Droopy leafs / different shades of green! PICS!

Hi all ive taken my 2nd light out but the temps droped too 77

also ive added some new pics, the stems to my big leafs are realy red imo, also the bigger leafs seem a darker green

Weliveinapolicestate said:

Well your right we're not here to talk about grammar, we're here to give the op good advise to save his crop and point them in the right direction. But if your opinion is math based then do the math with me, better cooling solutions cost money, extra hydro use (.6kwh) costs money, wasted nutes, ph up/down, ph testing, wasting time watering too often in you opinion but not often enough in the plants opinion (Wilting)... time you could be using to make money or upgrading your cooling setup. You haven't said anything about the plants looking like 2-3 week old seedlings under way too much light and high heat. But your option works if you don't care about production costs, you know that math thing. 600 is more then 1200 but MY opinion is use 600w compress the pots and have the time to get the setup tweaked and run full 1200 when the plants need more space and then your not wasting light keeping dark corners lite to drive away spooky monsters and driving up heat and costs. But the choice is yours op hope you get it sorted. Aquasorb or maybe some top dressing to keep the water in the pot or both will help keep them wet. Are you top feeding or bottom ? With the higher room temps are you watering with colder water ? What's the humidity @ 90-92f ?

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Doing Things the right way...COST FUCKING MONEY!!
If you're in this for cheap weed..... go throw some seeds outside.
Indoor is an expensive hobby!

Yes, you can accomplish all of the above by turning off a $300+ light...however, this ignores the obvious lack of exhaust.
Which will be a problem with even one light eventually.
If it were ME..I would invest the money to make ALL of my equipment work for me...not just some of it.

See WeliveinaPARANOIDstate....with those 'production costs' you have to figure in the $300+ for the unused paper weight..(i mean light) that he isnt using....
Yes he will save money and his setup will survive on one light...BUT
why not set the room up correctly so you can use both lights? thats all I'm saying

I tried for years to cut corners only to find out that each small step in this process is crucial and you may be able to slide on things like evac and nutes for a while...
but that shit catches up with you!!

I could care less what this guy does with his lights.
Just PLEASE properly evac your heat so it doesn't come back to bite you later....
and magically..once the exhaust is setup.... the second light wont raise the temp a bit...TAAA DAA!!!

take it or leave it...I dont care... not my plants.

happy growing.

Bumpuptothetop

Bunp help please red stems nd realy dark leafs

red stems come from micro-nutrient deficiencies... like phosphorous

do you have any exhaust in your setup? air exchange is important!

really dark leaves can point towards N toxicity.

.............could be lots of things

have you lowered your temp in your room at all?

use fresh water or ph balanced water for 1-2 weeks then go light when adding back nutrients to your water...always remember when it comes to nutes and weed, less is more.

SeeRockCity Your right he'll have to evac that hot air and now that the temps down (from removing a lamp... taa daa) and he's not stressing the shit out the plants so he can work towards that. And since your the magicman of dope grows maybe you could ask questions about the setup (charcoal filter? you pushing or pull air through) and space (rented, owned, apartment, free standing house or semi, your wife gonna bed mad if she see's venting hanging in the hall? whatever?) and give advice that can help, since you are the man of marijuana what's the best way to vent? Tell him about your setup and how you deal with heat and stink and if you vent the treated air outside or not do you recirc (hookup to cold air return, and run the fan on your furnace 24/7). Yes, he'll want more light at some point and by hopefully he can evac/exhaust hot air. You angry Bro ? When I have multiple signs of def and over fert I flush (plain ph'd water) and ph test the water coming from the pots to see if that's the case or not. Stevie's method works too and like he said easy on the nutes small plants i use 1/4 to 1/2 strength sometimes none at all.

bluez1 said:

Ive only just started to do the ph a week into the crop. When i changed the leafs are getting abit greener ? I changed the ph from the color green to orange ish? About 6?.... The rooms in the house inbetween two bedrooms. Ive got a good fan thats on full. Im gna take a light out see how that goes also how do i add co2 ? From canisters? All help is realy appreciated and im sorry for lack of knowledge but guess we all hve to start some were

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you definitly want to get ur ph right!!! if u can go to the hydro store and get a digtal ph meter..like 30 bucks for a good cheap one.. if your ph is off your plants wont get the nuits that they need.. you will see this get worse as time goes by and the "buffer" in your soil wares off.. also what is your night time temps?? if your room goes from90 to 65 at night this will through the ph of the plants off too...i would try and get those temps down a bit..the dry soil is telling u its too dry and hot in there..good luck...

