Does dabbing conserve bud IYO? Or do you dab right through it?

midnitetoak

midnitetoak

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Started dabbing about a month ago & it is now my preferred method of medicating. IMO it is faster, more efficient, and doesn't stink up the house as much as conventional pot smoke. The ol lady on the other hand is unimpressed. She says dabs don't last as long as smoking and using the torch makes her feel like a crackhead ...sheesh! I disagree but need to accommodate her wishes in order to maintain our happy marriage...at least until I turn her into an oil freak like me.

Anyway my original interest in concentrates was spurred by the desire to find a way to conserve enough bud to last until the next harvest. I only grow for my ol lady, myself, and to share with select friends/family so I tend to do everything on a small scale. I finally got some good material and started making bubble hash which blew my mind. For years up until that point I had been puffing on lo grade commercial shitbud and quickly got spoiled on Dutch genetics. Some of the more enlightened members of RIU motivated me to try making qwiso and was off to the races. I am interested in trying BHO at some point when I aquire suitable space, safety equipment..and more material to run which brings me to my question(s)..

Dabbing takes some practice trial & error as does playing around with methods of making honey oil/shatter. I wasted much oil in the beginning but now realize ways to make it stretch. Seems like sometimes I dab right through it so fast I'm always making more. So far I have liquified over 2oz of premium bud into oil. I am trying to make my remaining stash (maybe another 2oz & 3/4) last until flower stage of current grow is complete (60 dayz or so). The question I pose to experienced oil enthusiasts and RIU contributors is:
Do you think you consume more or less quantity of cannabis by dabbing it? If you had to make 2 oz of bud last you 10 weeks would you make some or all into oil or would you leave it as bud & tough it out after you ran out of dabs?
 
Kase

Kase

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That's a tough one. Depends on method of smoking and size of dabs. If it were me I would grind up the bud and make oil to get the best yield possible, but I'm an oil freak as well and don't smoke flowers hardly at all. But with the woman involved I would do partial, happy wife, happy life :)
 
qwizoking

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I burn through oil....when I'm conserving its all bud for me...
This is how I do....
Those that know me, know i stay high, some say I have a problem...when I smoke I don't stop smoking till I'm as high as that bud or oil will allow before receptors down or cbd kicks in...so when smoking oil I inherently waste a lot as it gets me quite a bit higher and I grow plants with no ceiling to begin with
I easily go through a qp of bud a week(including my wife)...I go through the same amount of bud converted to oil in half that time...

I've found though that smaller hits helps a lot...and I think if you only took one dab or so you could conserve using oil...
 
midnitetoak

midnitetoak

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I tend to do smaller dabs with more frequency, but sometimes you just gotta put the hammer down on a fat one to get things going. I will have to leave the wife some bud to smoke on but I'm thinking I'll probably try to get by doing small qwiso runs like I have been. What I'm asking I guess is there a much better yield and/or quality from BHO as opposed to qwiso? Wondering if butane extraction w/ vac purge would help stretch it out or if the extra expense & effort would be better served waiting for next harvest to get started experimenting with.
 
qwizoking

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Butane definitely yields more..can get a better quality from qwiso...bho-20% run is good...qwiso-10-12% is what I get

(Can get a better quality higher yield off a non polar soak ie butane. To get quality qwiso it must be qw lol and not as much yield comes with that...)
 
midnitetoak

midnitetoak

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qwizoking said:
I burn through oil....when I'm conserving its all bud for me...
This is how I do....
Those that know me, know i stay high, some say I have a problem...when I smoke I don't stop smoking till I'm as high as that bud or oil will allow before receptors down or cbd kicks in...so when smoking oil I inherently waste a lot as it gets me quite a bit higher and I grow plants with no ceiling to begin with
I easily go through a qp of bud a week(including my wife)...I go through the same amount of bud converted to oil in half that time...

I've found though that smaller hits helps a lot...and I think if you only took one dab or so you could conserve using oil...
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Whoa I can see myself going through a qp a week too if I just dabbed away with total disregard for supply... I know I dab more than my ol lady smokes on any given day but that doesn't help my original argument about how dabs were supposed to help conserve our stash. I do get "higher" than she does though my tolerance is likely higher as well.(sigh) Hope to get to the point where I'm growing with no ceiling too....one day soon
 
midnitetoak

midnitetoak

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qwizoking said:
Butane definitely yields more..can get a better quality from qwiso...bho-20% run is good...qwiso-10-12% is what I get

(Can get a better quality higher yield off a non polar soak ie butane. To get wmquality qwiso it must be qw lol and not as much yield comes with that...)
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Yeah 10% qwiso yield is about right. Hmm maybe a 10g BHO run would get me through the next few weeks...that'll yield a possible 2g oil & still have plenty of bud to keep the wife tokin away thanks qwiz
 
PJ Diaz

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qwizoking said:
I burn through oil....when I'm conserving its all bud for me...
This is how I do....
Those that know me, know i stay high, some say I have a problem...when I smoke I don't stop smoking till I'm as high as that bud or oil will allow before receptors down or cbd kicks in...so when smoking oil I inherently waste a lot as it gets me quite a bit higher and I grow plants with no ceiling to begin with
I easily go through a qp of bud a week(including my wife)...I go through the same amount of bud converted to oil in half that time...

