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Lord Bonkey

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Just reading between the lines
A classical education is rare these days an not even RC priests speak it well, fluency is difficult unless you inhabit a peculiar academic social niche.
Let's continue on
An potes, et liberaliter educatus Latine vere dicere?
I dont have a classical or free education,
I have a lords education,

Secular priests dont speak it well, but lots of RC priests and Episcopalians also speak great church latin.

you obviously arent retarded, which is rare here.
is there any reason we are trying to make enemies of each other?

a gift
 

DIY-HP-LED

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is there any reason we are trying to make enemies of each other?
Don't spread hate and suffering, don't defend Trump, he's going down and you don't need the grief.

The law evolves like science, policy and the courts are a reflection of modern society, as it was back in the 17th century. Laws and legal scholarship is in English today and has been for a long time. End up in court over hate crime laws and you will see what I mean.

If you are a Christian? My last correspondence with a minister friend, giving her ideas for the revival of her church (my former one) and help people too, form a community of happy people.

She has a link to this thread and a suggestion that she join! Fire & Brimstone would be a good name!
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Morning Rev (changed name) Anglican = (Episcopalian in the States). The King was the the titular head of the church, the Queen is today.
Had a sit and I've got Morning Joe on in the background and the news is more appalling than ever, Donald Trump! 10,000's of Kurd's are about to be massacred, this morning, perhaps a genocide... Not too jolly today and I'm also seeing cognitive dissidence and delusion driven denial from his supporters, on corruption and literal treason, welcome to America! ( Loyal allies, the secular Kurd's, are being betrayed on the field of battle).

A Thought

I figure you know more about this and have thought more than me about this, I never even googled it or have much experience, a fresh ignorant perspective is sometimes interesting!
Google can come later, so that original thoughts (those of worth, everything else is learned!) and others ideas can then complete a though. Most of the time someone figured it out before ya and it's on the web some where at a university more frequently and in the science section more often, psychology and sociology are mistakenly studied as separate topics in my opinion (others too and they got the letters, as in behind their names), so....

Congregation = community

People coalesce around a common belief that units them in purpose, offers a set of simple values, a hopeful vision of the future, supports a delusion of the denial of death (heaven, don't think too closely though). A connection to something larger than themselves, a version of reality (the truth), emotional support, social defense and support and of course good old fashioned warriors, with spears, guns and of late, ideas and words.

Any of the above that does not apply to your congregation? Did I miss anything? (outside of beliefs) core social values, and even preferred cognitive states, that we for the most part agree upon. What is the intention behind a congregation? Spreading doctrine and dogma? Using the core message of Jesus to create a vibrant living community of people, with lot's of young disciples running every imaginable positive social activity for adults, families and children. Day care services should be eagerly sought they are problems for those you serve, but opportunities for you, not for dogma, but for their benefit. Sunday school goes with out mention, but it is also a way to get religion into schools! You would feel quite comfortable, dog collar or not, teaching a class or two in high school, line up yer ducks and go for the school board with a free sample lesson!

Mindfulness is about me and you, us and them, and feeling right with in ourselves, when we feel right with others, including families, friends, neighbors and communities (our churches too), if we have a reason to go. Remember feeling spiritual if quite natural. and even a hard boiled old atheist like me feels a strong presence of God after practicing. Scientists talk like priests and saints in this business and have become angels among us, they are my true heroes, I walked the path with some, I'm really following along now... Start in the church basement and start small, the kids! Your teachings can be secular on Thursday and in a Christian context on Sunday in the basement, people still need rituals and music, sermons too, that's done up stairs. Why let the Buddhist have all the fun? They are screwing this stuff up too!

Use these materials to transform yourself, congregation, community and Church. Follow first, then lead, bring some life into your world and that of those you serve, your parishioners and institution, both just trying to do the right thing.