NO I don't know about a new thread. And when someone says unplug a lamp you shouldn't take that as don't vent you don't need it you're good now. It's the quick way to drop the heat takes oh maybe 30 seconds to unplug a lamp (includes walking time). Now would venting take more than 30 seconds hmmmm. Maybe, but only if you take the time to open the window.... before tossing a 10 inch round silver horsecock out it, just waving in the wind to everyone on your street. Telling someone venting is the key (although right) you should give more advice like maybe directing them to a good thread on the topic. It takes a little more knowledge,skills,time,and money to vent then unplugging a lamp you don't need to control the heat right. 1200 better then 600! thanks caveman, well not really. The lamps footprints would have to overlap to really increase your lumens per square foot. I can't see the benefit for plants; that in their current state wouldn't use up the total area of one lamp. Plus he said the room was 90-92 degrees and now 77 that's an improvement right. You harbour a lot of anger towards me and that's funny to me because you call me an idiot. I can't tell if you're just a little rage filled man or a jerk or a juice head that grows only for profit, and is not a hobbyist but someone whom uses the skills and knowledge of indoor hobby farmers for his own ends not giving back in any way shape or form (much like you have this whole discussion) to the community. And indoor gardening is an expensive hobby but when it's strictly for profit that's when it stops being a hobby and becomes a business. You don't need the most expensive setup in the world to grow pot but you do if you want to make money at it. Oh one last thing the pictures of the plants show they need water the soil is very dry and looks like a ph problem.

I contribute something in each post it seems but not this one. I'm bitching about you? Plus I helped all I can with my suggestion, I can't build his exhaust and intake systems for him i don't know the guy. You suggested venting and stopped short of answering his questions or any questions for that matter. But you keep harping on me about my advice. If his plants die he can start some more it will give him time to figure out his setup, he may have jumped the gun on this one. Peace

stopped short? psht... if you had found the new thread...you would see that the advice (good or bad) is still coming... and was requested by the poster!

ps..I'm sorry that capitalized words and cursing scare you so much.... go hug mommy now

Enough Guys.

Yeah Sunni I think your right. This guy has nothing to say anyways.

All helps appreciated off everyone tbh i dont even read who writes it i just take the advice on board. Ive got my temp down. Ive took my exttractor fan and placed it so its suckin from right near my light. Its just my plants now seem dry and r curlin round the edges im gnan check my rh today

bluez1 said:

All helps appreciated off everyone tbh i dont even read who writes it i just take the advice on board. Ive got my temp down. Ive took my exttractor fan and placed it so its suckin from right near my light. Its just my plants now seem dry and r curlin round the edges im gnan check my rh today

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What did you get your temp down to?

you should check ALL of the following: RH, PH, and PPM

RH should be easy to fix with a humidifier if it's low.
proper PH will certainly need to be maintained to get your ladies to completion. - you can get Ph litmus tests to test your feeding and runoff water.
and you have to pay attention to your soil PPM as it raises incrementally during the grow and then drops a bit close to harvest.

...I'd imagine your plants are ready for a feeding schedule too...they wont grow like they are suppose to without the proper food.

If all your temps are stable those are the next things to check on.....

you said that you take advice regardless of who gives it...not the best idea.
I can give you my opinion on things but it's best if you research before you act.
You may end up following wrong advice somewhere along the way that kills all your plants.
No one wants to see that happen.

is your light schedule consistent? 18/6 or 20/4 so?

side note: my light schedule dawn is at 8pm.. this gives me the cool night air to help out my temps when my lights are on..
pain in the ass if you want to move one outside though.