EC Vs TDS

cheechZS

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Just curious how u guys check the conductivity of your water,being EC vs TDS. I've had this debate before with a few different people,just seeing your guys opinion. I personally use a bluelab meter and always read EC i use TDS/PPM sometimes at topoff at a .7 conversion rate. I will do the same when i get started again this time rdwc with a constant monitor...u guys?
 
Only your plant knows where it should be,thats what we all look for. Gotta find where she holds and keep it there,meaning eating and drinking the same amount. Then your conductivity should change much as long as u got ph level and such under control. TDS represented in PPMs is just a conversion rate of EC,so why not just read EC?
 
One thing is reading it and the other is knowing what to do.

EC is the direct measurement of the electrical conductivity of the fluid. PPM is the calculated part per million of ionic salt concentration. The problem with that is the conversion factor. Someone here just mentioned 0.7 but there is also 0.5 which we seem to use commonly in the USA. And there 0.62 for certain instruments.

And then there is calibration with is temperature specific.

So, .5 is easy. That's 500 ppm. As to how much, how far, how fast....I'm just an amateur on that. Some types are hungry some are more frugal. So, for me anything over 400 or so total ppm feels dangerous. Some guys claim they can push to 1200, 1500 or more. I have never got there. I have killed some pushing too hard.

Just take it easy. RO water with rooting hormones until you get good roots. I brew microbes and use Rhizotonic to try to support the root zone. To me now, roots are everything. And too much, too soon, rushing up the ppm is no good.
 
I see what you're saying. But if you're going by ec you may get off on ppm, right? What I mean is, if your ph isn't ideal then your ppm won't read correctly but your ec may read normal. Or is this completely off base?
 
One thing is reading it and the other is knowing what to do.

EC is the direct measurement of the electrical conductivity of the fluid. PPM is the calculated part per million of ionic salt concentration. The problem with that is the conversion factor. Someone here just mentioned 0.7 but there is also 0.5 which we seem to use commonly in the USA. And there 0.62 for certain instruments.

And then there is calibration with is temperature specific.

So, .5 is easy. That's 500 ppm. As to how much, how far, how fast....I'm just an amateur on that. Some types are hungry some are more frugal. So, for me anything over 400 or so total ppm feels dangerous. Some guys claim they can push to 1200, 1500 or more. I have never got there. I have killed some pushing too hard.

Just take it easy. RO water with rooting hormones until you get good roots. I brew microbes and use Rhizotonic to try to support the root zone. To me now, roots are everything. And too much, too soon, rushing up the ppm is no good.
Hmmm...I believe u we're right on track with the 1st part. Did u mean to say 400 total ppms is dangerous though? I believe at .5 conversion 500ppm is 1.0 EC and at .7 700ppm is 1.0 EC. Highest I've ran is 1.4 EC which is roughly 1100-1200ppms
 
I see what you're saying. But if you're going by ec you may get off on ppm, right? What I mean is, if your ph isn't ideal then your ppm won't read correctly but your ec may read normal. Or is this completely off base?
If your ph isn't in the proper range then nothing else matters
 
My personal belief is that ppm is more accurate, for example and ec of .8 is 400ppm's wereas .9 is 450ppm's a difference of 50 points, so if you're trying to maintain a ppm of say 400 your ec will read .8 but your ppm's could be 425, 430, or 440, maybe not much of a difference but your plant will know and it could make a difference, just my opinion.
 
My personal belief is that ppm is more accurate, for example and ec of .8 is 400ppm's wereas .9 is 450ppm's a difference of 50 points, so if you're trying to maintain a ppm of say 400 your ec will read .8 but your ppm's could be 425, 430, or 440, maybe not much of a difference but your plant will know and it could make a difference, just my opinion.

yessir,we all have our own ways and methods. Its not right or wrong its what works for us.
 
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