perfectly legal here. His 5 years in US federal prisons was part of a plea agreement so the other two people named in the indictment would be set free.

POLITICAL PRISONER

The US Drug Enforcement Administration admitted on the day of Marc Emery’s arrest that his investigation and extradition were politically motivated, designed to target the marijuana legalization efforts and organizations that Emery spearheaded and financed for over a decade.Here is the original text of DEA Administrator Karen Tandy’s statement released on July 29th, 2005 (also available in its original letterhead form by clicking here):“Today’s DEA arrest of Marc Scott Emery, publisher of Cannabis Culture Magazine, and the founder of a marijuana legalization group — is a significant blow not only to the marijuana trafficking trade in the U.S. and Canada, but also to the marijuana legalization movement.

His marijuana trade and propagandist marijuana magazine have generated nearly $5 million a year in profits that bolstered his trafficking efforts, but those have gone up in smoke today.


Emery and his organization had been designated as one of the Attorney General’s most wanted international drug trafficking organizational targets — one of only 46 in the world and the only one from Canada.


Hundreds of thousands of dollars of Emery’s illicit profits are known to have been channeled to marijuana legalization groups active in the United States and Canada. Drug legalization lobbyists now have one less pot of money to rely on.”


On May 10th, 2010, Marc was ordered extradited by Justice Minister Rob Nicholson. He was taken to the USA on May 20th, 2010 and has been serving his sentence in a private for-profit prison in Georgia from late 2010 to April 2011. He was moved to Yazoo City medium security federal prison in Mississippi in April 2011 and has been detained there since.

Marc Emery gave away all of the profits from his seed business – millions of dollars – to drug law reform lobbyists, political parties, global protests and rallies, court litigation, medical marijuana initiatives, drug rehabilitation clinics, and other legitimate legal activities and organizations in Canada, the United States, and countries worldwide.

Marc Emery has been known as a book seller and activist in Canada for 30 years, fighting against censorship laws and other social issues long before he became a drug law reform activist.


Love him or hate him he devoted a lot of time and money in his efforts to fight oppressive laws in Canada and definitely accelerated Canada's move toward legalization tho what we have wasn't what he was aiming for. Things will change eventually until the plant is finally freed thanks to the efforts of Marc and people like him.

If these accusations prove to be true then that's deplorable but still doesn't negate what good he has done nor does the good justify the bad.

I'd much rather see Marc profit from cannabis than the political hypocrites that are are raking in the dough now thanks to Harper setting things up then Trudeau supporting the corporate takeover.

Prohibition 2.0 is not legalization.
Well I certainly don’t know about his taxes and have no idea how much he has squirrelled away to impress young women but I do know someone that worked in one of his shops and talked to him regularly.
I’m sure if you ran a seed business and 20 illegal dispensary’s that ur taxes wouldn’t be exactly honest or up date numbers.
But maybe your right Jodie is with him for his witty banter and rugged criminal looks
From now on I’ll refer to him as Siaint Marc
 

OldMedUser

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I've basically been working for him the last few years as Admin at the CC forums which shut down without notice to me or anyone.

Wasn't working for him in particular but for the members. A couple of new growers there must be flipping out as we were helping them get their grows in order and now they are on their own.

Now I'm wondering if my boxes of CC magazines are going to be worth a fortune or should be burnt in protest. Bought two of the last issue, #74, and stored one away in a plastic wrapper unread for posterity.

I'm not saying the guy didn't do what he is accused of but at this point it's just accusation and no one deserves to be tried in the court of public opinion.

He should listen to a lawyer tho and keep his yap shut for now.
 

Jefferson1977

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Emery also was the first to have stores open on sundays. He was also selling three live crew albums that were banned in canada. I think he took a lot of risks to be rich and most of the "Legalization" efforts he had were just self promotion advertising. Probably the last guy that actually wanted legalization.
My buddy was in court in London during Mark's case for indecency (I believe that was the charge, correct me if I am wrong) when the crown was reading out the lyrics in front of the court:

You said it yourself, you like it like I do
Put your lips on my dick, and suck my asshole too
I'm a freak in heat, a dog without warnin'
My appetite is sex, 'cause me so horny

Me so horny, me so horny, me so horny
[..]
Fuckie suckie, fuckie suckie, me fuckie suckie
Fuckie suckie, fuckie suckie, me fuckie suckie
Fuckie suckie, suckie, me fuckie suckie
Fuckie suckie, suckie, me fuckie suckie
Fuckie suckie, fuckie suckie
lol. Those were the days you showed up to court for the entertainment value.
 

Egzoset

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Hummm...

For all i can tell Marc Emery got instrumentalized once by Stephen Harper and then twice by Justin Trudeau. It seems to me Dana Larsen and other "activists" like him are next on a short list, so it's just a matter of timing - with the federal Canuck elections coming this year.

Obviously the sexual aspects wouldn't be so important if Emery had been a nobody, while it turns out the enemies of my enemies make natural allies, usually. At least i found more convenient to have CCF around than not...

Now, what's the "Plan-B"??

:peace:
 
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