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aggreenvln

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I hope so.. theirs little signs of sex starting to form.. its supposed to be a feminized seed but the little bumps are starting to look like balls.. if thats the case i know i have to cut it down but should i contact where i got them from to see if they can work something out?
Hey electro, here's a link to and some quotes from an article I read recently on feminized seeds that appeared on cannabisculture.com. The article itself takes a bit of an anti-feminized-seeds stance, but it includes an interesting explanation of the trial-and-error history of production of some of the first feminized seeds. Here is a collection of quotes from the article that I feel sum up the gist of it quite nicely:

"During the 1970s and &#8216;80s it was often the case that the seeds you grew came from a bag of good bud. ... found that after all that trouble of removing males, we sometimes ended up with females that switched sexes when they were stressed, resulting in accidental cross breeding &#8211; female plants were pollinated by females that developed male sex organs (hermaphrodites). We decided to grow out those seeds and, to our joy, we discovered that the ratio of females to males was skewed to a greater number of females. This was our discovery of hermaphroditic breeding. ... We took two clones from one female plant, stressed one of the clones until it developed male sex organs, and then bred it with the other female clone. To our delight it worked &#8211; we ended up with seeds that grew into females 85-90 percent of the time and were consistent with the original female plant&#8217;s characteristics. We could now plant around 30 to 40 seeds and end up with 30 female plants the same size with the same genetics. ... However, silver linings often have a cloud attached and it was true in this case. The female plants that developed from hermaphroditic seeds had the drawback of being far more likely than ordinary plants to develop male branches &#8211; turn &#8220;Herman&#8221; &#8211; when stressed. More than once, a power, pump or light failure caused enough stress to the plants that they easily went hermaphroditic." (G, "The Truth About Feminized Seeds". Cannabis Culture Magazine. August 31, 2010 < http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/394 >.)

So anyway, you can see that it is inherent in the "technology" that in a best-case scenario only 85-90% of the seeds will be female. Coupled with additional stresses, a significantly higher portion can become hermaphroditic. Are you sure the plant isn't going hermie? In either case, I'm sure the seed bank you got the seeds from is aware of this, and there may or may not make available some type of disclaimer stating as much. It couldn't hurt to try and work something out with them, but I'm not sure if you should really expect a productive result.

You should post a couple pictures of the suspicious nodes!
 

electropyro

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Hey electro, here's a link to and some quotes from an article I read recently on feminized seeds that appeared on cannabisculture.com. The article itself takes a bit of an anti-feminized-seeds stance, but it includes an interesting explanation of the trial-and-error history of production of some of the first feminized seeds. Here is a collection of quotes from the article that I feel sum up the gist of it quite nicely:

"During the 1970s and &#8216;80s it was often the case that the seeds you grew came from a bag of good bud. ... found that after all that trouble of removing males, we sometimes ended up with females that switched sexes when they were stressed, resulting in accidental cross breeding &#8211; female plants were pollinated by females that developed male sex organs (hermaphrodites). We decided to grow out those seeds and, to our joy, we discovered that the ratio of females to males was skewed to a greater number of females. This was our discovery of hermaphroditic breeding. ... We took two clones from one female plant, stressed one of the clones until it developed male sex organs, and then bred it with the other female clone. To our delight it worked &#8211; we ended up with seeds that grew into females 85-90 percent of the time and were consistent with the original female plant&#8217;s characteristics. We could now plant around 30 to 40 seeds and end up with 30 female plants the same size with the same genetics. ... However, silver linings often have a cloud attached and it was true in this case. The female plants that developed from hermaphroditic seeds had the drawback of being far more likely than ordinary plants to develop male branches &#8211; turn &#8220;Herman&#8221; &#8211; when stressed. More than once, a power, pump or light failure caused enough stress to the plants that they easily went hermaphroditic." (G, "The Truth About Feminized Seeds". Cannabis Culture Magazine. August 31, 2010 < http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/394 >.)

So anyway, you can see that it is inherent in the "technology" that in a best-case scenario only 85-90% of the seeds will be female. Coupled with additional stresses, a significantly higher portion can become hermaphroditic. Are you sure the plant isn't going hermie? In either case, I'm sure the seed bank you got the seeds from is aware of this, and there may or may not make available some type of disclaimer stating as much. It couldn't hurt to try and work something out with them, but I'm not sure if you should really expect a productive result.

