does diatomaceous earth mess with a potted plant's pH???

LTC.RJW

Member
so i have read that diatomaceous earth or DE is able to kill bugs that commonly infest plants, i have had problems with fungus flies and tried just about every method of dealing with these pesky bastards. Now my question is does this organic pesticide mess with my potted plants pH? :fire:
 

monkeybones

Well-Known Member
I don't know, but you can put the dust of diatom around the edges of the grow area's floor to try and get them. I did this to mess up the other bugs I had coming in. For fungus gnats the only effective method I found was to put a sticky trap on a stick in the soil. Like a little standing flag. Sticky traps obliterate fungus gnats by the hundreds if well placed.
 

mamador1r

Active Member
no definite answer yet? this question made me think about it but i dont know for myself if it changes the ph. as already mentioned & i apply the de around the base of the plants & surrounding area to keep pest away & do not apply any into the soil.
 

KlosetKing

Well-Known Member
i used DE to treat an aphid issue i had with my first grow. It worked GREAT. i noticed no change in my pH, and 2 treatments to the topsoil cured the infestation 100%. I speak highly of it =D
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
DE is mostly calcium on the elemental level. It shouldn't have a large affect on pH, but if you use too much it can clog up your dirt. Use a sifter to apply a thin layer when your top is dry. Remember, DE has to be dry to work properly.
 

Nullis

Moderator
I've found out recently that any sort of basting or make-up brush works well for applying DE. You dust it around: on the inner/outer rims of your planting containers, in the carpets or on the floor, in crevices such as in and around the baseboards, windows and window sills, etc.

Matt is correct in that too much will lead to messy top soil, and hinder air exchange. You really don't want to cake it on, or get it wet; it is a pain in the ass in my experience, so I don't bother with it on my soil anymore but I'll try to put it anywhere else I can. The gnats will fly around and land on the floor and hide in crevices. If the area has a dusting of DE then odds are the adults will come in contact with it, and they should die within a day or two.
The gnats will lay eggs via whichever entry points they stumble upon, including the drainage holes if they have access so I would dust around there and the floors and try to get the adults on top of the soil with sticky traps, pyrethrum or another spray on insecticide and then the eggs and larvae with BTi and/or an insecticidal drench.

DE is primarily silicon dioxide (85%) with other elemental oxides (aluminum, iron, calcium, magnesium). It could potentially be used to raise soil pH if it was part of the mix, but I would agree with Matt in that the amounts used for your purposes would have next to no influence on in.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
I've found out recently that any sort of basting or make-up brush works well for applying DE. You dust it around: on the inner/outer rims of your planting containers, in the carpets or on the floor, in crevices such as in and around the baseboards, windows and window sills, etc.

Matt is correct in that too much will lead to messy top soil, and hinder air exchange. You really don't want to cake it on, or get it wet; it is a pain in the ass in my experience, so I don't bother with it on my soil anymore but I'll try to put it anywhere else I can. The gnats will fly around and land on the floor and hide in crevices. If the area has a dusting of DE then odds are the adults will come in contact with it, and they should die within a day or two.
The gnats will lay eggs via whichever entry points they stumble upon, including the drainage holes if they have access so I would dust around there and the floors and try to get the adults on top of the soil with sticky traps, pyrethrum or another spray on insecticide and then the eggs and larvae with BTi and/or an insecticidal drench.

DE is primarily silicon dioxide (85%) with other elemental oxides (aluminum, iron, calcium, magnesium). It could potentially be used to raise soil pH if it was part of the mix, but I would agree with Matt in that the amounts used for your purposes would have next to no influence on in.
Nullis brings up a really good point. The other points of access to your soil. I drilled a hundred holes in each of my 5 gallon pots, all over the sides and bottom. The gnats use these holes, once I've dusted the top with DE, to get in/out of the soil. Mosquito dunks for the long term puddles, and liquid BTi (actually very inexpensive and lasts a long time) for watering in with nutes. And some sticky cards will tell you if you have gnats. Lay them right around the pots, they can get wet and still work.

Silicon dioxide: thank for the correction, I was thinking of coral.
 
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