Economy grows at 5.7 pct pace, fastest since 2003

FlyLikeAnEagle

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The Republicans are not happy. (Darn that Obama and those Democrats!) There must be some way the GOP can turn this into bad news...



Economy grows at fastest pace in 6 years

GDP data show 5.7 percent rate in Q4, a quicker pace than expected


The economy grew at a faster-than-expected 5.7 percent pace in the fourth quarter, the quickest in more than six years, as businesses made less-aggressive cuts to inventories and stepped up spending

The Commerce Department said on Friday its first estimate put fourth-quarter gross domestic product growth at its fastest pace since the third quarter of 2003. The economy expanded at a 2.2 percent annual rate in the third quarter

Analysts polled by Reuters had forecast GDP, which measures total goods and services output within U.S. borders, growing at a 4.6 percent rate in October-December period.

"Wow, great number. It's very solid and gives us a running start into the second half of the year when we can't rely on government stimulus," said Jack Ablin, chief investment officer at Harris Private Bank in Chicago. "That's part of the plan, to get us moving as fast as possible so when life support is removed we'll have a pulse."

U.S. stock index futures extended gains on the data, while Treasury debt prices deepened losses. The dollar rose against the yen.

Getting the economy on a sustainable growth track remains one of the key challenges facing President Barack Obama, who on Wednesday outlined a raft of measures to create jobs and nurture the recovery.

Growth was boosted by a sharp slowdown in the pace of inventory liquidation, a factor that could mask the strength of the economic recovery from the longest and deepest downturn since the Great Depression. But even stripping out inventories, the economy expanded at an annual rate of 2.2 percent, accelerating from the 1.5 percent increase in the third quarter, reflecting relatively strong performance from other segments of the economy.

Business inventories fell only $33.5 billion in fourth quarter after dropping $139.2 billion in the July-September period. The change in inventories alone added 3.39 percentage points to GDP in the last quarter. This was the biggest percentage contribution since the fourth quarter of 1987.
For the whole of 2009, the economy contracted 2.4 percent, the biggest decline since 1946, the first year after the end of World War II.

In the last three months of 2009, consumer spending increased at a 2 percent annual rate, below the 2.8 percent annual pace in the prior quarter when consumption got a boost from the government's "cash for clunkers" program.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35141308/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/
 

angelsbandit

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The numbers are artifically high due to the cash for clunkers, and home buyers tax rebates.

Plenty of this alledged growth was due to tax monies being spent on the above programs.
 

FlyLikeAnEagle

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The numbers are artifically high due to the cash for clunkers, and home buyers tax rebates.

Plenty of this alledged grouth was due to tax monies being spent on the above programs.
Business inventories fell only $33.5 billion in fourth quarter after dropping $139.2 billion in the July-September period. The change in inventories alone added 3.39 percentage points to GDP in the last quarter. This was the biggest percentage contribution since the fourth quarter of 1987.
 

BadDog40

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Sounds about right. It took Clinton about a year to fix the first Bush's mess. Bad news for righties, good news for the rest of us.
 

angelsbandit

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After dropping a record amount in the previous months business inventories could not have gone much lower - they had allready shed all the excess.

Smoke and mirrors man.
 

violator kush

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[like the other dude said, cash for clunkers, and home rebates, but now that every one is out of work, 17 percent, i think alot of ppl are starting small business, not out of wanting a business, just the need for money/not deal with the BS of 75% of companys out there.....
 
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Illegal Smile

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Would you like a double dip with your jobless recovery?
 

FlyLikeAnEagle

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After dropping a record amount in the previous months business inventories could not have gone much lower - they had allready shed all the excess.

Smoke and mirrors man.

Yep. And a year from now you will be saying the economy turned around due to Bush and Obama is riding his economy. :lol:
 

upnorth2505

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What the righties will never admit that Obama's economic policies are working they way they should. Basic Keynesian stuff.

The economy should start to add jobs next quarter. We have to remember that it will take all of Obama's term for the economy to really start performing. The Re-puke-icants and conservatives almost started another great depression. If it were not for Obama, we would really be screwed.

Peace.
 

ChChoda

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Wait wait wait...

If the dire economic situation we currently find ourselves in is Bush's fault, because of the past 8 years, shouldn't this increased inventory (because nobodies buying it :idea:) be attributed to Bush? Or is this Obama, but tomorrows crisis is Bush's, again?

