Elev8 Seedbank Runtz sucks

I’m here to warn everyone to stay away from elev8. I grew out their runts and their strain it literally pitiful. I have bag seeds that do better than their strains. It seems like they are either misleading or their cuts are unstable. I should’ve known it was an issue when their Runtz line is Feminized. The rest of my plants in the same conditions are doing well. I’m gonna grow out some seeds i Got from the runtz brand and compare.

Funnily enough there was an article online recently about the authenticity of their other products and how to tell

didnt they guy who runs Elev8 make a thread here pretending to be a satisfied customer or was that another fraud?

Zipz55 said:

didnt they guy who runs Elev8 make a thread here pretending to be a satisfied customer or was that another fraud?

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If I recall correctly there have been threads on here that were not positive regarding Elev8. I think the posters were suggesting fakes but I cant recall.

Wouldn't surprise me if what you say is true.

Never grew their runtz, but their strawberry snowcone strain was shit.
I would never grow any of their seeds again.

Ganjihad said:

Never grew their runtz, but their strawberry snowcone strain was shit.
I would never grow any of their seeds again.

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It just bothers me that I’m literally wasting a whole grow on their seeds. I wanna scrap the entire project and start over.

Yea I have heard so much bad shit about them that I wont waste my $ on them...

coppershot said:

If I recall correctly there have been threads on here that were not positive regarding Elev8. I think the posters were suggesting fakes but I cant recall.

Wouldn't surprise me if what you say is true.

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Here’s a current Runtz. Decent size plant, bud structure and pheno is absolute shit. And the amount of veg time to get a decent plant needed it a lot. And their strains have a shitty immune system.

all the seeds made a similar type plant so it’s just shit phenos they are selling. And their customer service is piss poor. A package was lost that was sent to me. It said delivered but I never received it. I contacted their customer care and they outright accused me of being a theif and trying to rip them off. Literally their words. I will never deal with them again.

Aren’t runtz seeds supposed to be feminized seeing as it’s a clone only strain ?

AaronHernadez said:

Aren’t runtz seeds supposed to be feminized seeing as it’s a clone only strain ?

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Yea In theory that’s true. It depends if it’s supposed to be true runtz or a cross tho. if anyone wants actual real runtz the only choice you have is the clone only and if they are claiming to have runtz seeds it should be an s1 and so will be feminized but still likely won’t represent the real runtz clone but I guess you could get lucky.

The only way to get regular seeds would be to make a hybrid/runtz crosses. Unless someone wants to spend a long time attempting to lock in the runtz traits into seed doing some real breeding work with males but not many people are even doing that level of breeding let alone wanting to do it to make stable/uniform and reliable runtz seeds

grimweeder said:

Yea In theory that’s true. It depends if it’s supposed to be true runtz or a cross tho. if anyone wants actual real runtz the only choice you have is the clone only and if they are claiming to have runtz seeds it should be an s1 and so will be feminized but still likely won’t represent the real runtz clone but I guess you could get lucky.

The only way to get regular seeds would be to make a hybrid/runtz crosses. Unless someone wants to spend a long time attempting to lock in the runtz traits into seed doing some real breeding work with males but not many people are even doing that level of breeding let alone wanting to do it to make stable/uniform and reliable runtz seeds

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Yeah I’m no expert but I read somewhere with S1’s you got around 50/50 chance of getting something that’s a good representation of the parent or could be even better but the other half won’t share as many characteristics. I think that was from Nspecta of CSI.

AaronHernadez said:

Aren’t runtz seeds supposed to be feminized seeing as it’s a clone only strain ?

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The actual Runtz company sells seeds and they’re supposed to be from the actual creator with cookies.

Only way to get real good seeds close to original of a clone only cut is RIL. S1s def may or may not rep their parents some, much or not at all

AaronHernadez said:

Yeah I’m no expert but I read somewhere with S1’s you got around 50/50 chance of getting something that’s a good representation of the parent or could be even better but the other half won’t share as many characteristics. I think that was from Nspecta of CSI.