You should post a couple pictures of the suspicious nodes!
Awesome read. i had know clue about that type of info. thanks i appreciate it alot. and i will post some pics later on today.
 

electropyro

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Sorry guess i couldnt get good clean pictures so i posted a bunch of them.. can anyone tell do what the sex may be.
 

electropyro

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They look like balls but then theirs little pointy things popping out. am soo confused. +rep for anyone that can help me out
 

Magnificient

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can anyone take a look at pic number 3 and let me know whats wrong with it? it looks like some type of burn but am not sure. I planted the seed on the 17th of july and ever since i have been using dyna-gro nute with a drop of dyna-bloom too every morning.
Most likely that was soil contact, but even with that you have one of the healthiest looking plants I've seen.

You could put a couple small bulbs in those empty light sockets, not to burn, but just for safety.

I'm going to give you rep for that plant. Good job there.
 

PigBenis420

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Good grow so far, looks like a lady to me. that one little bulb sticking out with the 2 hairs is a very good sign. look for more, the more you see the better. And when ur ready for 12 - 12 you should start seeing buds within a week or 2
 

blatMachine

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On a side note, I was looking at pics 17 & 18 on post 34. Have you got power bars, plugged into power bars? Just a word of caution, if you have daisy chained power bars in series with a timing contact it is a good idea to check them often for hot spots where you have connected things together. As a electrical engineering technology student I can tell you that even the current being drawn from the CFL's is enough to create a hot spot significant enough to melt plastic and start a fire. It can all be caused by a single faulty terminal in a socket, so if you feel a hot spot replace the power bar or maybe learn some basic wiring skills to create a safer rig. I'm not trying to rag on you, I just want to make sure that the grow is safe and makes it to the end ;)

Cheers
 

electropyro

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On a side note, I was looking at pics 17 & 18 on post 34. Have you got power bars, plugged into power bars? Just a word of caution, if you have daisy chained power bars in series with a timing contact it is a good idea to check them often for hot spots where you have connected things together. As a electrical engineering technology student I can tell you that even the current being drawn from the CFL's is enough to create a hot spot significant enough to melt plastic and start a fire. It can all be caused by a single faulty terminal in a socket, so if you feel a hot spot replace the power bar or maybe learn some basic wiring skills to create a safer rig. I'm not trying to rag on you, I just want to make sure that the grow is safe and makes it to the end ;)

Cheers
Yea i have those 4 power bars connected to a single power bar.. i checked for hot spots and any signs of melting but their was none. The are tends to stay pretty cool in the outside so i think thats what may be helping. an btw i know ur not "rag'ing" me things like these make a grow are more productful and safer. Thanks for looking out. hope u stick around and provide more tech help. thanks +rep
 

electropyro

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Good grow so far, looks like a lady to me. that one little bulb sticking out with the 2 hairs is a very good sign. look for more, the more you see the better. And when ur ready for 12 - 12 you should start seeing buds within a week or 2
I forced flowered on the 8/9/10 and switched my lighting to 2700k clfs. so its been like 3 weeks now. one thing i think migh have happened is that it might have been stunned after the force flower for a week to a week in a half. since then their hasnt been much growth but its tending to start back on its trail now. Little sites of leafs are popping up every where. So far i have been using DG nutes for veg and flower but am gonnna start adding dyna-gro protekt now to my nute solution.

What Do u mean the little bulb sticking out with the 2 hairs?

Does anyone know a good thread on foilage feeding? i wanna give that a try to increase the growth.
 

electropyro

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I added a 23w 2700k cfl in the foilage to increase lighting and she took it well. she is loving it. I also took 3 cuttings and am trying to make clones. i cut the branches from the bottom and cut the bottom of the branches into a "V" shape and dipped it into clonex rooting gel. The started to began to get droppie at night i dont know if thats normal. i sprayed them with a mixture of distalled water and a few drops of Veg nutes. their is also a air pump that pushes alot of fresh air inside the container. i dont know if it help it re-cooperate in any way but i sure do hope so. can any one let em know if it was done right?
 

electropyro

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The air pump is sitting on top of the container of the girl and it Vibrates ALOT. Its like if the plant was getting a massage. Will it affect the growth of her?
 

Magnificient

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Your grow is going real good. Do you have any idea what's causing some of the leaves to brown? I have some like that on my plant. The usual is too much nutes, but that couldn't be the case with mine because I under-feed them.
 

electropyro

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Thats probably the reason am adding too much nutes to push the nute level to the limit to get the best out of it. but i cut back on the nutes once i noticed the burning.
 
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