With modern technology, people are lonely and need a sense of community, there seems to be a Christian social science experiment in community building and congregation building going on at an old school. Such zeal is usually fueled by fundamentalism and I would not wanna piss on the guy's parade, he's doing something positive also. He is operating out of an old school, growing fast and raising money, if the improvements to the property are anything to go by. Might drop by a Saturday event and privately corner the guy ( I'm a prospective heathen! Save me!) and check him out. Claiming Christian belief means little to me, respect depends on behavior as do my words. I'll be looking for a joyful heart myself, he appears to be working for others, a true believer, no sweat, even with a fundamentalist. Conversion is like trolling though and it works both ways. I love visits from Mormons, don't get any though, I invite them in and offer a hot coffee and tell'm we should speak honestly and with honor, then I speak of Joseph Smith and his real life. They leave quickly, the coffee is of course unmade, bullshit runs, but the truth sticks around. It's a mistake to try and convert me, the reverse usually happens, so I often remain silent.

Others first is the end of the path, yourself the beginning, the journey is what lies in between, your life. There are many ways up the mountain, find your path, you are most of the way there now, for your heart if pure and your passions quiet, it won't take ya long at all. All paths are blocked by hatred, fear and greed, those must be purged from the soul. If you do, all of the above and a whole lot more will be done too, for you, as well as others. I'm certain of that. Your work gives you a unique opportunity to not just be happy (you know this), but to have a heart full of joy and happiness. A practice builds wisdom and strength of the heart and soul, emulate Christ, love thy neighbor, as you would love yourself, the kingdom of heaven lies with in... To enjoy the view, you must fist climb the mountain, there are many paths up the mountain all are blocked by hate. Compassion comes first.

This is useful for me to use as future notes, if my computer blows up it's on a google sever and it's easy to find to. I get to write to a big, smart heart and maybe put the bug in her ear too. Spread good deeds and words, not evil ones.

Hope it was useful and motivational too, edit and forward for counsel if you wish.
John (She is also a family friend)
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My Christian name: John = to be gracious*. To get into heaven, a Christian must first attain a state of grace, drop yer hate and baggage now.
I'm an atheist and do not believe in an eternal divine North Korea, at least ya can die there, God would be Donald!

Saints meditate to become saints, not because they started out like that, though some are lucky, I guess.


I'm not a Buddhist, or a Christian, I'm an atheist with training and values, others first as my intention, let's me play with the rule book a bit....
Kinda like Jesus and some saints I heard of.............
This my teaching
DYI = (Do Yerself In) @ RIU.
DIY-HP-LED too = @RIU
Bodhidharma = Awake to the way of the world, and us, me too! (formerly). Pali word, vernacular of Sanskrit.
Now, John, or Buddy, cuck, retard, or even asshole too! (Current & preferred). Notorious ear chewer too! I draw blood!


*My Christian name: English form of Iohannes, the Latin form of the Greek name Ιωαννης (Ioannes), itself derived from the Hebrew name יוֹחָנָן (Yochanan) meaning "YAHWEH is gracious", from the roots יוֹ (yo) referring to the Hebrew God and חָנַן (chanan) meaning "to be gracious".
 
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Lord Bonkey

Well-Known Member
Don't spre

Don't spread hate and suffering, don't defend Trump he's going down and you don't need the grief.

The law evolves like science, policy and the courts are a reflection of modern society as it was in the 17th. Laws and legal scolarship is in English and has been for a long time. End up in court over hate crime laws and you will see what I mean.

If you are a christian? My last correspondence with a minister friend, giving her ideas for the revival of her church (my former one) and help people too, form a community of happy people.
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Morning Rev (changed name)
Had a sit and I've got Morning Joe on in the background and the news is more appalling than ever, Donald Trump! 10,000's of Kurd's are about to be massacred, this morning, perhaps a genocide... Not too jolly today and I'm also seeing cognitive dissidence and delusion driven denial from his supported on corruption and literal treason, welcome to America! ( Loyal allies are being betrayed on the field of battle).

I figure you know more about this and have thought more than me about this, I never even googled it or have much experience, a fresh ignorant perspective is sometimes interesting! Google can come later, so that original thoughts (those of worth, everything else is learned!) and others ideas can then complete a though. Most of the time someone figered it out before ya and it's on the web some where at a university more frequently and in the science section more often, psychology and sociology are mistakenly studied as separate topics in my opinion (others too and they got the letters, as in behind their names), so....

