does bud ignitor cut down the stretch in flower?

tree king

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ive been trying to get answers on this question but havent got any responses. im trying to cut down the stretch on this clone i got
 

chipmunkproof

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As far as i know the only thing that will keep stretch down nutrient or additive wise is PGR products such as Bushmaster. There is a product called the hammer by Plant Life that supposedly does it naturally, but it most likely is a pgr. This comes at no surprise though as PGR stands for Plant Growth Regulator and that’s what you are trying to accomplish. Bud ignitor is not a PGR i don’t think and thus I don’t believe it would substantially shorten internode length.
 

tree king

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As far as i know the only thing that will keep stretch down nutrient or additive wise is PGR products such as Bushmaster. There is a product called the hammer by Plant Life that supposedly does it naturally, but it most likely is a pgr. This comes at no surprise though as PGR stands for Plant Growth Regulator and that’s what you are trying to accomplish. Bud ignitor is not a PGR i don’t think and thus I don’t believe it would substantially shorten internode length.
it sounds like you havent used it before. thanks for your imput but id like to hear from someone who's used it. its supposed to shorten the flower cycle plus AN customer service says theres something in it that lowers the stretch. its understandable though that if it shortens flowering it could cut down the stretch
 

Izoc666

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Surprised, no one have exprienced with bud ignitor to share...maybe youtube that some people would use bud ignitor as their program...maybe try to check it out in there ?
 

kbo ca

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I have tested it myself, I got a free sample of it from my hydro shop. Every product i get takes a whole grow to test because you can only change one thing at a time to really see if there is some kind of benefit. Sadly There were no differences in either test group. This product did nothing for my garden. I am a fan of some AN products and not a hater of any particular line. So Honestly I would say not to invest in this product.
 

Izoc666

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I have tested it myself, I got a free sample of it from my hydro shop. Every product i get takes a whole grow to test because you can only change one thing at a time to really see if there is some kind of benefit. Sadly There were no differences in either test group. This product did nothing for my garden. I am a fan of some AN products and not a hater of any particular line. So Honestly I would say not to invest in this product.
Cool...if you dont mind to tell me whats good products from AN that you really like it in your nutrient program ? thanks.

happy gardening and peace.
 

tree king

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thanks for posting kbo. could you please tell us at what rate you used it at in hydro? i was told it doesnt work unless you use it at full strength
 

patrickkawi37

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ive used it and i believe i notice a difference. i dont know if it stops the stretch alot..but it definitely gives you more budsites and gives them to you sooner, and i guess budding sooner would cause your plants not to stretch as hard.. as far as shortening the flowering cycle.. that i dont buy.
 

tree king

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ive used it and i believe i notice a difference. i dont know if it stops the stretch alot..but it definitely gives you more budsites and gives them to you sooner, and i guess budding sooner would cause your plants not to stretch as hard.. as far as shortening the flowering cycle.. that i dont buy.
i wish i could find this fuckin thread! there was a thread on icmag where someone did a side by side test and i could of swore the bi crop finished sooner and was shorter. it was a vertical grow i wish i could locate it. thanks for commenting patrick more budsites alone is a great reason to keep using it if it kept plants shorter than that would just be a plus. sounds like your not really sure if they were shorter
 

kbo ca

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i don't believe any nutrient is going to give you more "budsites" or shoots as they are also referred to. The only way i know of to get a larger canopy with many tops and "budsites" is to top the plant many times in veg. I used bud ignitor as directed. All AN additives are 2ml per liter. The products that work for me from AN are Connoiseur part A & B. I tested a sample of it on a few test plants and the result was easily visible overnight. The amount of weight those plants packed on was unbelievable. I personally like to cultivate organically, but i don't mind trying a product out to see if i can impress myself. Voodoo juice is crazy aswell for the roots, but way too expensive, and i get similar results using Roots oregonism in a beni brew i like to give em. Other than that i only buy their PH up and Down because it lasts forever. Respect
 

kbo ca

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ive used it and i believe i notice a difference. i dont know if it stops the stretch alot..but it definitely gives you more budsites and gives them to you sooner, and i guess budding sooner would cause your plants not to stretch as hard.. as far as shortening the flowering cycle.. that i dont buy.
all of your budsites are developed in the vegetative stage, Bud ignitor is only used in flower. How does it give you more budsites sooner?
 

tree king

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i don't believe any nutrient is going to give you more "budsites" or shoots as they are also referred to. The only way i know of to get a larger canopy with many tops and "budsites" is to top the plant many times in veg. I used bud ignitor as directed. All AN additives are 2ml per liter. The products that work for me from AN are Connoiseur part A & B. I tested a sample of it on a few test plants and the result was easily visible overnight. The amount of weight those plants packed on was unbelievable. I personally like to cultivate organically, but i don't mind trying a product out to see if i can impress myself. Voodoo juice is crazy aswell for the roots, but way too expensive, and i get similar results using Roots oregonism in a beni brew i like to give em. Other than that i only buy their PH up and Down because it lasts forever. Respect
so kbo have you used the sensi 2 part before? thats good to know conni is great im wondering how it compares to the sensi

have you used the ph perfect?
 

kbo ca

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so kbo have you used the sensi 2 part before? thats good to know conni is great im wondering how it compares to the sensi

have you used the ph perfect?
yeah i used Sensi ab before the connie but it doesn't even come close to what the connie does to your plants. You just have to be careful not to over feed man this stuff will burn the hell out of your plants if you get over zealous with it.
 

tree king

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yeah i used Sensi ab before the connie but it doesn't even come close to what the connie does to your plants. You just have to be careful not to over feed man this stuff will burn the hell out of your plants if you get over zealous with it.
have you used ph perfect conni? what ec do you run the conni at in flower and how big are the plants at that time?
 

spencer2121

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Nice to see that someone else who has used Connie say the same things! I too bought the a&b, mixed it at 800 ppm and went on vacation for 2 days. Came back and fuck! It transformed my garden! I'm now using some additives but I'm not really sure I like them as much, bid candy, big bud, b52, overdrive, rhino skin. Since I'm using them all together I'm not sure which one is burning the plants but I've since cut back a bit on the additives
 

kbo ca

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Nice to see that someone else who has used Connie say the same things! I too bought the a&b, mixed it at 800 ppm and went on vacation for 2 days. Came back and fuck! It transformed my garden! I'm now using some additives but I'm not really sure I like them as much, bid candy, big bud, b52, overdrive, rhino skin. Since I'm using them all together I'm not sure which one is burning the plants but I've since cut back a bit on the additives
the only way to see if those products really do anything is to introduce them one at time. meaning one product per grow and observe.
 

kbo ca

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have you used ph perfect conni? what ec do you run the conni at in flower and how big are the plants at that time?
didn't use the ph perfect i like to adjust my own ph to different levels at different times. And to tell you the truth i don't even worry about ec. I just start with clean RO water add my nutrients and ph accordingly. I ran the connie at 1200 ppm at its strongest.
 

spencer2121

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The Connie by itself is amazing. I spoke to the guy at the hydro shop n he uses it when he flushes and said he loves it. He uses ph perfect. I use tap and my ph comes out to 5.8 every time when I follow the schedule
 

Siddhartha2

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Bud Ignitor is great stuff. I have been using it for 3 years. It does have PGR in it. But it is much safer than bushmaster. It is well worth the outrageous price.
Sidd
 
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