Drip hydro nutrient vs Athena vs Jack

k0rps

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Solution grade gypsum has worked great for me with jacks.. intention was to reduce N while keeping calcium levels up, bonus added sulfur! Very affordable from ur local garden shop.
 

kratosxxl

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Solution grade gypsum has worked great for me with jacks.. intention was to reduce N while keeping calcium levels up, bonus added sulfur! Very affordable from ur local garden shop.
At what rate ? 1gr per gall ? But now we are back to the same point as with gh trio or any liquid fert , instead of multiple bottles multiple salts , main reason i switched to jacks was simplicity 321 :) well thats not true anymore. Again you dont have too one can just go all the way to the end with 321 but not sure if u will get everything out of grow room (quantity , quality )
 

k0rps

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At what rate ? 1gr per gall ? But now we are back to the same point as with gh trio or any liquid fert , instead of multiple bottles multiple salts , main reason i switched to jacks was simplicity 321 :) well thats not true anymore. Again you dont have too one can just go all the way to the end with 321 but not sure if u will get everything out of grow room (quantity , quality )
Depending on which week in the bloom cycle added:
2.5-2.8g jacks hydro 5-12-26
1.6-2g cal nit
0.5-1g cal sulf
0.5-1g mg sulf
(Added 0.5-1g mpk during swell)

If you haven't already, check out an elemental ppm calculator. There's a pretty good excel spreadsheet floating around this site from a few years ago. Really helps to get things dialed in.
 

kratosxxl

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Athena costs like 8 cents a gallon to make.
So i dont know ca if i mentioned but cost is not the problem for me. Im not a commercial grower and i dont have 100 lights. So even if it cost a bit more but gives better quality and weight im all in. Jack is amazing but u wont get the weight and quality compared to liquid ferts and not because they are liquid its because their line uses humic/fulvic acids , emzymes , tricanatroll etc.
 

Drop That Sound

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I would ask around and get some samples of the drip line, or whatever else you want to try out..

Then, make sure to do a 3 way side by side battle, and let us know what works best!
 

newbplantgrower420

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Kratos back from the dead?

I use Jacks 321. Tried Athena for 2 runs. I dont like how it their A clumps up....turns into a rock and its 3x the price in this tough market.

I cant remember if Jacks v Athena gives better quality. Jacks is just cheaper and more convenient to use for me. Gives me better yield too.

Masterblend also came out with a 0-12-24 bag so you can control the N. Someone should look into that and try it out.
 

waterproof808

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Kratos back from the dead?

I use Jacks 321. Tried Athena for 2 runs. I dont like how it their A clumps up....turns into a rock and its 3x the price in this tough market.

I cant remember if Jacks v Athena gives better quality. Jacks is just cheaper and more convenient to use for me. Gives me better yield too.

Masterblend also came out with a 0-12-24 bag so you can control the N. Someone should look into that and try it out.
Athena pro is meant to be mixed into a stock solution so you don’t have to worry about it clumping up. I do agree that it is way too expensive, I also don’t like that I have to adjust the ph with Athena and I never had to with jacks because it would be 6.1ph for me if I mixed it to 1.6ec.
 

Nizza

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I mix my jacks up by EC, after making into one gallon super concentrated stock solutions. I don't weigh it at all anymore, or mess with the powders but once a year maybe, being a hobby grower.

It's super easy to mix that way for me. After you get an idea of the ratios you need, you know exactly how much volume of each stock part to add, and is just as easy ass using any other bottle of nutes IMO.
I really like this... I have mega crop A and B, You're saying just figure out the ratio of PPM of stocks A-B-C and then go from there? So I can go as far as making the concentrated solutions different strengths to achieve a 50-50 blend into my res at whatever PPM I want? Is it really that simple? I've been using GH trio now in my DTW coco because it is so easy and stable, but It would be nice to use some of the megacrop I have sitting around, it would be easier if it was a liquid
 

kratosxxl

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So folks i end up buying masterblend 0-12-24,i use it with jack cal nit , i like it but it clumps up like there is no tomorrow , it does throw ec off a bit but works. I pushed it to 3 ec with 0 issues (280 ppm is my water , total is 1600 ppm ) all nice and healthy.
 
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