homebrewer
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My lights would bleach the sh*t out of my plants at that height. Maybe the difference is in the reflectors, I shoot for 5000 foot candles at the canopy, max.
Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)
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joe macclennan
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yeah, i'm running sunsystems xxxls. I have a lux meter now and I just checked them a few days ago.
I believe it read somewhere between 70-90k lux..if I remember right.
shit, now i'm gonna have to do the conversion..brb
edit: so that translates to 6503-8361 footcandles.
I believe it read somewhere between 70-90k lux..if I remember right.
shit, now i'm gonna have to do the conversion..brb
edit: so that translates to 6503-8361 footcandles.
stevegreens
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Newbie here, but have a ph pen and tds meter and I'm doing flood and drain. Could you give the suggested feeding schedule for hydro like you offered below. I don't see a summary but I am learning a lot. And am trying to piece it together. I have been doing dirt with GH but have got the tables and blocks for this setup all ready to go for the DG.
Thanks for all the help.
Thanks for all the help.
homebrewer
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You don't need protekt but it's a nice silica additive. I'd suggest protekt and Grow (or foliage pro) in veg, maybe .7 EC. For flower I'd recommend protekt and then a 50/50 mix of bloom and grow (or bloom and foliage pro) at around 1.0 EC. A good grow requires more than good plant food though, good luck!
j.ride
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Let's keep this Dyna-Gro party going! I'm still getting good growth, well over 1" a day for sure. I inherited some bugs so I made a dichotomous earth/water spray and went to town. That would be the white on the leaves. It's keeping the little buggers much more in check than Azamax for pennies on the dollar. There were no adverse reactions and I don't think it's slowed down growth much, if at all. I'll probably do a rinse before the flowering really kicks in.
This is 8 days into 12/12 and everything is bushing out nicely. I'm sorry for the cropped pic but this is what I have for now. I'm actually really enjoying being a horticulturist and it's doing wonders for my winter blues.
This is 8 days into 12/12 and everything is bushing out nicely. I'm sorry for the cropped pic but this is what I have for now. I'm actually really enjoying being a horticulturist and it's doing wonders for my winter blues.
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joe macclennan
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good job man+++ Looks very nice.
homebrewer
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Those look nice, keep doing what you're doing!
j.ride
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Homebrewer,
I like your methods of working smarter, not harder. Its been 5 weeks now since Ive been at this and Id say Ive saved a good 5 minutes a day not mixing and balancing nutrients under the not quite so ideal system handed down to me. 5 minutes x 7 days in a week x 5 weeks = 175 minutes saved so far in a little over a month. This is not including any time I would have to spend researching and trying to compensate for nutrient deficiencies.
Its been about two and a half years since you reached your final conclusion in this test. Say 100 people listened and switched over from their over complicated feeding routines. 100 seems low and its probably way more than that given the views this thread has had, but lets stick with 100. Say each person saved an average of 5 minutes a day switching over to dyna-gro. Again, 5 minutes is probably on the low side, but lets run with it.
So its been 900 days since page 50 of this thread. Multiplied by 100 people at 5 minutes, that gives us an extremely conservative estimate of 450,000 minutes. Thats almost an entire year. So spread out over everyone whos listened and made the switch, its likely youve saved the human race almost an entire years worth (working 24x7x365) of mixing and balancing nutrients. That number could potentially be 10 or 100 times higher.
All this is not even taking into account how much more yield the world has benefited from your information. Its probably measured in metric tons. The amount of plastic saved from not using watered down multi-part solutions is probably in the metric tons. The amount of phosphorus saved from not overfeeding our plants from what they do not need is probably measured in the metric tons as well.
Good job Sir. You deserve a pat on the back. Its not every day that someone measurably makes the world a better place.
I like your methods of working smarter, not harder. Its been 5 weeks now since Ive been at this and Id say Ive saved a good 5 minutes a day not mixing and balancing nutrients under the not quite so ideal system handed down to me. 5 minutes x 7 days in a week x 5 weeks = 175 minutes saved so far in a little over a month. This is not including any time I would have to spend researching and trying to compensate for nutrient deficiencies.
Its been about two and a half years since you reached your final conclusion in this test. Say 100 people listened and switched over from their over complicated feeding routines. 100 seems low and its probably way more than that given the views this thread has had, but lets stick with 100. Say each person saved an average of 5 minutes a day switching over to dyna-gro. Again, 5 minutes is probably on the low side, but lets run with it.
So its been 900 days since page 50 of this thread. Multiplied by 100 people at 5 minutes, that gives us an extremely conservative estimate of 450,000 minutes. Thats almost an entire year. So spread out over everyone whos listened and made the switch, its likely youve saved the human race almost an entire years worth (working 24x7x365) of mixing and balancing nutrients. That number could potentially be 10 or 100 times higher.
