Doob's and Mindmelted's Growinpalooza!!

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
jessu mind. i still can't get over the size of your monster.. soooo nice... it's nice to see that you got the house ready for the plants, and not for yourself.. that is a man after my own heart, lol...
and thanks for the pix of the roots doob's, it did help with your explanation.. i've got a quick question for you doob's.. you had said that you are using the t5's for veg.. do you use them alway the way up to flowering, then put the girls under the 250 hps, or only up to a certain size then do the switch? i am only asking as i was trying something new this grow for myself and have my seedlings under a 25 watt cfl.. i was just wondering how long it would be cool to keep them under this untill it was no longer beneficial for them and they would be able to use the extra lum's that the 250 would provide?
 

Mindmelted

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Thanks racer....
I started mine out under 6 cfls until a week before flowering.
The week before flowering i used a 250 watt MH
 

Doobieus

Well-Known Member
Got half of it cleaned up and painted.
Will putting carpet and a kitchenette in for my bro.Then i will start on the other side for me and ??????
Slow and long clean up deal.
For you and ?????? lol good times.

That's cool you're doing this for your bro and stuff. He should help you with it, if he isn't already.

jessu mind. i still can't get over the size of your monster.. soooo nice... it's nice to see that you got the house ready for the plants, and not for yourself.. that is a man after my own heart, lol...
and thanks for the pix of the roots doob's, it did help with your explanation.. i've got a quick question for you doob's.. you had said that you are using the t5's for veg.. do you use them alway the way up to flowering, then put the girls under the 250 hps, or only up to a certain size then do the switch? i am only asking as i was trying something new this grow for myself and have my seedlings under a 25 watt cfl.. i was just wondering how long it would be cool to keep them under this untill it was no longer beneficial for them and they would be able to use the extra lum's that the 250 would provide?
Hey Racer I like to keep my babies under 2 26w CFL's while germing, then they get switched to a T5, I leave them under the T5 until they show signs of sex and then clone/bloom usually.

As far as your question.... it's not so much the wattage of the bulb you should be concerned with. It's the lumen output of the bulb. In nature the sun produces around 10k of lumens per sq ft if I remember correctly. So you would want to somewhat mimic that, I did it with 8 26w CFL's. Now mind you that was 8 CFL's for 2 plants in Veg.

Now with that stated, I switched to T5 and haven't really looked back. Temps are easier to manage, you get more for your money and they just work better than CFL's personally. I have all those babies under a 110 watt T5, with 5 CFL's you're already pushing 125w and you would still need more. More watts ='s more money, see where I'm going with this?

If you have to go with CFL's I'd say keep around 8 to 10 25-26w CFL's on that baby.

I don't even germinate with just 1 CFL, so if you want to keep her under CFL's buy a power strip, Y adapters, outlet to light adapters and put them on there. I'll see if I can find my old CFL setup and I'll take pics if I do find it, to help clarify a bit.

Hope this helps
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
thanks doobieous.. its not that i need to go with the cfl's, was just trying something new this grow as it seemed like the last grow under the hps i kept killing alot of seedlings once they got like two or three sets of true leaves..i am not sure if they were getting to dry or what the problem was, but it seemed like after i got them germed and growing, i must have killed off atleast like ten or so lil babies, so i had thought that the cfl's may help some with the heat and therefore the drying out of the seedlings? you think i would just be better off throwing them back under the 25ohps for now? if so, what kind of distance is recomended for small seedlings? maybe i just had them too close to the lamp which contributed to them all dying at such a young age? thanks for any and all suggestions.
 

Doobieus

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thanks doobieous.. its not that i need to go with the cfl's, was just trying something new this grow as it seemed like the last grow under the hps i kept killing alot of seedlings once they got like two or three sets of true leaves..i am not sure if they were getting to dry or what the problem was, but it seemed like after i got them germed and growing, i must have killed off atleast like ten or so lil babies, so i had thought that the cfl's may help some with the heat and therefore the drying out of the seedlings? you think i would just be better off throwing them back under the 25ohps for now? if so, what kind of distance is recomended for small seedlings? maybe i just had them too close to the lamp which contributed to them all dying at such a young age? thanks for any and all suggestions.
Get a T5 if you can, it'll make life a hell of a lot easier HTG has a nice small one for a reasonable price. Might want to get a thermometer/hygrometer as well, it'll help you monitor your temps and humidity.

