churchhaze
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That's not how our economy works. You're simply uninformed. The majority of undocumented immigrants are hard workers looking for opportunity, not food stamps.
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OddBall1st
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The first free thing these illegal immigrants get is entry while other law abiders pay for it.
churchhaze
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Want a tissue?
OddBall1st
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That may be true but they get those food stamps and health care. You want to tell me the difference between a legal immigrant and an un-documented one ?
OddBall1st
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Yes, to wipe that stink off, you just got your ass handed to ya,
churchhaze
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A piece of paper.
churchhaze
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Why not deport all people in the US on food stamps, including citizens? Be consistent, you know? Why stop at undocumented immigrants?
churchhaze
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Let's also deport everyone collecting social security benefits. Deport all the cranky old white racists collecting SS and not contributing a thing to our economy.
ghost013
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Wow, I'm greatful enough people are starting to open their eyes to the real and seriouse consequences of our lack of border security and immigration law enforcement. As stated in just a few of my examples we have real challenges directly impacting our families and communities. Thankfully you can now see America waking up a bit. Hopefully you will wake up sometime soon as well.
OddBall1st
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Because citizens paid into a system they can use,...Guess who didn`t ? I don`t stop at undocumented like you do, I call them what they are, illegal and criminal, ...job seeking or not....
OddBall1st
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Again, you pay into Social Security, and again, Guess who didn`t ? So where you from ? This is pretty easy stuff you don`t seem to know.
churchhaze
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It takes 15 years to become a citizen, if you're lucky. You don't understand how hard uscis is to work with, even for fluent English speakers who were born in the US, and lived every day of their lives here, even if they've already become naturalized citizens. You're ignorant and mean spirited and serving no purpose but embarrassing us as a country. You have no clue what it's like dealing with uscis. You've never experienced it, and you never will, otherwise you'd likely realize why people come here illegally instead of legally.
churchhaze
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If you want to look at an example of a country that's had an open border policy since WW2, look at Germany. Even before the EU was formed, they never required a visa or passport to get in. They had true open borders, and still do. Germany is one of the most vibrant and healthy economies in the EU.
OddBall1st
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Any way you look at it, it`s called cheating the legal guy out of it so you can prosper. You`re right, I never feared my Government enough to leave and prolly never will. So what happened to your bravery ? How do you embarrass someone running away from home and helping themselves to yours ?
And, you`re right again, the whole world is stupid and don`t understand,...only the runaways do or can,......
ghost013
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Ok so instead of being able to have a real discussion you choose to divert to outlandish comments.
Face the facts for what they are and come up with realistic solutions.
OddBall1st
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So the Berlin Wall Regan and Gorby had taken down,...was a myth ? Germany would collapse if 20 million entered it last year.
churchhaze
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The fact is that you're a burden and the immigrants coming over are assets, otherwise you wouldn't be so scared of them taking your job.
You know that's the truth.
churchhaze
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Republicans with extreme views on immigration should keep in mind that they're turning away a lot of people who might otherwise lean fiscally conservative, but will not bend on such extreme attacks on immigration. I will definitely vote democrat this cycle, for president and for all open seats as I consider this a more important issue than any fiscal issues.
ghost013
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You picked a very poor example. Study up on what your talking about before you speak. There is a real reason they have had such a loose immigration system for some, yes I said some. What did Germany do that they have been making up for ever since? Also the have had many issues with what its costing them and they very well may make changes. Again study up, not just history but current info as well.
OddBall1st
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They`re cowards that didn`t stand up for themselves and their country,...Then they become votes or a reason to vote,...I`m not worried about them taking my job at Dunkin Doughnuts because I don`t work there,...our high school kids used to take up those careers.
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