All this is not even taking into account how much more yield the world has benefited from your information. Its probably measured in metric tons. The amount of plastic saved from not using watered down multi-part solutions is probably in the metric tons. The amount of phosphorus saved from not overfeeding our plants from what they do not need is probably measured in the metric tons as well.
Good job Sir. You deserve a pat on the back. Its not every day that someone measurably makes the world a better place.
resetjenkins
Active Member
After reading through these posts I have come up with the following below but still need to iron out some details.
In veg you only use dyna grow and Pro Tekt (already have the pro-tekt)
start out at 300 ppm and raise it to 600 ppm. .85 ec
during flower though you give a minimum of 1 ml of Dyna grow and feed the rest of the 850-900 ppm with Dyna bloom and Pro-Tekt 5ml
1.2-1.3 ec
lowering to 1 ec for the last couple weeks of flower.
But can you tell me how much Dyna Grow - grow you are giving week by week for the flowering stage and do you cut it out completely at any point for your average 9 week strain.
I see you said a 50/50 mix to stevegreens but that's not what I thought I read previously. So please let me know and thanks for all the help.
(flood and drain sealed room with 4" blocks)
Thanks
In veg you only use dyna grow and Pro Tekt (already have the pro-tekt)
start out at 300 ppm and raise it to 600 ppm. .85 ec
during flower though you give a minimum of 1 ml of Dyna grow and feed the rest of the 850-900 ppm with Dyna bloom and Pro-Tekt 5ml
1.2-1.3 ec
lowering to 1 ec for the last couple weeks of flower.
But can you tell me how much Dyna Grow - grow you are giving week by week for the flowering stage and do you cut it out completely at any point for your average 9 week strain.
I see you said a 50/50 mix to stevegreens but that's not what I thought I read previously. So please let me know and thanks for all the help.
(flood and drain sealed room with 4" blocks)
Thanks
homebrewer
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I'm always looking for a better way as these days I've been using foliage pro + bloom during flowering. I'm getting some things ironed out but it looks like it performs at least as well as grow+bloom. I think 50/50 is a good place to start flowering with either combination, where you end up is up to you and your plants. Experiment, see what works best and report back
Party
Member
I've been beating my head against the wall reading and trying to figure out a good set of nutrients for both stages of growth. What would you recommend in terms on nutrients for each stage.I'm always looking for a better way as these days I've been using foliage pro + bloom during flowering. I'm getting some things ironed out but it looks like it performs at least as well as grow+bloom. I think 50/50 is a good place to start flowering with either combination, where you end up is up to you and your plants. Experiment, see what works best and report back
From the Dyna-grow side*
homebrewer
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Hydro or 'dirt'?
Party
Member
sorry hydro dwc 5gal
homebrewer
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I think protekt is a nice silica additive so I use that on the veg and flower side. As for veg, either DG's 'grow' or 'foliage pro' would be an excellent choice. For flower I'd recommend a split of grow+bloom or foliage pro+Bloom. As long as your water isn't all jacked up, these bottles will grow really great plants.
Party
Member
I'm having some difficulty understanding what you mean would you be so kind as to list off what your talking about. I'm reading off amazon and can't find anything like what you're talking about "Grow+bloom or foliage pro+bloom". I'm lost to say the least
Lucius Vorenus
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Now you're recommending Bloom? In every other thread you have been touting running FP all the way through. Make up yo mind chico!
homebrewer
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For container gardening, foliage pro is the way to go. He's a hydro guy, for some reason things are different in hydro.
homebrewer
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Grow and bloom or Foliage pro and bloom.
resetjenkins
Active Member
I understand what you mean about it's what to plants want, but since you have done this for some time with my type of plant (AK-47 at the moment) and I am not a seasoned vet could you tell me an average of how much bloom to grow or (foliage pro) you give throughout your flower cycle.I'm always looking for a better way as these days I've been using foliage pro + bloom during flowering. I'm getting some things ironed out but it looks like it performs at least as well as grow+bloom. I think 50/50 is a good place to start flowering with either combination, where you end up is up to you and your plants. Experiment, see what works best and report back
Do you end up cutting grow or (foliage pro) usually? How much week by week if you do?
Do you yourself taper it off or go up and then taper off etc? Or are you saying you yourself do the 50/50 mix throughout the entire cycle usually.
I will try different things with one tray but would much rather go with what has been done previously with your favorite results.
I understand the PPM's and how you don't want to go over certain numbers but I am used to charts where they can tell you what ratio to give of grow and when etc. So if you could clarify this I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
If anyone else who has used Homebrewer's method of Dyna Gro with flood and drain blocks that has had great results would like to chime in I would greatly appreciate it as well.