I've found though that smaller hits helps a lot...and I think if you only took one dab or so you could conserve using oil...
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You smoke over a half oz a day between you and the lady? Or you smoke 4 g's of oil a day? That's crazy dude, and a complete waste IMO. If you didn't smoke so much you wouldn't need to smoke so much to get hi. Tolerance build up is a real thing.
 
qwizoking

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Yea something like that..and probly 4gs of oil maybe more like 3 but not together haha...yea it is a waste but I prefer to just stay high as possible all day everyday...yea say what you want about that........but I did go on a little tolerance break not to long ago, got super high and it was great..week long break...got the highest id been in a while..but the week was no fun, nit that I'm addicted


But my point is, when smoking oil I go through twice as much as the equivalent in bud
 
midnitetoak

midnitetoak

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My tolerance has increased due to dabs no doubt but I get way more baked than smoking herb. The wife is learning to dab now but she is still partial to the bong. I know it's only a matter of time before oil becomes our primary means of gettin lifted. I was hoping somebody would say that oil lasts longer than bud but the opposite appears to be true...go figure! the most effective strategy for the conservation of cannabis is abstinence; works to lower your tolerance too! I decided to compromise and only liquefy less than half of our remaining stash into oil but I think I will try a small 10g BHO run next.
 
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Midnite, don't know if you've read many of my posts, but I'm a newbie hash-maker. My 1st batch was made from really old & dry leaf which yielded about 3-4grams of oil from 40gs, if memory serves. It was described as "too strong" by a friend [nonsense haha]. Idk how much stronger oil from A1 bud is compared to oil from leaf & crap but mine sure wipes me out [bit of a light-weight atm.] I sleep the sleep of the dead after a puff :)

When I start to use my small bud to spray, I'll definitely be running it no more than 50/50 with trim & leaf. I'm so glad my 1st run was with old leaf, it was just an experiment & was delighted to find the hash recovered was quite acceptable. Nothing from my grow will be wasted. So don't chuck out your leaf & trim, mix it with your bud to pass butane through & your oil wont be as expensive. I don't know how many of the really good hash makers here who include leaf & trim with their bud. I haven't gone past the heat purge stage so Idk if leaf affects consistency of the oil or not in the end product. [if your dabbing I don't think consistency would matter, would it?]

I've been asking similar questions. Tolerance is a bitch & abstinence is the only cure. I love bud & I love hash. I'd hate to get to the point where a cone of good bud doesn't do it for me, or a nice jay for that matter.
I use pot for nerve pain & to sleep. [What I didn't realise for most of the 12 years I've endured pain, is that a small puff everyday cuts the intensity & frequency of my pain by at least 80%. Nice :)]
For me hash is special. It's like a secret pleasure like vintage French champagne or truffles. If you had both at every meal it'd become so familiar it'd no longer be special. AND my medical consideration must take precedence over my enjoyment. If my bud is my paracetamol, for example, then hash is my codeine [more like opium hahaha] to be used as a last line of defense.

Excellent bud [that I grew off course, haha] is my everyday smoke, & hash is my every other night smoke or when I need it.
 
Dannoo93

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midnitetoak said:
Started dabbing about a month ago & it is now my preferred method of medicating. IMO it is faster, more efficient, and doesn't stink up the house as much as conventional pot smoke. The ol lady on the other hand is unimpressed. She says dabs don't last as long as smoking and using the torch makes her feel like a crackhead ...sheesh! I disagree but need to accommodate her wishes in order to maintain our happy marriage...at least until I turn her into an oil freak like me.

Anyway my original interest in concentrates was spurred by the desire to find a way to conserve enough bud to last until the next harvest. I only grow for my ol lady, myself, and to share with select friends/family so I tend to do everything on a small scale. I finally got some good material and started making bubble hash which blew my mind. For years up until that point I had been puffing on lo grade commercial shitbud and quickly got spoiled on Dutch genetics. Some of the more enlightened members of RIU motivated me to try making qwiso and was off to the races. I am interested in trying BHO at some point when I aquire suitable space, safety equipment..and more material to run which brings me to my question(s)..