Congregation = community

People coalesce around a common belief that units them in purpose, offers a set of simple values, a hopeful vision of the future, supports a delusion of the denial of death (heaven, don't think too closely though). A connection to something larger than themselves, a version of reality(the truth), emotional support, social defense and support and of course good old fashioned warriors, with spears, guns and of late, ideas and words.

Any of the above that does not apply to your congregation? Did I miss anything? (outside of beliefs) core social values and even preferred cognitive states we for the most part agree upon. What is the intention behind a congregation? Spreading doctrine and dogma? Using the core message of Jesus to create a vibrant living community of people with lot's of young disciples running every imaginable positive social activity for adults, families and children. Day care services should be eagerly sought they are problems for those you serve, but opportunities for you, not for dogma, but for their benefit. Sunday school goes with out mention, but it is also a way to get religion into schools! You would feel quite comfortable, dog collar or not, teaching a class or two in high school, line up yer ducks and go for the school board with a free sample lesson!

Mindfulness is about me and you, us and them, and feeling right with in ourselves, when we feel right with others, including families, friends, neighbors and communities (our churches too), if we have a reason to go. Remember spirituality are quite natural and even a hard boiled atheist like me feels a strong presence of God after practicing. Scientists talk like priests and saints in this business and have become angels among us, they are my true heroes, I walked the path with some, I'm really following along now... Start in the church basement and start small, the kids! Your teachings can be secular on Thursday and in a Christian context on Sunday. Why let the Buddhist have all the fun? They are screwing this stuff up too! Use these materials to transform yourself, congregation, community and Church. Follow first then lead, bring some life into your world and that of those you serve, your parishioners and institution, both just trying to do the right thing.

With modern technology, people are lonely and need a sense of community, there seems to be a Christian social science experiment in community building and congregation building going on at the old Fairview school. Such zeal is usually fueled by fundamentalism and I would not wanna piss on the guy's parade, he's doing something positive also. He is operating out of an old school, growing fast and raising money, if the improvements to the property are anything to go by. Might drop by a Saturday event and privately corner the guy ( I'm a prospective heathen!, convince me!) and check him out.. Know him? is he a good man? Claiming Christian belief means little to me, respect depends on behavior as do my words. I'll be looking for a joyful heart myself, he appears to be working for others, a true believer, no sweat, even with a fundamentalist. Conversion is like trolling though and it works both ways. I love visits from Mormons, don't get any though, I invite them in and offer a hot coffee and tell'm we should speak honestly and with honor, then I speak of Joseph Smith and his real life. They leave quickly, the coffee is of course unmade, bullshit runs, but the truth sticks around. It's a mistake to try and convert me, the reverse usually happens, so often remain silent.

Others first is the end of the path, yourself the beginning, the journey is what lies in between, your life. There are many ways up the mountain, find your path, you most of the way there now, for your heart if pure and your passions quiet, it won't take ya long at all. All paths are blocked by hatred, fear and greed, those must be purged from the soul. If you do, all of the above and a whole lot more will be done. I'm certain of that. Your work give you a unique opportunity to not just be happy (you know this) but to have a heart full of joy and happiness. A practice builds wisdom and strength of the heart and soul,emulate Christ, love thy neighbor as you would love yourself, the kingdom of heaven lies with in... To enjoy the view, you must fist climb the mountain, there are many paths up the mountain all are blocked by hate. Compassion comes first.

This is useful for me to use as future notes, if my computer blows up it's on a google sever and it's easy to find to. I get to write to a big smart heart and maybe put the bug in her ear too. Spread good deeds and words, not evil ones.

Hope it was useful and motivational too, edit and forward for counsel if you wish.
John
not reading it, you lost me at the point you think i care about your golems in the ring, and then again when you said the law evolves.
that statement is enough to tell m you dont know the very first thing about the law, precedent, stare decisis, or any of these first day things...

get back to welding retard.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
"not reading it, you lost me at the point you think i care about your golems in the ring, and then again when you said the law evolves.
that statement is enough to tell m you dont know the very first thing about the law, precedent, stare decisis, or any of these first day things...
get back to welding retard."