If anything buy the thermometer/hygrometer this way you can screw around with the height/temp/humidity to get it to where it needs to be.

For seedlings I'd say 4-6 inches, watch out for some stretching though.

If you're having issues with humidity being too low, you're gonna want to put some water in jugs in the room/cab or buy a small cheap humidifier. If the temps are too high, you're going to want to look at your ventilation.

Hope this helps.
 

Doobieus

Well-Known Member
Update and pics are going to have to wait awhile guys, my broke ass can't afford batteries at the moment, sorry lol.
 

Skryptz

Active Member
nice plants guy an gal! lol gotcha that time, melted thats a healthy ass lookin plant right there, an doob them girls are gorgeous :D , dont look like you need it, but g'luck wit the rest :D will subscribe to this
 

Doobieus

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I know the felling and it SUCKS :evil:

I have not had any smoke for 4 days now :evil:
You're telling me, I've had friends give me roaches and stuff for the past week or so, I may even have to junk this grow :cry: and find a new place to live. It's pretty bad right now :neutral:, with the accident and the garnishment.

They took 500 this time, left us with nothing to live on basically, not even enough to pay our full rent. I thought there was a law against that, greedy bastards :cuss:.

nice plants guy an gal! lol gotcha that time, melted thats a healthy ass lookin plant right there, an doob them girls are gorgeous :D , dont look like you need it, but g'luck wit the rest :D will subscribe to this
Thanks Skryptz I appreciate it, and yeah lol you got me this time :eyesmoke:.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
damn doob's.. i thought that there was some kinda law against that too.. or atleast there should be.. that totally sucks. glad to hear im not the only broke ass out here though, lol... my trip to europe and a recent stoopid ass run in with johnnylaw has me picking up pennies on the street, totaly sucks ass.. the only good thing about times like now is knowing that the only way to go is up... hope you don't have to throw in the towell on this grow as that would just totally suck.. hope it gets better for you soon doobieous..
 

Doobieus

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damn doob's.. i thought that there was some kinda law against that too.. or atleast there should be.. that totally sucks. glad to hear im not the only broke ass out here though, lol... my trip to europe and a recent stoopid ass run in with johnnylaw has me picking up pennies on the street, totaly sucks ass.. the only good thing about times like now is knowing that the only way to go is up... hope you don't have to throw in the towell on this grow as that would just totally suck.. hope it gets better for you soon doobieous..
I'm pretty sure it is against the law, but I don't know how we would address that without a lawyer which we can't afford at the moment, fucking sucks so so soooo bad.

I hope I don't either, worst case scenario I'd probably give them to my friend to finish up, don't know quite yet. Not sure I'll even be in the same state in about a month or so, might be here, might be in the southeast. We shall see....
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
just wanted to say thanks for the link doobieous, i just went ahead and ordered the sylverstar t5 set-up from htg.. i got the two footer with the grow bulbs, but also ordered an extra set of the bloom bulbs as well.. i figured what the hell, only go around this crazy planet once, have some fun, lol.. i really do hope to find alot of pennies tomorow to pay for all of this. o well.. thanks again though
 

Doobieus

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just wanted to say thanks for the link doobieous, i just went ahead and ordered the sylverstar t5 set-up from htg.. i got the two footer with the grow bulbs, but also ordered an extra set of the bloom bulbs as well.. i figured what the hell, only go around this crazy planet once, have some fun, lol.. i really do hope to find alot of pennies tomorow to pay for all of this. o well.. thanks again though
Good deal Racer, I think you'll be much more satisfied with the T5 setup. Yeah I hear you dude, pennies and shit, where the hell's publisher's clearing house when we need it? Lol if only lol.
 

Mindmelted

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I'm pretty sure it is against the law, but I don't know how we would address that without a lawyer which we can't afford at the moment, fucking sucks so so soooo bad.

I hope I don't either, worst case scenario I'd probably give them to my friend to finish up, don't know quite yet. Not sure I'll even be in the same state in about a month or so, might be here, might be in the southeast. We shall see....
Should come live with me...:mrgreen:
 
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