PS- Prediction. This number will be revised downwards, twice...
 

upnorth2505

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Wait wait wait...

If the dire economic situation we currently find ourselves in is Bush's fault, because of the past 8 years, shouldn't this increased inventory (because nobodies buying it :idea:) be attributed to Bush? Or is this Obama, but tomorrows crisis is Bush's, again?

PS- Prediction. This number will be revised downwards, twice...
The fact of the matter is Bush trashed the economy. Bush started an unnecessary war in Iraq. And Bush and Cheney and other croneys profited obscenely through companies like Haliburton.:-P :-P :-P

Have a nice day.
 

ChChoda

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The fact of the matter is Bush trashed the economy.

Bush started an unnecessary war in Iraq.

And Bush and Cheney and other croneys profited obscenely through companies like Haliburton.:-P :-P :-P

Have a nice day.
BUSH BUSH BUSH (with a CHENEY kicker!)

That's a huge jackpot on the liberal logic slot machine! Congratulations!

:-P:-P:-P

 

FlyLikeAnEagle

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BUSH BUSH BUSH (with a CHENEY kicker!)

That's a huge jackpot on the liberal logic slot machine! Congratulations!
And for good reason. Its obvious to 90% of the people on this planet.

The truth about Republicans has surfaced in America. If they can't own America they want to disolve it. They would rather destroy our country than dig us out of the mess they created by electing George W Bush. Pathetic egos. Pathetic people. Republicans in the House and the Senate are owned by big corporations. They are useless to Americans at this point.
 

ChChoda

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And for good reason. Its obvious to 70% of the people in this country.

The truth about Democrats has surfaced in America. If they can't own America they want to disolve it. They would rather destroy our country than dig us out of the mess they created by electing FDR, FOR FOUR TERMS. Pathetic egos. Pathetic people. Democrats in the House and the Senate are owned by big corporations. They are useless to Americans at this point.

You can quote me on that.
 

figtree

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cant accept that something good is actually happening?
Oh i forgot, you dont want America to be fixed, thats right. you want Obama to fail, and in turn would like to see America fail, for what? so the right can have a rebirth? YEAH RIGHT. YOU RIGHTIES ARE ASSURING US THAT WONT HAPPEN.
who cares who is responsible, good is happening! although its kinda funny to hear the right switch gears again. just wait, they say sweep in 2012, i agree a sweep! the right is diggin a huge hole for themselves so watch it......Dem sweep in 2012 even with them losing some senators and representatives. the right is out of touch with just about every logical thinking American. America is tired of fear tactics, hate tactics, discrimination, ect. coming from the right. the majority of america at least.
 

figtree

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not only an unneccasary war, but a war they kept off the books, to make their monetary situation look better than it did. "oh we arent spending, really we arent. oh whats that? no, thats nothing...... just a war. dont look there though."
 

NoDrama

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Sarcasm on:

We just need more money inflation, the more money they print the easier it is to show improvements in the numbers. If they go ahead and print up say 100 quadrillion dollars, im sure all of our problems would go away. We will all be making $1,000 an hour at our min wage jobs too. We can easily pay off all our debt with that much money. Lets do it!!!

Sarcasm Off:
 

matthew

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The numbers are artifically high due to the cash for clunkers, and home buyers tax rebates.

Plenty of this alledged growth was due to tax monies being spent on the above programs.
How is that artificial? Governments spend during recession to spur economic growth, this is Macro Econ 101.
 

matthew

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After dropping a record amount in the previous months business inventories could not have gone much lower - they had allready shed all the excess.

Smoke and mirrors man.
Rationalize, rationalize, rationalize.....



Next you will tell us that socialist western Europe is really a hell hole.
 

matthew

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And for good reason. Its obvious to 70% of the people in this country.

The truth about Democrats has surfaced in America. If they can't own America they want to disolve it. They would rather destroy our country than dig us out of the mess they created by electing FDR, FOR FOUR TERMS. Pathetic egos. Pathetic people. Democrats in the House and the Senate are owned by big corporations. They are useless to Americans at this point.

You can quote me on that.
This kind of rabid partisanship is what is destroying America. It's not enough to disagree with your political opponent, they have to be secretly working to destroy you. McCarthy used it, Soviet Russia used it, Iran is currently using it....
 
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