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bonkers, why did I give ya the nickname?
See what I mean?
Stop using THC and use CBD only. You appear to be displaying the negative symptoms of schizophrenia with disordered thinking. Have a look here and see if anything applies, if you are unhappy, see your doctor, CBD (from pot) is very effective with or even with out the regular meds. No insult, just an observation. Make your own call, after reading and thinking. Ever hear voices? (auditory hallucinations are very common) Please read.
Negative symptoms include blunting of affect, poverty of speech and thought, apathy, anhedonia, reduced social drive, loss of motivation, lack of social interest, and inattention to social or cognitive input.

 

codster25

Well-Known Member
Hate is hate, don’t care if it’s homosexuality or political madness. Sorry but this shit is no better than the garbage I was spewing.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
not reading it, you lost me at the point you think i care about your golems in the ring, and then again when you said the law evolves.
that statement is enough to tell m you dont know the very first thing about the law, precedent, stare decisis, or any of these first day things...

get back to welding retard.

Golem was an old jewish legend, the rabbi (teacher) would put the badge on the monster's chest (to defend his people) and Golem would go to work destroying the antisemites, those who attacked Jews over nothing, but envy of their brains, losers. Nazi's...

Meet the local Golem, a Canadian guy, but I'm sure there are a few Jewish guys here too... Maybe I'm ANTIFA....

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The antifa (/ænˈtiːfə, ˈæntiˌfɑː/) movement is composed of left-wing, autonomous, militant anti-fascist groups and individuals in the United States. The principal feature of antifa groups is their use of direct action, with conflicts occurring both online and in real life.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I'm disappointed you are no
DIY I’m alarmed by the garbage u have been posting. Like it or not people can vote for who they want. Time to for meditation grass hopper.
If yer practicing, and if you are, it's a bit early to judge me. This person is not rational and it's obvious, he can read and make his own calls

Better than most responses he gets?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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yeah he seems to be actually crazy :/
pray he gets the help he needs
You've either got something wrong with your brain and have a mental illness, or you have something wrong with your mind, in which case you are an asshole, you too Cody, deal with it.
Hating others because of who they are, or for any reason for that matter, is bullshit. I do OK loving both you morons!:shock::razz::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

Lord Bonkey

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You've either got something wrong with your brain and have a mental illness, or you have something wrong with your mind, in which case you are an asshole, you too Cody, deal with it.
Hating others because of who they are, or for any reason for that matter, is bullshit. I do OK loving both you morons!:shock::razz::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
you think people suffering from mental illness are automatically assholes?
what the fuck is wrong with you bro...

and the most fucked up part is you are obviously sick and in need of help.

very sad
 

codster25

Well-Known Member
DIY you are sadly mistaken if you think it’s okay to spread hate towards people because of who they vote for. The most ironic part is that people like you think you are being patriotic by Accusing anyone who doesn’t agree with your political beliefs as being a Russian spy/bot/troll/sock or any other fucked up name you guys come up with for people who decide to vote in a way you don’t see fit. Are you guys promoting communism? As an individual with no political interest in America, I must say this so called anti republican “patriotism” sounds more like communism to me. Recognize that you are spreading hate and communism for that matter when you look at the big picture of it all.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
DIY you are sadly mistaken if you think it’s okay to spread hate towards people because of who they vote for. The most ironic part is that people like you think you are being patriotic by Accusing anyone who doesn’t agree with your political beliefs as being a Russian spy/bot/troll/sock or any other fucked up name you guys come up with for people who decide to vote in a way you don’t see fit. Are you guys promoting communism? As an individual with no political interest in America, I must say this so called anti republican “patriotism” sounds more like communism to me. Recognize that you are spreading hate and communism for that matter when you look at the big picture of it all.
If ya support Bonkers ya don't know right from wrong and have no business on this battle ground, stay away from politics. I don't hate you, wise counsel from an elder of yer tribe. My behavior is self consistent.

Trump is going down, the courts are starting to move very fast now, the congress has challenged them and they watch the news too, they are citizens as well.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Thoughts by email while RIU gets a face lift

Evolution of a teaching approach, that experience in this semi social landscape lead to by both conscious and subconscious processes. Another way stop on the path, getting near the end, of the path and of life. This is what I have learned, it severs others purposes and my own, I win any way ya look at it, argue with me, I like a good fight, I teach that way too...

