During Veg - Am I "shocking" plants going from 16 hrs of light to 24, frequently

Discussion in 'Auto-Flowering Strains' started by TurboTokes, Jun 6, 2018.

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    TurboTokes

    TurboTokes Well-Known Member

    Just a curious question. Growing plants outdoors in promix, 16 hours of sunlight naturally daily, but somedays I was thinking of putting them inside at night or during cold.cloudy days where the veg tent is on 24/7

    Do you think it would stunt the plants sometimes being outside and getting a dark period, while maybe for a weekend being put in the tent on a 24 hours day cycle. Aslong as they are getting 14+ hours of daylight does it really matter and maybe they just keep on trucking in veg and growin as good as the light you feed them?

    These plants are feminized but Id like to do the same thing with autos, daylight all day and "TRY" and move them nightly into a tent and back out to the sun the next morning... may forget or be held out of town somedays though.... not sure how the plants will take it, any experience?

    Cheers
     
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    SwiSHa85

    SwiSHa85 Well-Known Member

    I've tried going back and forth to save some cash on the electricity bill. Plants didn't really like it. I don't know if it's the spectrum changing all the time or what but that grow was runty.
     
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    TurboTokes

    TurboTokes Well-Known Member

    Ya Im hoping to avoid the $100 extra per month it would cost me to run 18 hours on my decent light, when running the same light during the cheap night time rates, it's only $30

    But I know I'll forget to move em a few days
     
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    Keep it on a proper cycle, at least generally around the same gaps; stop messing with the light signature. Pick one.
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    As above use a timer so the plants have the same light cycle in or outdoors.

    :peace:
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    Must be in Ontario eh? My power in Alberta is the same outrageous price no matter what time of day I burn my lights.

    Don't worry. Now that Ford is in charge power should soon be near free out there! :D

    :peace:
     
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    TurboTokes

    TurboTokes Well-Known Member

    Ya onterrible, the 600w light costs me about $100/month if I wanted to run 18 hour veg, but only $30 /month to run in the 12 low cost hours to flower, those peak time hours are killer
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    I've read a bunch about the outrageous pricing schemes going on out there. People up in rural areas getting hit with bills for thousands of dollars just because they are more remote and crap like that.

    We still have the older meters and pay a flat rate of 8.9¢/kwh but with all the added charges for administration, delivery etc it works out to 23.5¢/kwh so we're paying more for the charges than the actual cost of the power.

    If the power companies here decide to build a new high tension line somewhere they tack extra money on your bill to pay for it. What other business can raise it's rates to build new infrastructure that's going to make it more money? Imagine if every time WalMart built a new store they raised their prices to pay for the store. No one would shop there but we're stuck as any of the companies I can buy my power from all charge the same tho bill it differently so the gov't can't get them for price fixing. They are all American owned companies too and treat you like shit.

    :peace:
     
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    Tfunk0704

    Tfunk0704 Active Member

    You’ll probably turn em into hermaphrodites. Even sticking to 20 hrs of light can cause hermaphrodites
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    so even at $2 a gram you only need to grow 100g to cover a 60 day grow.
    Pic your strains to be as short as possible if the startup electricity cost is a lot.

    Even a shit grower should get at least 300 to 400g out of a 600W light.
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    Who the hell told you that? Don't listen to that person anymore because they don't have a clue.
     
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    Tfunk0704

    Tfunk0704 Active Member

    It’s common knowledge 24 hr light plants herm out less
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    Works for 18 hour plants too but I guess but something magical happens if you hold at 20 hours and they all go hermie. rotflmao.gif
     
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    Tfunk0704

    Tfunk0704 Active Member

    Any stress increases chance of hermaphrodite. Again common knowledge...
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    But why would running lights at 20 hours cause them to hermie? I go in and out of my veg room and turn on the ceiling light if it's dark in there. I stress the hell out of my plants all the time. No water, root bound, hack roots off when I repot and basically beat them like a rented mule. Never hermie unless it's been grown from seed for the first run and was a hermie seed.

    Lousy genetics is what causes early hermies and that is common knowledge for people who know.

    Plants that are prone to herm may not if treated with kid gloves from start to finish but I don't want to baby my plants like some nanny. If they hermie they go and I'll grow those that survive and thrive.

    All cannabis plants have the survival trait to produce their own pollen but in plants with healthy genetics that won't happen until very late in flowering after the plant has gone past ripe. Pollen from those flowers is going to give you fem seeds if used too. Early hermied plants produce predominately hermie seed as they carry a buggered geen.

    What you're saying is grower myth and not knowledge, (common or otherwise), at all.
     
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    Tfunk0704

    Tfunk0704 Active Member

    I didn’t say it was a garunteed outcome I said it increases the risk. They don’t like light schedules always changing. PS oldmed I love your freaking Monsanto icon. I hope you don’t mind I stole it for future use lol. I just stop using General hydroponics nutes because of the buy out. I wish more people knew who they are.
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    Future? As in when I croak? ;) Might not be that much longer if I don't quit the cigs. 50 years of those is 50 years to long. Smoking leaf tobacco now that doesn't have all the chemicals and crap that the commercial stuff does. That and the radioactive fertilizer that's been used to grow it since the 30s is where the cancer comes from.

    I thought you meant that growing them under 20 hour light would cause herms. Switching the light schedule around all the time could push a hermie leaning plant over the edge I suppose. I got a bunch of hermie afghani seeds off a guy once and grew out a bunch then bread some together and only kept seeds from those that didn't hermie. I've sent those seeds I made to a half dozen people over the years and not one complaint of hermie plants. Wasn't a good strain for me medically so I stopped growing it but sure grew huge colas. Some people like it tho.

    I try to tell people about GH, Gavita and Botanicare being bought out by Scott's Miracle-Gro thru a deal with Monsanto, now Bayer, and the Nazi connection but most will still shop at Walmart so don't care about stuff like that. I've been using AN nutes for the last 17 years but other than base nutes, which cost the same or less than GH, I just get Big Bud, and love that, and the Rhino Skin for silica as it works well with the pH Perfect tech which for me is a huge time saver not having to check pH. RO water too helps so I never have to worry about the crap in my water causing problems.

    All Trump has to do is shut down all the Walmarts and he'll fix the trade deficit he erroneously believes exists without outraging the rest of the G8 countries they trade with. Almost everything is made in China these days. He could declare that the fed will only buy from companies that manufacture their products in the states and they'd come running back in droves. The rich get richer no matter how the cards are played tho and always have. :(

    Watch the Korea talks go all to shit next week. Should be a huge laugh if it doesn't lead to WWIII. :D

    :peace:
     
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    Tfunk0704

    Tfunk0704 Active Member

    Ya it def sucks cause I really do like their hydro nute line, flora bloom and all that. I’m finishing curren grow with what I got but after I’m done with them. It’s a really evil Monsanto is as evil as a company can be. Plus they play all sides on the war on drugs. Fucking scum.
     
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    bankheadstoner

    bankheadstoner Active Member

    I think I'm going with Humboldt secret nutrients my next run .using their base A and B along with golden tree and flower stacker and just use a few of fox farm additives I like . Their kangaroots and boomerang bomb. But have you considered using a green house . Small scale green house pretty cheap it's basically a plastic house and just add a light for supplemental light . But if plants showing preflowers it's a chance to get a hermie when switch to flower but if you don't have pre-flowers you good but def figure out a solution and stick to it
     
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    Tfunk0704

    Tfunk0704 Active Member

    Thanks for reminding me. I never checked to see if my electric cost me more at peak hours. Thank you thank you
     

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