Dabbing takes some practice trial & error as does playing around with methods of making honey oil/shatter. I wasted much oil in the beginning but now realize ways to make it stretch. Seems like sometimes I dab right through it so fast I'm always making more. So far I have liquified over 2oz of premium bud into oil. I am trying to make my remaining stash (maybe another 2oz & 3/4) last until flower stage of current grow is complete (60 dayz or so). The question I pose to experienced oil enthusiasts and RIU contributors is:
Do you think you consume more or less quantity of cannabis by dabbing it? If you had to make 2 oz of bud last you 10 weeks would you make some or all into oil or would you leave it as bud & tough it out after you ran out of dabs?
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Dabz ate great and all but they will fuck ur tolerance...I can smoke like a gram joint and barely feel anything and when I trun an.oz of bud to wax it last a week usually



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midnitetoak

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GreyLord said:
Midnite, don't know if you've read many of my posts, but I'm a newbie hash-maker. My 1st batch was made from really old & dry leaf which yielded about 3-4grams of oil from 40gs, if memory serves. It was described as "too strong" by a friend [nonsense haha]. Idk how much stronger oil from A1 bud is compared to oil from leaf & crap but mine sure wipes me out [bit of a light-weight atm.] I sleep the sleep of the dead after a puff :)

When I start to use my small bud to spray, I'll definitely be running it no more than 50/50 with trim & leaf. I'm so glad my 1st run was with old leaf, it was just an experiment & was delighted to find the hash recovered was quite acceptable. Nothing from my grow will be wasted. So don't chuck out your leaf & trim, mix it with your bud to pass butane through & your oil wont be as expensive. I don't know how many of the really good hash makers here who include leaf & trim with their bud. I haven't gone past the heat purge stage so Idk if leaf affects consistency of the oil or not in the end product. [if your dabbing I don't think consistency would matter, would it?]

I've been asking similar questions. Tolerance is a bitch & abstinence is the only cure. I love bud & I love hash. I'd hate to get to the point where a cone of good bud doesn't do it for me, or a nice jay for that matter.
I use pot for nerve pain & to sleep. [What I didn't realise for most of the 12 years I've endured pain, is that a small puff everyday cuts the intensity & frequency of my pain by at least 80%. Nice :)]
For me hash is special. It's like a secret pleasure like vintage French champagne or truffles. If you had both at every meal it'd become so familiar it'd no longer be special. AND my medical consideration must take precedence over my enjoyment. If my bud is my paracetamol, for example, then hash is my codeine [more like opium hahaha] to be used as a last line of defense.

Excellent bud [that I grew off course, haha] is my everyday smoke, & hash is my every other night smoke or when I need it.
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I like your analogy allow me to expand on it: I consider bud to be like the draft beer of cannibis products whereas honey oil is like a whiskey because it can be either homemade moonshine or like a very fine scotch. Hashish is like champagne or cordial- only for those special occasions...like a Star Wars marathon or something. I do wish I had caught the concentrate bus much earlier in my grow but everything must be learned in due time. I realize now how much good trims I wasted running bubble hash when I probably could've gotten a much bigger yield making it into oil. Oh well hindsight is 20/20 and I know better what to do for next harvest. I can still burn a fatass J and it works but there's no doubt oil jacks up the tolerance.
I think dabbing in moderation is best but it's harder to resist the temptation when you don't have to. In other words like Qwizo was saying he dabs a qp a week because there's "no ceiling" but if you only had x amount you would figure a way to make it last or consider other opt. I medicate because I like it & believe it helps lower my stress/hypertension but I could tough it out if I have to. One thing is for sure I will not pay for a bag of weed ever again. If I run out of everything before next harvest I will just have to become an alcoholic for a few weeks fuck it. I got several grams of lo grade black hash that I can make into edibles to stave off going to my stash but I prefer to inhale over ingestion. I think you are right...all ya really need is a few puffs to alleviate pain and/ or anxiety but it takes willpower not to throw down on another huge dab or pack that bong once more even if you don't really "need" it. If a little is good than more has to be better right? Unless you are trying to make it last of course.
 
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Dannoo93 said:
Dabz ate great and all but they will fuck ur tolerance...I can smoke like a gram joint and barely feel anything and when I trun an.oz of bud to wax it last a week usually



Dannoo93
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yup I was trying to sell the ol lady on the idea that oil will outlast the same quantity of bud but she proved me wrong. Shes been smoking on about 7g I put in a jar last Monday (almost 2 weeks ago)...still a nice nug left for later. I qwiso-ed about the same amount and scraped it early Tuesday of this week & it's almost gone already. Then again I'm a heavyweight and do big dabs...takes dynamite to get me high
 
midnitetoak

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Twitch. said:
oil is better for me or ill smoke all day
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I find with dabs I spend less time trying to get high & more time enjoying it. I used to spend 20 mins in the morning loading up the bong once or twice & smoking. Now I spend like 3 min doing a couple dabs & I'm out...only now I spend more time trying to remember where my keys are and/or why I had to leave in the first place
 
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