Some stuff from working emails with a couple of friends, while RIU got a face lift and drove the ADMIN mad, trying to get it to run stable and fast, again...

If ya got a heart that is.... and are not afraid to use it.... I teach men, women too, but men are my target, they are most often the problem, when they don't act like one. I remain silent, or treat people according to their behavior, just like everybody else (adults that is).


I'm not a Christian, just act like one is suppose to, sometimes, who is without sin? I'm a piss poor Christian, use pot, hang around with disreputable people, stay among the poor and curse and swear. I'm a bad influence I guess...

Ya don't need to go far to find suffering, sometimes it's just right next door, I'm looking for those who want to be strong enough to do something about it, all others need not apply. I work on the real ground of human suffering , not with some asshole worrying about living forever, egotism, right into the fucking grave! Emptying the self of self means being selfless, putting the other before one's self, to be what nature intended you to be, a happy, joyful, highly social human being. A person purified of hatred, fear & greed, who loves everybody and who is moved only by by the suffering of others and social issues.

One who has a clear mind, undistorted by strong emotions or passions (they are allowed though, under certain conditions), you can fall in love and get married, dumped too! Even do in, and do battle with, psychos and even other hearts. To protect others and the innocent only, and violence, rhetorical, as well as, actual serves this greater purpose. Even up to being a citizen, patriot and severing your country, as a juror & elector, a cop or a judge, a soldier or even a POTUS. It's called duty, honor & integrity, the hallmarks of a good person, friend, citizen and soldier.


It's not about concentration, though try when ya can and hard too, but about connecting to our body's, the seat of emotion and empathy and building out the most plastic parts of our brains, those dealing with social/emotional issues. It's about big hearts, not big heads, and yers is plenty big right now!

If yer a preacher

Pull off the above and I'll show up fur services and take communion at yer parish, you can in theory at least save my soul from eternal damnation by an Omnipotent God. From the biblical descriptions of heaven, it sounds like a divine North Korea, you can at least die in North Korea! If a man can forgive why can't God, or are only sociopaths condemned to another Hell beyond this one, if so why, what is the purpose of this action. I'd rather just be dead and dust, or ashes please, noting special, just one of trillions of mammals who lived, loved, suffered and died, dust in the wind of time. The earth spins on through the vastness of space and time, an insignificant blue jewel in a harsh and unforgiving universe, alone in the cold, we only have this one place, and each other.

Christian belief reconciliation, we live in the remains of it's values system like the victims of an air raid, the dust is settling, as the old buildings tumble down. Modern people need something meaningful, each other and a modern evidence based faith that is compatible to the core message of Jesus's and the the Buddha's. They have the same message as science discovered, to be happy, follow the 11th commandment that Christ gave, "A new commandment I give to you, that you should love one another". I am the light and the way (depending on KVJ or others), the path is also called the way, Buddhism is a 19th western term that Buddhist liked and took for there own, it was traditionally known as the way...

Question: "What did Jesus mean when He said, ‘The kingdom of God is within you’ (Luke 17:21, KJV)?"

John 13:34 A new commandment I give you: Love one ...
https://biblehub.com › john

  1. “Lord,” said Thomas, “we do not know where You are going, so how can we know the way?” 6Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”…
A new commandment I give to you, that you should love one another. ... you, that you love one another, just like I have loved you; that you also love one another. ... You will look for Me, and as I said to the Jews, so now I say to you: 'Where I am going, ... and walk in love, just as Christ loved us and gave Himself up for us as a ...
John 13:34 KJV · ‎John 13:34 NASB · ‎John 13:35 · ‎John 13:33

“The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs. 21Nor will people say, ‘Look, here it is,’ or ‘There it is.’ For you see, the kingdom of God is in your midst.” 22Then He said to the disciples, “The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it.…

We science guys are a cold hearted bunch, devoid of the spirit of God I guess, condemned to burn in the lake of fire fur an eternity, mean stuff indeed, God must be a real prick, if ya believe that shit, cognitive dissidence drives delusion.

Thoughts on religion citizenship etc
DYI (It's my job too)
 
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