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grimweeder said:

Yea In theory that’s true. It depends if it’s supposed to be true runtz or a cross tho. if anyone wants actual real runtz the only choice you have is the clone only and if they are claiming to have runtz seeds it should be an s1 and so will be feminized but still likely won’t represent the real runtz clone but I guess you could get lucky.

The only way to get regular seeds would be to make a hybrid/runtz crosses. Unless someone wants to spend a long time attempting to lock in the runtz traits into seed doing some real breeding work with males but not many people are even doing that level of breeding let alone wanting to do it to make stable/uniform and reliable runtz seeds

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that’s only in theory if they were to fem a clone. But in all reality we all don’t know what the originator has. They could have had thousands of seeds from their stable run of runts and go from there pheno hunting again.

Armyofsprout said:

The actual Runtz company sells seeds and they’re supposed to be from the actual creator with cookies.

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Isnt the runtz company just a life style brand that started after the fact and occasionally taxes people with $500 seed packs to match their $100 sweat pants and $50 t-shirts?

grimweeder said:

Yea In theory that’s true. It depends if it’s supposed to be true runtz or a cross tho. if anyone wants actual real runtz the only choice you have is the clone only and if they are claiming to have runtz seeds it should be an s1 and so will be feminized but still likely won’t represent the real runtz clone but I guess you could get lucky.

The only way to get regular seeds would be to make a hybrid/runtz crosses. Unless someone wants to spend a long time attempting to lock in the runtz traits into seed doing some real breeding work with males but not many people are even doing that level of breeding let alone wanting to do it to make stable/uniform and reliable runtz seeds

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Armyofsprout said:

that’s only in theory if they were to fem a clone. But in all reality we all don’t know what the originator has. They could have had thousands of seeds from their stable run of runts and go from there pheno hunting again.

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Lots of information on different breeders and runtz plants people have (White, Pink)

Armyofsprout said:

I’m here to warn everyone to stay away from elev8. I grew out their runts and their strain it literally pitiful. I have bag seeds that do better than their strains. It seems like they are either misleading or their cuts are unstable. I should’ve known it was an issue when their Runtz line is Feminized. The rest of my plants in the same conditions are doing well. I’m gonna grow out some seeds i Got from the runtz brand and compare.

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I can't say for sure, but after having fallen victim to another mother fucker, for over a grand..based on the reputable seedbanks carrying them, and who ever runs marketing deserves the goldmine they made. Reminds me of mass medical, but we're on elev8. By the way it is worded, and feminized,I interpret that as we're using elite, real deal shit, and making seeds from others work, their work and want to make it so you can't make seeds..ok fine..if this is true. Now in a canna cribs type show I saw the child that is behind this newish company. He was about 28..so b4 I saw him,I would assume folks are closer to my age..as I just read finally they found a male to cross w their runtz after an exhausting 9 yr search. So this 28 yr old,somehow learned to cultivate at like 3yrs old, and kept all his genetics safe and sound since..and we all get to enjoy some of the finest cultivars out there. As I read, and see so much negative shit about elev8,now I wi sell them..as I believe it's shit, and not even remotely possible a kid has more shit than Arjan. I will grow one runtz..if it sucks,I'll make it a mission to blow up your reputation, unless you accept unbreached packs..90 bucks for 6 fems...of course their good, of course you would..or I hope you made a careful portfolio,I suspect you're days as a scumbag fake breeder. You, kind led, advance nutes, general hydroponics, and every schmuck selling overpriced, inferior, but well marketed bullshit...fuck you...karma is a bitch.

I almost bought those same ones but ran into some bad reviews on their runtz seeds I thought on here just search it.

Well fml. I just popped one of these. I’ll see what happens

I popped 6 slow and sweet fems from elev8 (runtz x sundae driver) all but one has pollen sacks. 1 had many of them, 4 had only a few each at the bottom of the canopy, and 1 hasnt had any that I have seen at least. Worst $100 ive spent in a while. I only killed off the one that had a bunch of sacks and the others I let go. They are 6 weeks in and look good. They structure looks good and they look like they might be some nice smoke as long as there arent a bunch of seeds. I have not seen any. Does anyone know if it is possible for fems to make some pollen sacks but it not be viable pollen? The first of the sacks were noticed 4 weeks ago.