Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

homebrewer

homebrewer

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AUSCraig said:
Hello. Lots of reading. Read most. So forgive me if I missed something. This test was done in 2011. Was the range PH perfect back then ? I use AN simply because it's easy to use and I don't need to mess with PH adjustment. Is there anything out there cheaper that I can try where I don't need to adjust ph levels. ? I'm not lazy , I just spend enough time with my tomato plants already and want things to take less time.
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The pH perfect stuff wasn't available at the time of this test but the gimmick that is 'pH perfect' would not have changed the outcome. What would have improved AN's results is the use of higher quality ingredients (no urea, no other water soluble nitrogen) and a more desirable NPK ratio for hydroponics.

In regards to your question, just about every plant food on the market is less expensive and easier to use than what AN is offering. According to AN's site, each part of connoisseur should be ran at roughly 16ml/gal. That means that I would have used about 1.4 gallons of plant food in this test alone. THAT is not only expensive but that rate-of-use would require A LOT of trips to the grow store. I don't know how much growing experience you have but trips to the grow store take way more time than adjusting the pH of a reservoir a few times per week.

In regards to your comment about not wanting to 'mess with pH adjustments', it looks like you're running a drain-to-waste drip system according to your pics in this thread (https://www.rollitup.org/t/marshydro-led-grow.839368/page-39#post-11306228) so for you just about anything should be pH-stable since you don't recirculate. If you were running a recirculating system, I've heard Canna is pH stable and in my experience DynaGro is too. I just finished a 4 week ebb-n-flow veg cycle with protekt and foliage pro and the pH never moved from the 5.7 - 5.9 range. On top of that, a nine week flowering cycle in my 18 gallon res can be completed with about a litre of plant food. That's not only economical but that absolutely cuts down on the trips to the grow store.
 
AUSCraig

AUSCraig

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I'm running full recirculating . 200 L res. I agree connessuir is a little steep in price terms. Not my choice Of nute either.
I've grown many tomatoes before and I haven't had to adjust ph once with sensi in a wilma.
My tomatoes look to be at least a pound with a 600w hps OG hood. I'm pretty pleased with this considering the ease of use.

The other nute you mentioned . I'll have a look into it. if it's cheaper and I never have to adjust I'll give it a go.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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AUSCraig said:
I'm running full recirculating . 200 L res. I agree connessuir is a little steep in price terms. Not my choice Of nute either.
I've grown many tomatoes before and I haven't had to adjust ph once with sensi in a wilma.
My tomatoes look to be at least a pound with a 600w hps OG hood. I'm pretty pleased with this considering the ease of use.

The other nute you mentioned . I'll have a look into it. if it's cheaper and I never have to adjust I'll give it a go.
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No offense but are you really that lazy that you can't spare the 2 minutes that it takes every other day to adjust the pH of a reservoir? DG is pH stable in RO water for me but even if it wasn't there are about 5 other attributes that make it the *best* plant food for my garden. Sorry, it's just puzzling to me that you're OK with all the drawbacks that come with using a product from AN just so you can save 6 minutes per week. To each their own I guess.
 
AUSCraig

AUSCraig

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Nevermind. I see this is just another AN bash page.
No real answers Whilst you hate AN for their work on selling to sheep you are doing the exact same thing on this page with your sheep.
AN is great for me and I'll continue to use it.
Have fun hating
 
AUSCraig

AUSCraig

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'Comparison' thread
LOL.
from the get go it sounded like you hated AN and had a big stiffy for Dyna.
Next time don't be so bias throughout your 'comparison' Test.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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AUSCraig said:
'Comparison' thread
LOL.
from the get go it sounded like you hated AN and had a big stiffy for Dyna.
Next time don't be so bias throughout your 'comparison' Test.
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If you can't post facts, figures, or science to back up the nonsense coming from your keyboard then I'm going to have to ask you to leave and I'll have your posts deleted. The grow journal section is a troll free zone unlike every other forum on this site.

Read this thread:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/do-not-post-in-other-peoples-grow-journals-unless-asked.1389/
 
LuckyLefty112

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I gotta say, as someone who ran a.n. before, YES, ph is SOO much easier with ph perfect, however, seed to harvest, 4-5 total bottles, with figures like 2-5ml/gal, as opposed to 15+, money wise, aLOT cheaper for dYna, ph was annoying for me too at first, and hb, those nutes are doing me well, and i look to save about $100-150 this grow on nutes alone, with only 20gal res. Thats including my veg plants which are in small drip systems, so call it 25 gallons. So thanks for your input, and please dont be swayed, people like me neEd people like you. Youre solely responsible for me going dyna-gro, and maybe a.n. is easier to use in some ways, but i think knowing why my plants react a certain way is relevant to my Experience as a grower. ThereeThere's too many weed snobs who act like they never got advice before...
 
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b29

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homebrewer said:
Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur final writeup

*** Cliffs notes: I paid more for lower yields and more daily work ***

Great Comparison and excellent, objective assessment. I'm no expert. Only have one hydro gro using GH nutes but it was pretty successful. For my second grow I was considering trying AN Connoisseur but the pretty labels and hype had me wondering if it was really worth experimenting. Thanks Homebrewer. I'll try dynaGro or someting else. this says it all:


Well, fertilizer in and of itself is a little magical in my opinion. But magical in the factual scientific sense, not magical like Harry Potter which is what Advanced Nutrients would like you to believe.
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b29

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Homebrewer, both look pretty good. My first hydro was in rockwool using GH inside. I was just tooling up, getting lights and buidling a top feed recirc system growing 6 plants-kali, blue widow and skunk. Success was amazing but I vegged for a long time and the plants in SOG sort of took over. Also, I probably should have harvested a little sooner, Kept looking for that amber and while the smoke is pretty good I think the buz on my sample taken a week earlier than harvest gave me more of what I wanted. Live and learn. I did flush at the end but just with water. I do find the smoke a bit harsh eveny though I think I have done a good cure (I'm in what once was prime tobacco land so I can appreciate a good cure). I have read much of the debate about organic vs syn nutes/ soil vs hydro and the quality of the smoke so I have no idea at this point what is best. Preparing for my next grow now so I may try to include a mix of hydro(again rockwool) vs promix blend (organic) to see if I notice one is smooter than the other.

You did a great comparison and I commend yur objectivity. I'm going to catch up on your other journals and look forward to seeing more. Thanks for the recomendatinon. Keep growing and homebrewing! I like my brew and have just started playing with a distiller--of course, I'm just making distilled water for my garden!
 
lerster

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Hey hb, not sure if you remember me at rm3's forum but what happened to it? I tried to contact rm3 but he isn't replying...is there a new site? If there is can you send it to me privately?
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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lerster said:
Hey hb, not sure if you remember me at rm3's forum but what happened to it? I tried to contact rm3 but he isn't replying...is there a new site? If there is can you send it to me privately?
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Yeah, Rid updated and move the site. You might need a certain number of posts before you can send a PM here.
 
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