Easy, Brainless Cloning

Chef BrownSauce

Active Member
This is my first post here.
In this thread I will share my cloning technique. As the title implies it is really simple. I've learned in my time as an amateur gardener that less is more in a lot of cases. I took everything that I know and learned and decided to take on growing cannabis. In my research I learned about this wonderful plant that it may be able to be propagated using the simple methodsimple method.jpg , which is to bury an offshoot without cutting it off the "mother"; roots will shoot from the nodes.
Cannabis is an herbaceous plant, it is non-woody, and typically treated as an annual. They veg, flower, then die. I found that you can keep cannabis in veg light cycle for as long as you need to achieve the size you want before flowering. If you were to look under a magnifying glass at a cross section of stem you'll see that there are vascular bundles from the roots to the leaves. Long story short, vascular bundles do what they sound like they do. In the human body they carry blood, in plants they carry water and nutrients from the roots up to the tips. (Look at a cut of celery. Those darker green dots are the bundles).
On to the cloning!!
NOTE:
It is essential that you clip as close to the main stalk as you can. This is where the vascular bundle is the "fattest" on the skinny thin shoot.
It should be pliable and green. With at least three nodes. You will cut off the first node.

ogk cross sect.jpgstemcrosdicot.GIF here is a cross section of a node I cut for demo. I used a magnifier that clips to my phone to take pix. http://www.amazon.com/Sky-Rocket-AppScope-Attach-Microscope/dp/B00O5ZNY9U/ref=pd_sim_107_45?ie=UTF8&refRID=0QRVWPPM6W7QXAH2WEWV
Make an aggressive mixture of hydroponics solution. I use General Hydroponics brand, I know they just sold out to the evil Miracle-Gro but I already had the stuff. Not gonna Not use it..

This will sound like blasphemy but hear me out. Choose a node and remove the fan leaf. Snap it off or use a clean cutter. Removing the fan will divert all energy and nutrient flow from making a bigger leaf to making a bigger node. This guy will grow into a new plant, essentially. Once it grows its own three nodes, you'll remove it. I think that more that three it'll be too stiff to work.
Clip the shoot with a clean cutting tool off the stalk and cut at an acute angle. The more surface area up the side the better.

Anyway, set up a small DWC tub, maybe a gallon size.
Make sure that you have an air pump for O2.
Set your regular growing light on a 20/4 schedule. (As you see in the pix, I just have a single 6500K bulb)
Cut holes and stick the stems in the solution.
Spray the inside of a transparent dome with plain water and cover cuttings. This will help in transpiration since there's no roots system. Dome should have holes as vents.
Within a week or so you should see roots start to shoot out.
clone tub.jpg ogk full.jpg
I stress to cut as close to the main stalk as you can. I started with two cutting from an OGK and two from an AK47. This OGK is the only one that rooted. The others never rooted because I cut them too far out where it wasn't as green and pliable. They were not dying, but they weren't growing either. They actually browned up a bit (not from nutrient stains) and got thicker like it does at the main stalk. Take a close look at your plants. You'll notice that there's slight shades of brown in mature branches.

In my never-ending quest to know how things work I will continue to experiment with these girls and post my findings. Hope this is helpful to some people noobs and pros alike. This technique is useful for propagating other herbaceous plants and vines! Attached is a collage of my house plants that I've multiplied using this method. Works with oregano, grape vines, rosemary, thyme, and other herbs. Happy planting.
 

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Welcome and thanks for sharing, but this is over-complicating things.

I like to do it really easy and brainless:
DIY aerocloner (or pre-built system) with tap water running either continuously or at a cycle of your choice, I like 30 on 30 off. Just don't let them dry out.
No dome, no nutrients, no pH. Low watt CFL on 24/7.
Take cutting, razor or scissors, 0-45 degree cut, bottom or top of plant, woody or spindly cutting, scraped or not, don't think too hard about it.
Put directly in neoprene collar and into cloner, come back a few days/weeks later depending on strain, and you have roots, guaranteed.
 

Chef BrownSauce

Active Member
Welcome and thanks for sharing, but this is over-complicating things.

I like to do it really easy and brainless:
DIY aerocloner (or pre-built system) with tap water running either continuously or at a cycle of your choice, I like 30 on 30 off. Just don't let them dry out.
No dome, no nutrients, no pH. Low watt CFL overhead.
Take cutting, razor or scissors, 0-45 degree cut, bottom or top of plant, woody or spindly cutting, scraped or not, don't think too hard about it.
Put directly in neoprene collar and into cloner, come back a few days/weeks later depending on strain, and you have roots, guaranteed.
Lol
 

Chef BrownSauce

Active Member
Lol, I have an analyst nature. I never liked being told to do something just because and not know why or how. So I wrote it as "this is what I did. This is why it works." From trial and error I found out a lot of similarities to growing fruits and veg and landscaping plants. Some people want to know more than "Do this, it works", without asking questions. That's how you become a slave.
 

Chef BrownSauce

Active Member
Yea bruh. Thanks for reading it.
Maybe I'll rename the thread to "Why this works".
You already had previous knowledge on cloning. Thanks for sharing.
 

Texas_Red67

New Member
UGH ChefBrown you should really check out my luck on cloning (100 attempts and 100 fail from a turbokloner 25)....for the folks that are trying to add all these root accelerators to the water, I'm not sure but i think this is just making things more prone to mold....tried adding silica blast to first 25...had MAJOR molding issues early and eventually damped off....next 25, knocked out silica and PH water downs to 5.7 (strangely seems to be a sweet spot for mold formation when i did a little research)..mold again after bleaching and peroxide washing the whole thing....next 25....brought cloner inside and moved to 30 on 30 off mist pump, put little mini ply wood sheets under res and painted outside ENTIRELY white to keep res temps down AND moved into the house that stays at around 69-74....FAIL....last one may have been my fault lol...had to hide kloner for 2 days....they were shriveled and a little to the left like Jim Carrey in Liar Liar....i dont use superthrive but i do use cloning Gels..do the presoak in 6.5 tap water before hand..i know a lot of guys SWEAR by superthrive but I am not what its used for...i use all Fox Farm nutes on my ladies so i have kangaroots and microbe brew along with a AAG root rot fighter (that crap is amazing for a DWC thats letting light in for the record...need some help guys..i managed to clone 5 females from the last one and these are where i am now..i used rockwool and wrapped the cubes in cut up peices of wal mart sack to hold moisture but i dont know what exactly i did right......my blue dreams are currently on week 6 of flowering and my phenotype is sensi from 9 other BDS so I reaaaaallly dont want to lose this lineage, considering how INSANELY they are responding to topping and super cropping a SCROG 150 gal unified res DWC...(know im dating myself but my 4X4 is MAXED out with MAJOR buds) ...PLEASE HELP WITH THE CLONING PART...i got 5 BCBig Bud and 5 BC Albino Rhino coming in that are about a month and half old but i DONT want to lose my sentimental BD....im still somewhat of a noob for cloning guys.....any one else had just HORRIBLE luck with aero cloners? Am i missing something? the clonder came with a dome but there are no holes in the lid fyi
 

mr sunshine

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Seems way to complicated of an explanation, imo. You applied to much brain, bro. Try to change the title or use less brain, either one works.
 
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